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post Jun 15 2015, 08:05 AM, updated 7y ago

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The newer Strata Act 757 is gazetted, which taking act.

Obvious change from the old act.

1. Developer need to sub-divided the property, aka doing the strata title when handle the key time/vacant possession.

2. Management corporation( or most peope knew as JMB, (JMB is for property that before issuing of strata title)), Chairman only can hold term for 2 consecutive years, committee member 3 consecutive years.

3. Setting up Strata Management Tribunal to handle the strata title property issues.

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post Jun 15 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jun 15 2015, 08:26 AM)
Hi Cherroy, isn't Act 757 the Strata Management Act 2013?  The Strata Titles (Amendment) Act 2013 is Act A1450, right?
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If not mistaken, A1450 made some amendment on it.

Never mind, shall we call it Act 2013 or Act 757?

I think it is referring to the same act.
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post Jun 15 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(akunyet @ Jun 15 2015, 02:30 PM)
news for me. my house do not hv strata title even for 15 yrs cf. company bnkrupt ady.
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This is one of major problem of current strata property, the new law that to ensure developer to do the strata title division is long over due.

Without strata title, you cannot transfer the property aka cannot complete the SPA of the property.
All sort of headache and problem without the strata title.

It is like owning an asset without any document to show you are the owner of asset.


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post Jun 15 2015, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(phengeon @ Jun 15 2015, 02:37 PM)
I'm in dis situation too.. keen to know how dis act may help..
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This act won't able to help the old owner, or previous property, but good or newer strata property buyer.
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post Jun 15 2015, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(travis8481 @ Jun 15 2015, 04:46 PM)
Ur item 3 above seems like to resolve all the matters pertaining to strata title issue
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Tribunal is set up to tackle troublesome issues on building management related, like dealing with maintenance fee defaulter, by law, AGM/EGM dispute related matter, etc. that related to building management.


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post Jun 15 2015, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jun 15 2015, 04:45 PM)
That's why I said Act757 should be the Strata Management Act.  There is another one being Strata Titles (Amendment) Act (Act A1450).
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Yup, you are right.
Should refer as Act 757.


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post Jun 15 2015, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Jun 15 2015, 06:31 PM)
Not really, nowadays landed property also in strata title, for example symphony hills cyberjaya, link house under UEM
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Yup, most newer G&G landed are strata title one.
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post Jun 16 2015, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(adamw @ Jun 15 2015, 11:13 PM)
So if my condo's developer has closed shop, all the owners will have to appoint a land surveyor to work with the Liquidator to apply for the strata title? Just went to a meeting yesterday and they say must collect rm260k first in order to proceed!
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It is very complicated matter.

The issue is to get the land title and subdivided into strata title.

The land title is in the name of developer name, so developer is the one can sign off the division of the title.
While if developer already closed shop, then nobody can sign off the division.

That's why it is important to get the strata title once it is out.
I had seen many owner want to save stamp duty and lawyer fee, which they had no urgency to appoint lawyer to do the strata title, which is beyond my understanding.
By doing so, one is risking one day developer company being dissolved, that owner may be caught in no mans' land, as you cannot complete the sale of the property without the title.

Not to mention without strata title, you have no voting right in Management Corporation which determine the course of building management.

Another scenario identical to such issue, is you buy a property joint name with a friend, girl/boy friend or even husband/wife, now the other party MIA, died or whatever, you cannot sell the property without the other party signature, until the other party belonging issue/estate is fully properly distributed
While after estate distribution, you may have lot of complication as the 50% may belonged to several people based on estate law.
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post Jun 18 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jun 18 2015, 01:54 PM)
Now a days landed also come with strata
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Majority of G&G properties and particularly come with common facilities, like swimming pool etc are stratified property nowadays.

As to take care of common properties, facilities like swimming pool, play ground etc, you need strata management act to govern it, so that every owner contribute to maintenance fund.

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post Jun 18 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Jun 18 2015, 02:49 PM)
The contribution of of maintenance fund is via DMC, right?
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DMC is needed because last time when property being VP time, the property has no strata title yet, so DMC is the agreement that developer can ensure unit owner to pay the maintenance fee.

Once the strata title is out and Management Corporation is formed, then we have Strata Management act to govern that unit owner must pay their respective maintenance fee.

The need of contribution of maintenance fund is stated clearly in the Strata Management act.

So if future property being delivered with strata title in place, may be DMC is not needed, all follow the Strata Management act straight away. I am not lawyer, correct me if I am wrong.

Edited for typo.

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post Jun 19 2015, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Jun 19 2015, 09:20 AM)
are these new rules just commence or already applied since 2013?
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It only gazetted this month, so only effective when it is gazetted.
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post Jun 19 2015, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(ZackQ @ Jun 19 2015, 11:14 AM)
Wish to ask tai kors here whether this Strata Act 757 mention anything on the accessory parcel such as car park, that also require to pay maintenance fee?
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Yes.

Maintenance fee will be based on "Share Unit' instead of square feet of the unit itself.

So the more car park the unit has, the more share unit.

While maintenance fee will be divided based on share unit.
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post Jun 19 2015, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(ZackQ @ Jun 19 2015, 11:25 AM)
Many thanks!
Saw this in the Act but don't know how to calculate  rclxub.gif
Btw, maintenance fee including accessory parcels has been fully enforced OR will be fully enforce in upcoming VP projects?
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I don't think it has been fully enforced before, as we still see many still based on sqft of the size of the unit only.

With the new act, it should be fully enforced across Stratified properties across.
But I expect many still do not aware on this issue.

I still in the midst of finding out how to calculate. laugh.gif
So far what I gathered and knew is, the number of share unit of your property (including accessories parcel) does state clearly in your strata title.
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It won't be too much difference, unless your unit has plenty of accessories parcel, like 6 car park vs ordinary unit 1 or 2.
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post Jun 28 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jun 28 2015, 08:43 PM)
so, my condo which already have strata titles, can impose additional maintenance fee using existing rate for parking lot wef 1 June?
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It is not about impose additional or not, but the calculation method is different as compared previous just using sqft of the unit without taking in car park and accessories parcel.

The calculation if unit share does include parking lot and accessories parcel (like locker room in gym room etc) based on unit share as stated in the strata title.

So if one has more car park than other unit, then expect to see addition maintenance charges as the unit share is more than others.



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post Jun 28 2015, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Hunter_Ho @ Jun 28 2015, 06:18 PM)
Thank for the reply.
Sorry again for misunderstood your reply just now.

Since we new to this act 757 and hopefully we are covered owner fund if there is any conflict of interest act or law to protecting owner.

Sorry the quote is here. Thank in advance.
For the access its about access card implemented with fee to renew the card and also forced to pay the admin fee, otherwise will deny any entry or even exit.

How can we refer to law or act to counter this?.
else i just stand outside of my apartment?
is there any law protection to enter my own premies?.

Thank you.

Maybe we need lawyer for this issue and i need to know which  law or act i can refer to.
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You still have the right to access into your own unit.

While the act give power to MC to impose rules and regulation through by law, that management has the right to impose fee on the access card and right to manage the common area.

Management cannot refuse you to have access card if you are owner, so the issue stopping owner to enter the premise is not exist to start with.

While if you refuse to pay the fee and no access card to enter the premise, then it is not management fault.

The right to impose fee is stated clearly.
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(2) The powers of the management corporation shall include the following:

(a) to recover from any parcel proprietor any sum expended by the management corporation in respect of that proprietor's parcel in complying with any such notices or orders as are referred to in paragraph (h) of subsection (1);


I do not see contradiction of the act on the issue.

If really not satisfy the fee imposed, call an EGM to overthrow the current management committee and elect yourself become chairman or committee member, then abolish the fee.

Btw, I am not lawyer, just based on experience involved in JMB/MC.

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QUOTE(Hunter_Ho @ Jun 28 2015, 06:18 PM)
Thank for the reply.
Sorry again for misunderstood your reply just now.

Since we new to this act 757 and hopefully we are covered owner fund if there is any conflict of interest act or law to protecting owner.
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disclosure  of  interest 9.  (1)  A  member  of  the  Committee  having  any  interest  in  any  matter  under discussion  by  the  Committee  shall  disclose  to  the  Committee  the  facts  of  his interest and its nature. (2)    A  disclosure  under  subparagraph  (1)  shall  be  recorded  in  the  minutes of  the  Committee  and,  after  the  disclosure,  the  member  having  an  interest  in the  matter  shall  not  take  part  nor  be  present  in  any  deliberation  or  decision of  the  Committee.

Sorry the quote is here. Thank in advance.
For the access its about access card implemented with fee to renew the card and also forced to pay the admin fee, otherwise will deny any entry or even exit.

How can we refer to law or act to counter this?.
else i just stand outside of my apartment?
is there any law protection to enter my own premies?.

Thank you.

Maybe we need lawyer for this issue and i need to know which law or act i can refer to.
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The disclosure issue quoted has nothing to do the issue raised in the access card mattter, it is about issue on committee making decision time during the meeting.
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post Jun 29 2015, 01:59 PM

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If not satisfy what the JMB or MC had done, the always solution is over-throw the current committee member and elect the new one.

An EGM needed to be called after receive 25% or 1/3 (I forgot which) of the owner signing, and draft the resolution to elect new committee member.

One cannot say not satisfy what the JMB/MC had done, then refuse to pay any charges related to the building management.

Any not satisfying issue, raise it collectively during AGM/EGM.
And please attend to elect yourself into the management, to avoid any potential mis-management (if).

The problem a lot of time arised, when majority of owner reluctant to take part in the AGM/EGM and volunteer themselves into management team.


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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jun 29 2015, 02:37 PM)
Most of the time, all this issue arise because of owners indifference towards their own property.

When I bought my property, 1 year after that there was talks of misappropriation of monies, mismanagement and cronyism etc… This only happen because ignorance of Act 663 (now superseded by Act 757) and no participation of owners during AGM/EGM or such other events held by the condominium.

The indifference is an opportunity for abuse, this allow the management to do whatever it pleases and by the time the wrong doing is discovered, the damage is done (example sinking fund depleted etc…)

As for whatever that is brought up by whoever,  I sincerely believe have been done so in good faith and I won’t look into the ulterior motives of the party.

It’s no use crying over spilt milk now, best to address the issue at hand and pay an expensive lesson at that.
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The new act does address the potential cronyism by limiting chairman term that cannot be more than 2 consecutive term and committee member 3 consecutive term.

There is a property I knew that nobody interested in joining JMB/MC, whereby the building management fail to elect enough committee member of min 3. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Jun 29 2015, 03:38 PM)
Very easy to get around the 1st hurdle, just become committeelor and switch back. Hahaha... Just switch around between cronies. As long as everyone is "yes" man life is LG.

The 2nd hurdle I like. Can appoint myself chairman and gm and pay myself a nice fat salary.

Wasted I work on voluntarily basis. sad.gif
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Ya previously also work voluntarily basis and plenty of time meeting until midnight as well.

In the history,
There is a case that owner's car being clamped due illegal parking at common area, being scolded and all dirty word thrown out at the committee member.
There is case that owner visitor being barred from entering as the security guard cannot find the owner to verify, dirty word also being thrown at...

But for the sake of the building management, and own property interest as a whole, our committee members still carry out their duty accordingly, even though some owner never appreciate it.
Now the building has good surplus management fund and sinking fund.

Actually I am not against Chairman or committee member being paid some earnest money, but ten K plus for such a post is overkill.
You hire a management company to manage a building only cost roughly 10K, which included a property manager being assigned, a clerk, and handyman to do those miscellaneous simple fixing.

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