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ry8128
post Jul 19 2020, 11:39 PM

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Guys, besides pana and daikin, any other reliable brands which are affordable?
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post Jul 21 2020, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 17 2020, 04:07 PM)
Buy all single brand for reference trouble shooting in the event of a fault.

Personally, I dont feel the different coldness between 1hp and 1.5hp.

For living hall, depending on layout, you can install 2 units 1hp at different location for faster cooling instead of one 2hp.

3 phase power supply ?
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If single phase power supply, is it good enough to run 3 air conditioning at the same time?
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post Jul 21 2020, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 21 2020, 10:38 PM)
Yes.

I run 2 units 1hp and 1 unit 2hp every night. Try not to on every unit at the same time.
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Wow, good to hear that. I forgot to get them to install 3 phase supply. Now the house already completed, and I feel it could be a hassle to install it. So plan to have single phase only.

BTW, for normal 1.0hp inverter air con (daikin and pana), the installation requirement is quite similar and simple right? Meaning I can purchase from online and get normal contractor to install it.
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post Jul 22 2020, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jul 22 2020, 01:49 PM)
Good enough, 3x 1.5hp only consume 18A load typically (for all three)

The biggest appliance apart from hob/built in oven will be your water heater.. one WH (3600W) already use 15.6A by itself

If its a new house likely to have single phase 63A incoming TNB.. more than enough

If its older place.. last time incomer only 40A so a lot of people use three phase (3x 40A = 120A) as aircon then no inverter (high inrush current when start from 0)
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post Jul 24 2020, 11:21 AM

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After survey and reading some reviews on brand, I decided to go for either Daikin or Panasonic.

Any recommendation for 1.0 inverter air cond from this 2 brands?
- most important must be 5 star energy consumption
- functions it not that needed. I am ok to go for basic unit, as long as its reliable.

Normally daikin will be cheaper compared to pana right?
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post Jul 29 2020, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(GuyB @ Jul 27 2020, 02:50 AM)
My landlord in apartment refused to install aircon in the living room which gets very hot due to facing setting sun. But has no objections if I'm to install it. Yeah he thinks I'll just leave It when I leave.

To not give him the pleasure, what 1.5HP aircon is easy to install and uninstall later on? I'm thinking of puttingbthe compressor on the balcony since its not used anyway..
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Better to make clear to him that u will be taking it with u when u leave, to avoid unnecessary conflict.
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post Aug 14 2021, 02:12 PM

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Guys, any feedback on sharp aircond? Looking for a cheap non-inverter unit. Most important for me is less maintenance and reliable.

Currently looking at model aha9xcd - https://my.sharp/products/air-care/10hp-r32...-aha9xcd?v=1448
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post Aug 17 2021, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 16 2021, 05:50 PM)
Got few Sharp at my partner's house..their AC use about ten yrs plus no problem with the AC. Only now start dripping water coz the drain pipe clogged, but AC still operate fine. The product OK wan, just the installer route is questionable, make drain pipe as vertical as possible and horizontal need slope (dont make too flat, water ponding = grow algae = jelly clog up)
Nice to haves but if old one nothing wrong no need to change IMO.
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Thanks, sounds good the sharp brand.
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post Sep 5 2021, 09:34 PM

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Guys, for 1.0 non inverter air cond, between pana and daikin, which is recommended if the price is the same? I am being offered the same price for this 2 brands, so wondering which to take.
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QUOTE(Cigar @ Sep 5 2021, 08:30 PM)
Anyone extends warranty for air cond? Am going to install Daikin inverter series in condo, is it worthy to extend another 3 years (RM205 for 1.0HP; RM219 for 1.5HP) as advised by salesperson? According to him, Daikin has 35% of becoming faulty zzz.
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Any reason u still go for daikin even when it is 35% faulty rate? What about the rate of other brands?
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post Sep 6 2021, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 5 2021, 10:17 PM)
Generally, better known brands will less likely to fail and that is one reason why it cost more than lesser known brands unless one is unlucky to receive a lemon unit.

Extended warranty by retailers are normally insurance based coverage and all claims are subject to waiting period pending approval similar to a vehicle claim.

If you are looking for extended warranty  I suggest you buy a brand that is directly provided by the manufacturer. If at all there is a fault, repairs or replacement will be provided with no questions.

Is not feasible to buy extended warranty for a product which is of low value where repair cost is 30 to 50% of a new set.
I have been using Pana non invertor for many many years and have a total of 15 units. Is a good choice for me. No major issues other than 1 lemon unit received.
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QUOTE(GuyM @ Sep 6 2021, 12:27 AM)
I've never bought extended warranty especially with Sharp brand
Then you'll probably choose which one has higher efficiency thus saving you some $$ long run
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Thanks guys for the feedback.

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 6 2021, 12:46 AM)
Nope. More like upselling because that 200 sth can replace almost everything in terms of parts..except compressor which usually warranted for 5/7/10 yrs..
If you gonna use it frequently ie everyday, a NON is cheaper by 2 or 3 hundred but the increase in TNB bill at 0.518 per unit gonna add up prettt fast that it makes more sense to get inverter.
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Thanks for the feedback. If in term of reliability, will a inverter or a non inverter will last longer in the long run?
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post Sep 6 2021, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Sep 6 2021, 08:41 AM)
Reliability of any appliances mainly depends on the user.

For my current place, the non invertor ACs are used daily and 80% are more than 10 years.

Temperature are set between 23 to 25 depending on weather. Filters are cleaned every 3 months. General diy cleaning yearly and major every 2 years.

Finally, you need the correct hp, otherwise, the best brand or tech will also fail.
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Ya, totally understand it. What i mean is assuming all other factors are constant, wondering which is more reliable. By right should be non inverter right since it has less parts and is a old tech.
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post Sep 6 2021, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 6 2021, 02:42 PM)
Generally a NON's compressor will be harsher use than an INV and thus the wty period of compressor motor also reflect that  Assuming no hardware failure, the usual cause of AC failure after ten plus yrs would be the electronics failing due to capacitor leak or aging (old age electronic failure)
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Hmm, icic. Thanks for the valuable input.

 

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