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post Oct 9 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 8 2015, 01:47 PM)
Thanks for the suggestion, but my room already installed 1HP, that is why I am thinking to upgrade to 1.5 or 2HP.

Many ppl told me that bigger HP can save more for big room, but no one can really tell me why, most of them also heard from 'someone'.  So i just wish to understand directly from someone. That maybe test out before. smile.gif

Thanks again.
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Bigger HP can save more for big room because it will cool down the room faster compared to smaller HP which might not cool down the room to the required temp at all resulting the smaller HP to run in full load all the time.
Once the required temp is achieved, the load will be lower.

QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 8 2015, 02:00 PM)
I respectfully disagree on the inverter.

Based on Eugene's criteria, an inverter will not lead much to savings in electricity bills.

Because, he is looking at obtaining 27D constant temp. So, there is no much point to get an inverter motor to be continuously running because at 27D, the motor will have stop anyway.
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Interter do lead much to savings for my bill by using it to get 27°C constant temp. The motor will stop when it reached the required temp for both inverter and non-inverter type. The saving part is on getting the motor on/off to maintain the constant temp in longer hours. That's why the savings is noticeable if using inverter for longer hours to maintain 26/27 °C. It won't save much if inverter is to cool down to 20/21°C as it will be running almost on full load all time.
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post Mar 8 2016, 01:14 PM

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no difference on wiring for air-con. The difference is maybe the aircon is using another phase on 3 phase instead of using on the same phase on single phase.
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post Mar 8 2016, 02:44 PM

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nope, the number of cables to the aircon is still the same.
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post Mar 9 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 8 2016, 06:13 PM)
Hi All,

Not sure if this is the right forum but thought i'd try my luck.

I live in a duplex condo. 2 compressors are placed in the yard area which is right infront of the kitchen. To go to the kitchen there is a hallway.

Right Above the kitchen & yard area there is a bedroom which does not have any air con yet. There are 2 more compressors outside this bedroom area (practically the roof)

What happens is the bedroom without the aircon gets rather hot not only from the sunshine but also when the aircons are running below it and next to it. Same happens to the hallway and the kitchen.

What is the best way to remove the hot air out of these areas to keep it comfortable?
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Install exhaust fan to blow off the hot air from the compressor area, or maybe change the compressor setting/location.
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post Mar 10 2016, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(ksgill80 @ Mar 9 2016, 09:56 PM)
These exhaust fan - are they the type seen in hotel bathrooms?

It's impossible to find another location to place the compressor. Living in a condo there are only certain places it.

I have tried to ensure the aircon setting is not high but it does not help much.
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Nope, bathroom exhaust fan is too small to get the work done, i think u need bigger one like those in restaurant
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post Jun 1 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Richard @ May 31 2016, 11:40 PM)
For the same type motor and run hours a 2hp cannot consume lower electricity compared to 1HP..

It makes no sense..
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I think it make some sense, if the room is small, the 2HP aircon won't run on full load all the time as compared to 1HP aircon, hence, it might consume lower electricity compared to 1HP.

QUOTE(Richard @ Jun 1 2016, 12:06 AM)
Dude .. talk some sense..

You calculate cooling load and then size what hp air-con to use.. You need to know radiant, convection, conductive and sensible heating sources..

check piping then suggest what HP ??  horse shit..
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Besides the room size, you need to check the thickness of the piping, and the diameter of the pipe as well.
If you calculate the room size and it requires 2HP aircon, but your diameter of the pipe is for 1HP aircon, then you can't use the 2HP aircon without changing the piping.
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post Jun 1 2016, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Jun 1 2016, 01:55 PM)
What do you mean full load ?
A 2hp aircon only has one motor, it is either on or off .. We are not talking multiple motor configuration aircon here..

This is domestic residential split unit aircon..One 2hp motor driven compressor..
It's a 1.5kW motor...  less running amps than your home instant 3kw water heater..

The issue is on the motors 6x-10x starting amps which a larger motor will always consume more power due to the larger starting torque than a smaller motor..

You also have no idea what you are talking about ..
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you got me.
you are right, u r the only expert here. I am talking rubbish, sorry bout that guys.
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