I'm a terminator fan, watched all the movies and TV series (sarah).

It was hard for me to open my eyes at the beginning stage (after the heli crash)...blame it on watching too much terminator stuff previous night. Mid way, story picked up and end of it....nothing to shout abt. (except for the action scenes which was very good...up to todays standards).
-Tense and suspense scenes were missing...it was never like T1 where you are sitting edge of the seat, maybe there was too much of it in T4 or not executed well by the director.
-Void of humor (yes, it does matter even with a Terminator movie, T2 was great, even T3 had some humor). Now I can understand why some critics mention it.
-Infiltration to skynet was way too easy...I was thinking of nothing less than ninja skills or superman to break into skynet alone, even with Marcus help.
-Another problem is it started and ended in 2018......even in 2029, humans were having a hard time with skynet...so 2018 is just a passing year...so when are we humans gonna win the war....T5, T6 or T7?
-Thing is...why did he has to save Kyle Reese?...yes, I know its mention in T1, but think of it....John Connor is alive right?...even with his dad getting killed, he will still be alive.....how many 'worlds' are there bro?....suppose someones dad gets killed by an accident means that the child is not born?...but the child now is already been born and kicking butts. i remembered in 2029, John in still alive (but older with the scar face) fighting a war.

End of the day, after rewinding back T1,2 and 3...plus all of that sarah chronicles, come to my senses abt the whole Terminator Story and the fall of it in T4...hope they wont mess it up in T5.

I personally give it a 6/10! sorry fanz....6 because the action was good, and they didn't forget Arnie....or else its a 4/10.
I would have given an 8 if it was not rated U, with more F words, more gore, more epic battle, more hope of the survival of mankind, and i wanna clap my hands or cry in the end of the show....sadly all this was missing.

T1 and T2 left so much impact because;
1. That time you just around 10 years old?
2. No other hoo haaa woahhh movie that time?

Now T4 looks like ordinary movie because
1. You much matured to accept all things till some say need some logical here and there,eventhough everything is illogical at all.
2. Too much CGI movies nowadays,till all sunken down by transformers, made terminator looks another action movie.

To watch this movie (T4) i think one need to understand the timeline of T1,T2,T3,TSCC,Tnovels, and understand the concept of different future that my mom warned me about. And need to lower down your level of maturity abit i think
I love this movie. Enjoiced watching it. All the actors had done their job well, connor aka Bale really brings out the 'tension' as he grown up as JC and can feels his feelings and fear and how much he wanna end wars and revenge to the Skynet. The effects are just too awesome and unthinkable and gives alot of suprises. Overall, 10/10

T1 still has the most authentic 'terminator' atmosphere to it, is what I think. It is the only one which truly makes you frightened about what machines can do, what the future holds. It is dark and moody, and filled with suspense and dread, with a terrific closing scene and shot. Plus there is the whole time travel paradox, the damn thing you just cant seem to wrap you head around.

T2 sacrifices the suspense and atmosphere, but makes up for it with its mindblowing action scenes. It doesnt want you to be scared. It wants you to stand in awe of it. And we definitely do that.

T3 is pretty much a retread of T2, with more action and CGI. If you ask me, a bit too much action (that trail of destruction in the first chase was just... wow), and CGI which is inferior to the second. The action is fine, but never in the same league as T2. The T-800 vs T-1000 hand-to-hand fight just blows the T-800 vs T-X fight out of the water. Not to mention the T-X is easily the weakest terminator in terms of presence in the series.

Maybe something like Dark Knight rather than Batman n Robin?

Maybe i was wrong, maybe i was right. That time no internet, today so much different. I was mentioning bout physcology of the movie. That time how old was you?and how many gore movies had u watched?

Bout the infrared laser sight, what i can say is the older model doesnt have accuracy to shoot. Just to destroy. Its 10 years earlier to T800 self aware?

Yeah, T loves to throw ppl around here n there. Why dont they just snap their neck or crush ppl with giant robot?

Mini scale military base maybe had been corrupted by marcus, and marcus helps alot to destroy t600 and T1 and so on so on. Remember air support coming also?

Moar discussions! I also had alot to clear out myself too. But if thinks too logically, jew just lost the fun and imaginations of it. 

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Added on May 29, 2009, 9:54 pmBtw, i agrees with 'T3 is pretty much a retread of T2'

Batman needed to be reinvented to be commercially viable, after what happened with Batman and Robin. The Terminator films were just fine as they are, yes even T3.