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post Oct 2 2015, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 2 2015, 06:40 PM)
LOL!!!!

Yeah..... see this stock can teach many a lessons of a lifetime. biggrin.gif
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The $60 coincide with the dot-com craze.. wonder who bought at that amount.. rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 2 2015, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 2 2015, 06:41 PM)
He can IMPAIR the losses ??? tongue.gif
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Impair he has no choice.. but sell at loss means he will admit he made a mistake.. his ego wont allow it... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 10:11 AM

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With US average PE at 20.5 and US$ at multi year high.. I was thinking that the US market has reached saturation.. so might wanna dispose of all my SPY ETFs.. which I have collected from the past 7 years tongue.gif

Anyone wanna look into chart and tell me? tongue.gif

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post Oct 3 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 3 2015, 10:30 AM)
Feel like wanna bang something...so bang Mr Quek lor blush.gif
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emmm banks are not the best investment right now... sweat.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 3 2015, 10:37 AM)
At the moment my smallest holding...still got plenty of room to dollar cost/value average wink.gif
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REITs are not the best investment right now too... sweat.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 3 2015, 10:44 AM)
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Follow ah Boon hints.. he posted lots what.. laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 3 2015, 10:51 AM)
U mean those buggers oops I mean baggers  tongue.gif
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Buggers are good.. hehehehe rclxms.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 3 2015, 05:48 PM)
The rational for this is due to the current uncertainty in Malaysia affairs and banking stocks are usually among the first to dip when there is a recession or major correction, right?

Or are there other factors to considered as well?
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Nope.. tightening of loans, GST, high USD, stagnant property and poorer economy.. this leads to less consumption overall..

Banks gains most of their profit from loan, less consumption = less loan =...? icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 3 2015, 06:20 PM)
Ohhhhmyyyyyyyyyyyygoooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrdddddd!!!!

Why you so hardworking one laaaa!!!!

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psssst: I only click here click there only some random charts....
don't simply assume yaaa...

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psssst: I also believe in LESS is MORE.
Kiddddddaaaaauuuup man!
You need to learn now how to trade.

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Look at No 1 on the list... 5 bagger.. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Woo Ah boon can bring his lorry load of shares cash to the bank liao.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Oct 3 2015, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 3 2015, 06:34 PM)
My company just launched a condo, cheapest also 800K...

Within 1 week of launch, 30% already booked hmm.gif
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When i bought my last property in 2006, i have to pay someone to queue overnight and almost all prime lots sold out on launch day.. whistling.gif

So now not so hot.... wink.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 3 2015, 07:27 PM)
TTB, Boon3 and Gark's all time favorite stock  biggrin.gif

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Lol, never own that junk before...

TTB however... brows.gif
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post Oct 3 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Oct 3 2015, 09:34 PM)
Revised my fair value calculated above. If CPO hovers around RM2.4k next year, net profit would be close to 240m USD in FY12,
which was EPS 16 USD cents * 1.2 = 19 SGD cents. Assuming PE11, value in FY12 should have been $2.10
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But... same revenue doesnt mean same amount of goods sold.

A better comparison will be average profit generated per ton cpo in 2012 and then extrapolate to amount expected to be produced in 2016. wink.gif

For me a conservative FV is around $2.30 to $2.40 laugh.gif

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post Oct 4 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Oct 4 2015, 11:43 AM)
There is an interesting write-up on GLCs in Focus Malaysia print edition for period 3 to 9 October 2015. Some of the concerns like what we discussed on the banks are in there. There is also another write-up on MReits. Go buy n read.
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If you got buy... scan n post here lah.. wink.gif
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post Oct 4 2015, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 4 2015, 03:23 PM)
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Why don't you go buy a copy? tongue.gif
pssst: I no read those papers before. LOL!
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Not to say dun wan buy... but indon no sell leh.. doh.gif
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post Oct 5 2015, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 4 2015, 09:00 PM)


pssst.... if you are an investor.... averaging down...
I know...
common saying is...
you are getting the same good thing but cheaper...
so you buy more ... ie you average down...
the risk?
such thinking leads to mistakes....
why?
sometimes... you invest the stock...
the price goes down.....
what IF...
what if... the main reason why the price goes down.... is invested wrongly?
ie... you could either pay too much for your initial investment...
or... you simply made a wrong judgement call on the investment...
either way...
when you average down....
you are simply buying more of your initial mistake.... wink.gif
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Ah Boon shooting me already leh.. cry.gif
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post Oct 5 2015, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Oct 4 2015, 09:30 PM)
hi abg gark,

was looking at armada, hope you can give some comments:

1. Ignoring the one off impairment and gain from disposal, 1H15 net profit is abt 122m; hence for FY15 will be 244m if annualised
2. 90% of profit is from FPSO, but OSV and T&I segments seems to be starting to make losses in 2Q15
3. Based on the size of the 3 FPSO in-progress, their contribution would be about 75% - 100% of the existing fleet
3. FY17 net profit = 244* 2 = 488m = 8.4 cents EPS
4. Assuming PE10, Fair value is only RM0.84?
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1. The OSV and T&I income is going to get worse .. so expect to record more losses in rest of 2015 due to less OnG contracts. More and more vessles are going to be cold and warm stacked.

2. The existing FPSO is based on long term contract, so the payment is secure. If any company cancels the contract they have to pay up 100%. Only problem will be the company going into receivership. Just like Afren Nigeria for FPSO Perkasa, the company is in financial trouble, but the well and FPSO is up for auction, new taker will continue the contract. Based on Armada, they payment from Afren is still current. sweat.gif

3. 3 new projects will bring in future growth, they are secured at very good rates during price of oil at $100. There might be a long time before they get another one. nod.gif

4. FV is highly dependent on OSV and T&I recovering means we need good oil price, we should see substantial vessel utilization rate (current 53%) increase significantly If oil is over $60 per barrel. I would say RM 1 is fair value for $50 oil and RM 1.30 for $60 oil.. and so on.. wink.gif

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post Oct 5 2015, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 5 2015, 09:53 AM)
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Early morning so emo?

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Anyway.. good advice.. will TRY to follow more often.. rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 5 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Oct 5 2015, 10:08 AM)
Don't say until like this mah......

Me only talk wind la....

and you know...

I cannot do a lot of stuff that you do one. smile.gif
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Well I admit what you say is true mah.. tongue.gif

But then hor .. hand itchy when see falling knife.. brows.gif
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post Oct 5 2015, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(cooldownguy86 @ Oct 5 2015, 10:40 AM)
Thanks for the inputs abg gark! I read that oil production will only slowing down next year by 200k barrels a day? Maybe 60dollars is more realistic in 2017
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That is subject to a LOT of speculation... If SA just reduce 10% of their production tomorrow.. you may get the $60 oil immediately.. whistling.gif

Good article for global oil production and consumption.. contrary to everyones thoughts, global oil consumption has not reduced significantly, it is still growing at a healthy rate, it is just that SA is pumping at records levels to depress the oil price.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/3547996-oi...e-are-we-headed

Ghawar field, SA largest production field is currently under secondary recovery, and if they continue to pump at record rates by opening the choke at full, they risk damaging the oil well forever and irreversible. There are indications there are water cuts already approaching near maximum in their production and these cuts if not reduce will destroy the field. It is estimated that at most SA can maintain their high production for only 1 year more, before they have to close the choke. Water cuts can be reduce if the fields are put to 'rest' or minimum production.

Counter argument is that a lot of US fields are now rated as DUC wells (Drilled and uncompleted wells - drilled during good times) which can raise production to flood the market if the price of oil is good. It is estimated only need 1-2 months to bring these DUC up to production.

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post Oct 5 2015, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Oct 5 2015, 10:57 AM)
We could potentially look at even higher oil production considering Indonesia will be including in OPEC.

Hold cash and buy SKP and put in freezer for 5 years at least.
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Read the attached article, Indonesia is NET importer petroleum products.

Also the government is trying to do "nationalization" of foreign oil production facilities..which has destroyed a LOT of confidence. Almost 100% work stop for exploration now.

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