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mini orchard
post May 16 2021, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(matyrze @ May 16 2021, 11:40 AM)
Woah yours is even bigger. Well as slimey suggested cool air do stay downstairs. Just need to seal off gaps to optimize efficiency. Thank you..
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We used to have string curtains initially but took it down as we wanted a 'new' look. The string curtain makes the living space looks small.
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post May 19 2021, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ May 19 2021, 04:40 PM)
Actually why it would be easier when it comes to maintenance? Actually a real example, a friend of mine bought the daikin inverter series at the same time when she moved house. Not the cheap ones btw. Then a couple of years later all the inverter aircons breakdown one by one within few months, board issue. Out of warranty and the fix is very expensive. Maybe that batch got the problem. So sometimes better to mix and match.
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I only use 1 brand ac and have a total of 16 units in 3 places. At the moment keeping 3 condemn units for trouble shooting and spare parts. All my current ac are more than 15 years

So when technician says, sensor problem, I give him sensor to test, if is module, I give him module, if outdoor fan motor, I give him one. Not necessary to take to shop to troubleshoot.

I dont buy new ac unless necessary. If compressor condemn, I just replace the compressor. Replace a 1hp new compressor last year for RM550 including labour and refrigerant.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: May 19 2021, 05:41 PM
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post May 19 2021, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 19 2021, 08:46 PM)
Can cannibalise lah like having own junkyard.. but by the time it may make economic sense to change to modern inverter, since OPEX of dinosaur is high. I had one dinosaur unit 1.5hp running 24/7 for one month the bill balloon to 900. Typically its 130-140 w/o aircon. After that billshock scared to use edi.
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My energy bill for the past years have been around RM300 to RM400 per month for my primary house. AC is serviced every 12 months with 2 minor service in between.

I know a technical guy from the manufacturer who does the maintenance on a freelance basis and advise accordingly.


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post May 21 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(frostfrench @ May 21 2021, 10:03 AM)
Going to buy 6 aircons ( sharp and panasonic) for my new house, which retail shop do u guys usually go to? I was thinking sengheng. I am base in KL

Any suggestions will be appreciated
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Buy from shop that offer best price. Afterall, appliances come from one source only.

Check with HLK....their pricing ok. 80% of my appliances from them.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: May 21 2021, 11:58 AM
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post May 21 2021, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(ThengTurtle @ May 21 2021, 04:20 PM)
Can i have full name/address of HLK? Or ada link boleh share?
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They have many outlets .... all found in google.
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post May 24 2021, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(chengsiong @ May 24 2021, 03:24 PM)
Hello, I having a Panasonic inverter r410a and was freezing and not cold. The installer said leak gas and i replaced the piping and topped up gas.

However it is still not cold now. And he said i can reuse the existing piping of R410a to new aircon using R32 gas. Is it ok?
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If you are buying new ac, it comes with piping. Why reuse old ?
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post May 24 2021, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ May 24 2021, 04:28 PM)
aircond dont come with piping.........

there are other reasons as well for reusing old piping like dont want to hack wall
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Installation charges for new ac comes with standard length piping, no ?

But he just replace the piping for his old ac.
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post May 24 2021, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(chengsiong @ May 24 2021, 06:11 PM)
Thanks for your feedback. After changing thrcpiping for existing piping it still froze but a part only and not making cold.

So i decided to replace it with new r32 inverter but asking is it worth the risk to reuse the old (less than a month old) piping.
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A proper installer will never reuse old exposed piping.
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post May 25 2021, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 25 2021, 08:08 AM)
In my case, the sound happened after compressor turn off especially if air cond set to Auto mode (meaning alternating between cooling and fan mode). Later on, the situation gets worse that it also happened in cooling mode as well.

Is this cracking sound common in other air conditioner? I can understand if it happens once a while but constantly through out the night is very disturbing for sleeping. Anything can do to remove/reduce this cracking sound?
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Cracking sound can happen during a very hot day esp for terrace houses. It should only happen initially when the room starts to cool down and should stop thereafter.

If this happen often, the casing cover may not 'sit' correctly. Try to insert styrofoam to see it helps.
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post May 27 2021, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ May 27 2021, 03:16 AM)
Hey guys, need your help.
My Electrolux Air Conditioner displaying H3 error code.
Meaning compressor faulty? Or compressor overheat?
How to solve this?
Just happened at midnight and I will check again later. According to New MCO 3.0 SOP, is technician allow to fix and repair air conditioner at customer's house?
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When was the last date you did a service for the ac? In between did you clean the air filter ?

Anyhow, is time to call the technician. Refer to your jmb for the sop.
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post Jun 1 2021, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 1 2021, 03:13 AM)
Hello ceo684 ycs slimey mini orchard

Some updates regarding the Electrolux air conditioner.
Called technician to fix, wash the outdoor unit with water and vacuuming does not fix this issues.
I think I guess will install a new one better as the technician cannot find what's the issue over there.
Wasted my RM50 and the issues still come back. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

Today start lockdown for whole Malaysia. As technician not allowed to fix air conditioner during this period.
Panasonic released new X-Premium Inverter model which is CS-XU10XKH-1.
Got one shop quoted me for RM1849 without installation. The Save 2.0 suddenly open back for a short period.
Final price will RM1649 with the Save 2.0 promotion from the government by claiming through TNB part.
So should I reserve for full price without installation now to claim the RM200 off from the government?
As I might afraid that Save 2.0 aka RM200 off will end again.

The new model comes with built in WiFi which is a bonus for me.
I wish to get the CS-XPU10WKH-1 model but no left right auto swing.
Last time I bought Daikin FTKU series but haven't claim due to quota finished and now open back again.
Now the shop told me Daikin temporary no stock. Luckily get one for my room before OOS.
Now is my sister's room suddenly display H3. No idea the problem comes from where.
Don't wanna waste my time and money when the H3 display again after fixing.
Not only showing H3 error, left and right motor swing also spoil, can hear clak clak clak sound when auto swing.
The technician last month came said no spare part. Gonna let it go I guess. About 5 years like that.
Can't remember which year that I bought it. MCO making me headache to see Air Conditioner out of stock everywhere due to global chip shortage

Anyone using the latest Panasonic ones already?
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I am not a fan of many features in AC. It makes trouble shooting complicated.

Your price 1649 and plus std installation 200 will be 1849. Some will charge extra for removing old AC.

This guy 1799 all in including removing old AC. Chat with him. He has stock. Only problem is installation due to lockdown.

https://shopee.com.my/Panasonic-1.0HP-X-Pre...5350.4489766840
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post Jun 1 2021, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 1 2021, 09:12 AM)
I'm living in Penang. So not possible get that price.
I check variation of that price RM1799 excluding installation.
But if apply and deduct Save 2.0 voucher will be cheaper. .
The technician brought and test using refrigerant meter to test.
In the end mention outdoor unit thing dirty.
We told the guy display H3 error. Don't want to waste my time if the next technician cannot fix what's the issues.
Will try to use up the Save 2.0 voucher. Can save RM200.
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My advise is to maintain one brand for the house. Not all technicians are good at troubleshooting various brands with the complexity of models nowadays.

I keep old condemed units for spare parts.
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post Jun 1 2021, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Jun 1 2021, 10:32 AM)
Just that Air Conditioner fan gets dirty quickly due to bigger hole at the top of the Air Conditioner.
Managed to wash indoor unit before lockdown.
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You can install another filter on top of the current filter. I did that for all my AC.

Only downside is a sligjht drop in wind speed. You dont need to clean the IDU often, just the filter every 3 months . The last my technician took down to clean was 1.5 years ago.
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post Jun 1 2021, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(incredibless @ Jun 1 2021, 10:49 AM)
hi aircond sifu and expert. I am planning to move in my house soon and would need some of your advice on aircond. Currently, I had narrowed down to two brands of aircond namely Panasonic & Sharp. I am contemplation whether should I use fully inverter or mix with non inverter. My plan is to install for Living Room & Masterroom only.

Between both models which of you have experience/current using is ookay? since price is more or less similar.
1. Panasonic X-Premium Inverter R32 Series
2. Sharp R32 Inverter Plasmacluster Air Cond
Usage of aircond [can say heavy]
1. Master-room [10pm to 6am] -Mon-Sun
2. Livingroom [12pm-6pm] - Weekends / and occasionally weekdays if work from home.

My plan is to mix installation
1. Master-room - 1 hp a/c Inverter [15ft x 15ft]
2. Living room - Non Inverter 2hp a/c [covers approx 15ft x 35ft]
Which of the above is likely suitable? Prefers energy savings for long term usage.

or both inverter?  hmm.gif
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If your place is a house and not a condo, consider spliting the living unit to 2 units 1.5hp for faster and evenly cooling. Thereafter you you can switch off 1 unit.

If yours is a condo, ODU maybe a problem due to space.
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post Jun 1 2021, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(incredibless @ Jun 1 2021, 11:32 AM)
thank you for your kind reply. mine is house. About inverter and non inverter would that be alot difference in saving given the usual
usage i had shared?  hmm.gif
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I cant comment on inverter AC as I dont own a unit.

As for fridge, when I changed to inverter, my overall power bill decreased.

AC savings is about ...

1. Suitability hp to space
2. Maintenance
3. Open or closed environment
4. User habits.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jun 1 2021, 11:54 AM
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post Jun 1 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(ken_zen @ Jun 1 2021, 02:40 PM)
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Sifus, is there a way to clean the dust stick on the fin without using water? Have try the vacuum but does not work.
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The dust is too damp to be suck by a vacuum.

A good pressure water hose is the way to go, if diy.

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post Jun 1 2021, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Jun 1 2021, 04:42 PM)
I have a old York 1.0hp non-inverter ODU and the side cover is broken, where can find replacement ar?
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Try those shops selling used AC. They may not have your brand but get something close.

https://www.mudah.my/Aircond+Terpakai-90198953.htm
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post Jun 1 2021, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Jun 1 2021, 10:16 PM)
Thanks. But i am looking for just the side plastic cover only...
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Some may have some condemned units for spare parts. If the cover fits, he can sell or give it to you.

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post Jun 2 2021, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jun 2 2021, 07:03 PM)
Need some expert advice.

May I know what is those white spot? It looks like ice for me, but I turn off my aircon before morning, and I check evening still can see this. If is ice it should be melt after some times.

I wonder is my additional filter cause the air flow problem. I will remove it and monitor.

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Use a toothpick to remove to see or feel what is it ?

Most likely is your additional white polyester type filter disintegrating.
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post Jun 3 2021, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Jun 3 2021, 09:37 AM)
It feel like powder, but when press it just wet with sand feel. I use toothbrush to clean it all.

I have remove the additional filter yesterday, today looks fine. Will keep monitor.

I've been using extra filter about 7 years since install.

Possible the blower getting old? or the power not enough? My unit have extra 'Power saving' function which I can step down the power. I always use the lowest to save electricity.
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Is the ceiling board comes with abestos sheet ? Possible of disintegration.

My second layer carbon filter is covered with whitish powder in one of the room....also abestos ceiling board.

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