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post Jan 4 2016, 09:25 AM

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Hello, Friends,

Today I want to highlight something that tinarhian brought up;
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Matthew 7:13-14 (NIV)

The Narrow and Wide Gates

13“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.


The word Life in this passage in the Greek is zóé. The context refers to the present Physical life or spiritual life. In the Greek, Eternal life is aiónios zóé.

In the Book of Revelation, the Apostle John mentioned he saw multitudes of Saints to the point, they cannot be counted.

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So this passage cannot refer to the meaning of Salvation, hard to be attained to the point only a few people found it.
So what does it mean then?


This passage can apply in 2 meanings.

1. It refers to the present Abundant Life on earth that Jesus promised in John 10:10. Many people try to find life through money, through life partner, through partying, etc and all end up empty, the word destruction means a place of defeat. Life, whether abundant, good, or peaceful or complete can only be found through Jesus Christ. Many people thinks that by finding a BF or Gf would help solve the emptiness in their life. Many also thinks money will bring them life and the Bible warns in many places, those who put their trust in money as security in life will end in ruins quite quickly.
No friends, Life is given as a gift from Jesus Christ, to be in a place where you are at peace, provided for, protected by and Loved. That is the life Jesus came to give.


2. It can also refer to this. When Jesus spoke those words in Matthew 7, it was addressed particularly to the Jewish Crowd. He was trying to help them understand, He is the only way to God, not the Law. The whole Jewish nation rejected Him as the Messiah, only a handful (His disciples and some followers) believed in Him, hence the reference " only a few find it".

Hope this helps. Don't allow anyone to hoodwink you by quoting this passage out of context.

God Bless.


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post Jan 6 2016, 01:01 AM

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post Jan 7 2016, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 6 2016, 05:56 PM)
The wide gate narrow gate seriously misconstrued for a long time now.

BTW what is Christianphilandism? Whatever the spelling is. Someone who tried to mentor me apparently is that. What I really understood is that it's ajaran sesat.
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lol, Wats that?

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post Jan 7 2016, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 7 2016, 08:12 PM)
I couldn't spell it properly so I had to go to CARM to check the cult list.

https://carm.org/christadelphianism

It's this one. Manyak complicated.
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I wonder how is it that they can say Jesus has a fallen nature, needs to redeem himself and has sin when the Bible is so clear.


1 John 3:5 (NIV) - But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.

1 Peter 2:22 (NIV) - "He committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth."

And this verse is the clearest.

2 Corinthians 5:21 (NIV) - God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Reading problem or wat???? doh.gif
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post Jan 8 2016, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 7 2016, 11:54 PM)
Group, I dunno. It's just right out of the blue.

Heh UW, that's why they're called a cult.

There was a time where he told me that salvation works like this. God saves you and places you like say a couch. Or any plane away from danger. You can choose to stay inside it, or insist on falling off the safe zone. It's your free will in the end whether to stay or not to stay.
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Well in a way he's right only that the term that people uses like couch or plane differs from 1 theology to another.

We have to go by what the Bible says.

Many Christians around the world use the term sin in the sense by what you do or actions that causes you to fall away from God. (I'm talking about believers who have accepted Christ, not sinners who have yet to receive Christ)

However the Bible says that is by Grace and by our Faith in Christ we are saved, therefore likewise, the only way to fall from God is by the same manner, that we reject Christ as saviour and refuse to believe in Him by faith. What I mean in context are for believers who initially believe Jesus as saviour and later on reject Him on purpose. (Which would involve faith)
That would be accurate according to scripture.

Just to add: I believe according to scripture we are saved by our Lord Jesus Christ by believing in Him as the Son of God, Saviour and God, believed that He died on the cross for all my sins, past present and future. While in the mean time of growing, we may fall here and there but as long as our Faith remains steadfast, we are saved. We are never separated from God because first of all we NEVER earned our Salvation. With that being said, since we never earned Salvation by our effort, likewise we cannot lose our Salvation by our effort. We will be contradicting scripture and the Finished work of Christ otherwise.

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post Jan 8 2016, 03:01 PM

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Sophiera You seen this video?



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post Jan 10 2016, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 9 2016, 11:45 PM)
Oh yes! I've heard of it, but not this exact video.
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I'm more intrigue by this temple of Heaven in China


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Very much similar to the way the Jews Sacrifice to God under the OT.
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post Jan 10 2016, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 10 2016, 07:50 PM)
It would make sense since everyone migrated from Babel.

Oh good news, my dad went to church today rclxms.gif He hasn't gone for normal service in like 20+ years.

My prayers answered at last.
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Keep praying girl. wink.gif

Praise God.
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post Jan 11 2016, 09:41 AM

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http://www.faithit.com/crashed-pole-at-85m...eard-spiritual/


“Three seconds. That’s how long we had from the moment we drifted off the road until the truck hit the pilar at 85mph. In three seconds Hunter had to handle a situation that would either kill us immediately or save our lives. He keeps beating himself up for my pain but he saved my life. He keeps saying ‘I should have protected you and I didn’t do that’ but he did exactly what he needed to do to make sure my life didn’t end. The whole baseball player part helped him out…if he can hit a 95mph fastball he can do anything 😎. He took care of me. And when we were both lying in our beds in the ER he found a way to come protect my heart and give me a hug. Lord knows I needed that just as much as my safety.

I’m overwhelmed at how little damage was done to Hunter and I in a wreck that should have chopped our bodies in half. I’m in awe of the presence of God in this entire situation. Every part of this experience we went through points directly to Him. The way God helped Hunter to respond exactly the way he did behind the wheel, spinning the truck exactly where it should have to be able to smash into the pilar directly in the middle of me and Hunter so we were both untouched…that doesn’t just happen. God doesn’t throw protection around like that for no reason. He does it because he’s not finished with us.

I have problems with my heartbeat. When I get anxious or worried it flutters pretty bad…pulling me into panic attacks. The moment we hit and I realized I was conscious I realized that is what was happening to me. While out of breath and trying to move my legs i was screaming..panicked…yelling for Hunter to just say something. I needed to know he was okay. Looking to the drivers seat all I saw was his head through the windshield, a face full of blood, and a body that wasn’t moving. I looked straight out the truck and there was a man..bright with a big white beard. No other cars in sight…just this man. He was my guardian angel. He saw me and immediately told me that an ambulance was coming. I jumped out of the car, ran over to Hunters side and just looked at this man.

From that moment until Hunter was cut & lifted out of the truck I believe with my whole heart that looking at this man helped me to literally believe in that moment that Hunter was next to me on the road. I dont know if it was a hallucination or me unconsciously dreaming or a glimpse of heaven…but all I knew in that moment was that Hunter was safe with me. This man..looking at him for a short moment..helped me not witness Hunter being peeled out of the truck. I believe if I saw that I would have had a heart attack. Right when Hunter was actually out and next to me, I asked this man when the ambulance was coming. He told me in just a second. He walked away, I blinked and a flashlight was in my face. The paramedics were there helping me and Hunter and the anxiety and worry if he was okay disappeared because we were in good hands.

Here is the miracle part: no broken bones, concussions that lasted not even 24 hours, no internal damage, and just a few stitches in my knee and hunters face. Only that after an accident that paramedics wonder how we didn’t die instantly and a truck that looks like it’s been through a tree grinder. We’re both already released from the hospital not even 48 hours after entering. All of our belongings in perfect condition besides a few things here and there..and the only thing left behind at the crash scene is Hunters bible open, with a page marked with scripture telling us to not be afraid; Jesus is with us.
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post Jan 13 2016, 07:51 AM

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Carefully Investigated

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Luke 1:3-4 (NIV) - 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.


We always think that God chose simple people to write his words like fisherman, shepherds, etc. Sceptics may say because they are simple people, they could be writing nonsense. That is not entirely true. There was a learnt Man in the Bible. A Man of education and science. He was chosen by Jesus.

He was the apostle Luke. He was the physician or doctor of Jesus day on earth. And this is what he wrote in verse 3; the opening of his book.

"3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,"

It wasn't blind faith. Luke not only investigated but carefully investigated. As doctors, they are professional in their profession. They cannot simple act rashly or foolishly, else the lives of their patients will be at stake.

The apostle Luke took careful details of what happened. Why? Because that is the nature of scientific people and ultimately, because God wants you to believe confidently; his word is the eternal truth and not myth of fiction.

I'm of the opinion if we can trust doctors in their medical opinion, we can also trust that there is a degree of integrity in the writings.
Our Lord Jesus wants you to have a confident expectation of who He is. That He is Who He claims to be. Our Saviour, Our Redeemer, Our God.
And That was what Luke Recorded.

Interestingly, among the synoptic gospels, the account of Luke is the most detailed recorded. We have access to what happened 2000 years ago in vivid detail and account. May I encourage you to
re read the Book of Luke and digest it slowly. You may encounter our Lord Jesus with refresh revelation in there.

God Bless.

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post Jan 13 2016, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(kkb888 @ Jan 13 2016, 10:47 AM)
Good find. And I think Apostle Paul is also educated people, something like the royal or something?

And in old testament there are also many members of royal who wrote the bible, eg: King David, King Solomon and Moses smile.gif
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Yes the Apostle paul or previous Saul was very advanced (according to the Bible) in Judaism even among his peers, meticulous in the Laws of Moses. They knew the terms, every crook and inch of the words. You can say he is like a top Professional Legal Experts of the Law, you cannot bluff your way through.

They are very detail people. He was in the elite class when it comes to the subject of god's word of the Old Testament. Yes they have to be educated to have such magnanimous comprehension capabilities but the reason why in today's topic, the Apostle Luke was highlighted because He was a Medical person who belongs to Scientific community.

Not so with King David, He was a simple shepherd boy. Solomon became wise because God blessed with Wisdom beyond most people.

Moses was a person who had inferior complex problem, He has no confidence in himself and admit before God is Slow of speech meaning not very charismatic and don't know how to talk to people, have anger issues and a very reluctant person. Makes you wonder why God chose him, doesn't it?

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post Jan 13 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(kkb888 @ Jan 13 2016, 11:13 AM)
But Kings David and Solomon since they are "Kings" I suppose they must have acquired good intellectual knowledge in order to rule the country? Even acquired after in their late life and before writing the bible?

Moses was also brought up in royal family in Egypt so I assumed him also had received proper education since he was a kid...
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All happens because of the anointing of God.

1 Samuel 16:13 (NIV)
So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came powerfully upon David. Samuel then went to Ramah.

You'll noticed that David changed from being a simple shepherd boy to having Kingship quality in administration and leadership. He didn't acquire that by mere self effort.

Same with Moses.

All as enabled by God and the saying is true, God will not call you to do something without enabling / providing you to do it. They became who they are because of God.

QUOTE(kkb888 @ Jan 13 2016, 11:18 AM)
And God often chose the "fool" in order to shame the "wise", in order to show his glory  smile.gif
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Yes this showing of Glory is something that help us understand God is for the destitute and unwanted; not to show off God just like that as how sceptics might think.

And another reason is to magnify God's Grace. Meaning Moses is basically represents you and I. God delights in choosing unqualified as well as qualified people, He does not have prejudice.

The world only expect the best to be on top, the fastest, the smartest, the strongest, etc etc not so with God. God can enable anyone as long as they are willing.


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post Jan 13 2016, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 13 2016, 06:26 PM)
Wah ini newspaper clip where is it from? It's so honest, people need to see more of these.
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I found that from my friend's Likes in FB.

And why I like it, is because it's 100% scriptural correct.

That is what it means to worship God in spirit and in truth.

To be honest before God in our live that we don't have it all together and yet

recognizing despite of our failings, God has remove all the condemnation and judged it finished and complete at the Cross.

In that sense, when we come before God, ALWAYS recognize it's because of Jesus's Blood, NEVER our ACT of obedience that qualify us to be in his presence.

And God wants us to be confident of that Grace. The Bible says Come Boldly to his throne of grace....

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post Jan 15 2016, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 14 2016, 11:09 PM)
I read about King Solomon. He had 700 wives and 300 concubines.  rclxub.gif

Eventhough God was angry with him, but for the sake of David, God did not entirely destroy his kingdom.

Because 1 chosen tribe of Solomon's son was going to be the descendant line of Jesus.

Did I get it right?  hmm.gif
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Actually God is just using the failures of Man to magnify his Grace. That is the point, not so much for David's Sake but for his only begotten Son's Sake, Jesus who personify Grace.

If you study the Bible; in the linage of Jesus Christ, God uses people who have stigma of Sin for his Son to come through. Why is it, God never uses more honorable people who are of integrity.

One of the Linage was a prostitute another was because of Lust, and Murder.


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post Jan 15 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 15 2016, 02:05 PM)
Yes just like our churches, who nowadays only care about investing in expanding the kingdom but not care about church welfare and community.

Just look at marriage and family ministry, nothing is invested into this? They think marriage counselling course is going to cover. Where are the marriage and family programs? We still need to ensure our kids are trained and counsel well in the ways of God.

Then nothing is mention about unity of the church. I feel like I am going to an alien church, I know nobody there, even people I worked with there, after a few months they forgotten who I am. We are a community, we need to stand together. We are relationship humans, we need to feel belong to a church. By saying this, means we need to be able to go to church and feel comforted by the fact we are with friends and Godly family. Only then our service of serving will be greatly improved.

But I suppose "serve, then you will be rewarded" edict seem to be the church order of the day. But they took it out of context, people of those days serve because they love Jesus not wanting something back. But churches like DUMC, are brainwashing telling people if you serve, you will get your prayer request from God, answered. Like the life partner you wish for, or the child for the barren couple, or the individual who so badly want to be a doctor. Serving won't reward you with this, serving itself is the reward. Its ridiculous to expect to find a life partner by merely serving, you need to invest time to go out and seek, if you're always serving in the weekends then what are the probabilities of you succeding in finding a life partner?

Cell group is so important but DUMC has multiplied all cgs that it is of miniscule size. Every meeting I go, there's only 4 of us. I don't even feel like I am in a community.
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laugh.gif What happened to your GF?
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post Jan 16 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 15 2016, 06:10 PM)
Still around.

My cg leader ask me to join the church membership, I refuse because I am against the church policy and I still want my tithes to go to para church organization, I don't want to make an oath to contribute all my 10% to the church who doesn't know how to fully utilise it. I was treasury for the church before, so I don't like the way funds been distributed around.

Looks like no church wedding.
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I don't see tithing that way. When I give, I don't give it to the Church. I give as an act of worship to God because if it wasn't for God, I would have no income.

When we understand whatever remuneration, first came from God, you'll understand too the 10% never belongs to us in the first place. So when we give, we need to understand we're not contributing to any Church organization or to the staff working there.

I believe we need to have this holistic mindset when we tithe. When I tithe, I just pray a simple prayer, saying God, this belongs to you, I tithe because I believe in you and what you say.

With that being said; I leave it to the Church to handle the finance. I don't worry about it because they will have to answer for it if it's abuse, God is not blind.

You've been the treasurer for DUMC?

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post Jan 16 2016, 10:00 AM

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YOU WILL FIND HIM!

Deuteronomy 4:29 (NIV) - But if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.

This is a promise from God since from the times of Old till today, it stands offered to everyone, that if you would seek Him with everything you got, you will definitely find him. You don't need any scientific apparatus to discover God. You don't need to go through complex processes. You don't need to have superior intellectual capabilities above others to discover Him.

God has not made it difficult but has made it simple, you just have to seek with all your heart. God make things simple and yet Man wants to complicate things, the vanity of Man.

There are many people out there seeking God but unable to make that contact point. There are Christians as well, who religiously comes to Church, even pray but have not really seek God with all their heart and thus only see God from afar.

Let's get down to business. What does it mean to seek God with all your heart?

Does it mean I have to live religiously righteously and never make any mistakes or sin then only I will find him? We have that from the Pharisees and it didn't work.

No. Though that is something in process of change but God does not want superficial religion from you. God wants personal relationship. Why? So that you know Him.

To seek God with all your heart is to treat God real and come to Him in everything that you do, whether you have a good day or a bad day, you come to God and communicate to Him like a real person, pouring out your heart in all honesty. And it's daily. That's it. When you do that on a daily basis, you will start to see God day by day working, moving and answering you in your life. See when you do your part which is to act in Faith, God will do his part and reveal himself to you. When you keep doing this consistently, the problem of doubt dissipates day by day.

It is not this; trying to be holy, this striving and struggling, beating your chest, confessing till you're blue in the face at the altar. People can do that for a show and go away unchanged.

Dear Friends, let us seek God with all our heart, with all simple honesty, to seek God in a real relationship. not half hearted superficial seeking. As One who seeks God because you know He is real.

When you treat God as real, it pleases God because that is Faith. When God is pleased, His face and countenance shines on you.

God Bless.

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post Jan 16 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jan 16 2016, 10:33 PM)
Do you know Bro keng or more fondly known as jack or wee jack
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I got a friend looking to work in AV dept, let me know if ur Church need one or DUMC.

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