I dont quite agree the fault is all at fresh grad side
i've had an internship with a MNC company. most of the old folks in there (high position dudes) arent from IT background, so the know less to shit bout IT stuff.
they think IT department(helpdesk) have the easiest job in company, n hire so few ppl in that particular department
n they pressure us on crazy deadlines.. pay peanuts ask for gold
n they mostly dont give chances to freshie, coz they wanna have minimal employee with max output.. so chances for freshie to learn with these kind of employer is small.

but thanx to latest technologies n younger generation in high rank positions, these kind of problem may lessen by time..
btw, n working in IT isnt juz about install n troubleshooting PC's. so no matter how good u are at uni, u'll still have lots to learn


This post has been edited by e-jump: Nov 1 2006, 12:22 PM

nah, im juz pointing out that apart from freshies lack of experience, employer is also a major factor for lots of unemployed fresh grad these days.

im jobless.. LOL
nah, i juz graduated month ago (sept)..
im from EE background btw.
n still undecided to persue career under EE or IT
(been applying EE related jobs so far)

why u asked?

actually employer do appreciate the IT devision, but only when they can see the result, ie improved network traffic etc coz they can feel it fast, etc
but they never never appreciate on how we constantly monitor, think for solution etc, with are consuming brain-cells n time, n whats-more propose to upgrade hardware (pay peanuts, want king class facility kind of mentality =__= )

*talking from network engineering POV

I dont think spoon-feeding students is the way to make em independent in real career world. Thats why universities introduce industrial/practical-training to expose student to the real world.
Nevertheless it seems this kind of programme have yet to fully be informative to students as some of the company didnt expose them to real career world but prepare em for training (training here means everyday day they have specific schedule in reading/learning/visiting). I'm lucky back in my days during practical training, a was assigned as a normal employee, and do what other ppl in my department do.

This post has been edited by e-jump: Nov 2 2006, 02:54 PM

Does ppl from EE background really have no chance to compete with IT graduates in job offers related to system/network etc?
I know the certs like ccna etc exist to certified the knowledge, but do employer really thing its compulsory to have one rather than to accept maybe a promising EE candidate without one, n maybe send him for training/test later on?

*looking in the perspective of jr.engineer/technician positions,

This post has been edited by e-jump: Nov 16 2006, 07:37 PM