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The Photo I used is actually our pre-Christmas practice. Sophie U been there, the lighting are awesome n beautiful.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 23 2015, 05:01 PM) QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 23 2015, 08:34 PM) The Photo I used is actually our pre-Christmas practice. Sophie U been there, the lighting are awesome n beautiful. |
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QUOTE(neuroneuster @ Dec 23 2015, 11:47 PM) Hi. May I know your observation on people of mass in Bahasa Melayu? Are they usually from Sabah and Sarawak? (for churches in the West Malaysia) Ya Some go alone, it's alright but if you chat up with any of the people there, I'm quite sure you'll find new friends.Are there usually people who go to mass alone? Do people who go for mass know each other, or gather to know each other, or after the mass they just leave? My questions look funny but I need to know how the environment is before, during and after the mass and how is the social acceptance towards people who go alone. Thanks. |
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QUOTE(neuroneuster @ Dec 24 2015, 12:06 AM) When the Angel proclaimed to the Shepherd in the field about the birth of Jesus;He said; "Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people." All people means all races. God never limits who can or cannot come. All are welcome. |
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 24 2015, 01:22 AM) Well, we're having our Christmas service on 24hth which is technically today later at night at 9PM.7.30-8.30PM, there's fellowship n Makan at concourse area. You're welcome to come if you want to. |
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 24 2015, 06:43 AM) no prob, hope you have a good time with your family.QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Dec 24 2015, 08:26 AM) MerryXmas Steve. Yeah I'm in the choir. We're the backdrop Angels as you can see standing on the upper stage. How's everything? |
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Guys, pray to God to help you get prepared for next year.
Take inventory of your life and how you want some areas to be protected, defended from the Devil wreaking havoc. Health, Financially, Family, Spiritual.... Pray Dear Child of God. PRAY for all areas to be unhindered, pray for breakthrough. Whatever it is, PRAY! God Bless. |
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How much How Wide Dear Friends, Believers of Christ and those searching for God; Today I want to expound the word of God to let you know how much how wide God love you. You'll never understand how much God loves until you understand and realize how much Father Loves Jesus. In there lies something very profound. The Bible says in John 17:24 that God the Father Loved Jesus before the foundation of the world. Before you and I even existed, before this world even begun, Father God Loved Jesus. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Jesus was the only begotten Son of God. When He was about to be borned in a manger, A Heavenly host of Angels, proclaimed his birth to a group of shepherds. When He grew up, The Bible says He grewed up, He Grew in Grace and favour of God and Man. (Luke 2:52) When he was weary in the wilderness, Angels attended to Him. (Matthew 4:11) What does, all of that mean? It means that God Loves his Son, watches over Him closely and shower him with his favour and Grace. God would not allow any harm come to his son anymore than any other father would allow harm to come to his or her own child. And The Bible says in Romans 8:32; that Father God gave Him up for us all. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I want you to stop here and see 2 phrases; "Did not spare his own Son" and "For us all". I don't think for a moment, you would even spare lending your car to someone who else you hardly know or to make matters worse, to people you don't like. The Bible says And Yet while we were sinners and enemies of God, He gave up Jesus for us. God gave up the best that Heaven Had, the ones that Angels worship. There is nothing more important in Heaven than Jesus. Just some thoughts in wisdom, If God would withheld "Healing" from you, it only means to God "healing" is above and more important than Jesus. If God would withheld Providence from you, it only means to God "providence" is above and more important than Jesus. Do you see how much God loves you when you read the whole passage of Romans 8:32? I want you to ignore your own little thoughts telling you it's nothing, I want you to ignore what the world has been telling you, I want you to ignore what the Devil has been telling you. I want you to hear what God has been trying to tell you but you shut Him off and could not believe. It may trouble you to understand this but today, have the heart to hear. God did not spare his own Son but GAVE HIM UP for us all. That is how much God loves you. If you know that God loves you, then believed by Faith that you will be protected by, be provided and be blessed for each and every situation by your Heavenly Father. God Bless and have a good weekend. |
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 28 2015, 10:26 PM) If He can do that, he wouldn't be asking. In Fact we should all come to a place and admit before God we cannot.QUOTE(kkb888 @ Dec 28 2015, 10:12 PM) Anyone struggling with pornography and masturbation here? Hi Bro.I believe I have been saved by Christ but I just could not stop looking at porn, especially when I am stressed, or too bored. I prayed many times but still struggling.. Grace and Peace be multiplied to your Life in the Name of our Lord Jesus. Yes you are saved by your Faith in Christ. Hold Fast to that, don't allow any Man to talk you out of it, especially legalistic christians or even yourself. In my heart I wanted to share something yesterday night when I saw your post but I withheld and today I believe I was given this revelation that may be of help. The Prophet Jeremiah prophesied, Ahead of time that the day will come when God's people will know God by this name Jeremiah 23:6 (KJV) In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. What this means is that Jesus is your righteous and this prophecy has been fulfilled, many Jews are returning to their Home and in Romans 3:22, The Apostle Paul through the HS, says that the Righteousness of God is given through our Faith in Christ. Today even when you failed, The LORD IS YOUR Righteousness. In Romans 5:17, the Bible says that we as Christian can reign in Life when we receive abundance of Grace and the Gift of Righteousness. The key word here is "reign" meaning you're an overcomer against circumstances even Sin. And the way for this to work is that you keep on receiving this by Faith, 2 things: Abundance of Grace and the Gift if righteousness. It goes without saying THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS is a gift of Grace. Here is what you can do. Every time you failed, you can confess this before God; Father God you know all things, you know that I have failed, but I also thank you, the sin that I've committed have been judged at the cross. You must say and believe that every sins you commit or will commit have been judged at the cross. You need to understand when Jesus breathed his last and declared "FINISHED!" at the cross, it is really finished, He has taken all our sins. Not one is left unpunished. Accept the fact that God is your righteousness. Your acts/performance...even your obedience to the Laws of God cannot give any righteousness. Many Christians mistaken to think that after being saved by Christ and by abstaining from sin, it qualified them to be in the place of Righteousness or Holiness. The Bible does not teach that. The book Romans clearly teaches that Righteousness is a gift credit via Faith and we are made holy by the blood of the lamb, not by our performance. You must receive this grace with boldness and by Faith, else you will always be stuck in an endless cycle of self condemnation. Then adhere to what is written in the Book of Philipians 3:12-13 which is tells us to get up, forget what was behind and move on. The Lord Bless you. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 29 2015, 09:34 AM |
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 29 2015, 09:49 AM) In fact, he can. Change is never easy, good thing is that he admits it. The hardest of all he has already done it. Next is to find a better healthier substitute. Perhaps you have not realize you have been this grace from God, others have yet to receive.It is not of yourself. |
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QUOTE(kkb888 @ Dec 29 2015, 10:10 AM) Thanks brother. Your revelation is in-line with what I believe, but I am also thinking to myself, what if until i die, or when the lord comes, I'm still doing this sin. I can imagine I will not have the "face" to face the Lord. No prob, bro.I really want to break free from this. I shared my struggle with few friends before. They prayed for me. My pastor at church, also prayed for me. But I'm still coming back to sin. The longest I held up before was when I was living with a church friend who is a very devoted Christian at overseas, and I managed to hold up for around 45 days. and that was it. I never went without committing this sin any longer than that since ever. I kind of think that the reason of my constant failure was because I lack the toughness, and possibly faith, to face the downside of my life. I think I also tend to be a perfectionist, but I like being perfectionist sometimes, because it drives me to move and work for the better of things. But, the contradiction to this perfectionist nature is that, I care A LOT how people think of me. I can give you an example of this contradiction: I studied overseas and now working in my hometown in Malaysia. I notice, for example, my colleagues are very laid back, chit-chat a lot, and sometimes even listen to music during working hours. Well, I could of course easily solve this problem by wearing an ear plug as far as the noise and distraction is concerned. But I also thought I could have come up before them and to tell them their chit chat and music distracted me, which I think it is what I "should" do (perfectionism kicks in here); but I did not do, because I lacked the courage to assert what I want because I want to have good terms with my colleagues! Furthermore, I feel particularly lonely since I came back from overseas, the laid-back nature in my hometown, making me feeling unmotivated to do what I want. Because whenever I assert what i want, i get pissed off and would scare people away (I don't like scaring people away as I said I care A LOT how people think of me: Cuz if i do what I think I "should" do, People would think: this fellow why so serious, this fellow should just go along with the culture and don't make it too hard on things la; if this fellow wants to change things, sorry but he has to be more proactive and persistent, and for me, I will just see how things go and MAYBE follow him if he could bring better things for me. (at least this is what I see of the mentality of the people in my hometown) But thing is, I want more, do good things for the society with skills I have, lead people to better life, do God's will, be truly satisfied and to fully utilize my living on this earth. But I lack the power of will, lack support, not even my family provides enough support for me. And every time I feel stuck in this, I revert back to pornography ... Bro, sorry for throwing out all this grumble, hope it does not wear you out There are no perfect christians, only a perfect Jesus to look to to be saved. When we all meet our Lord face to face, all of us have flaws in our corrupted body. God is not oblivious to this, he knows..that's why He said, It's not the healthy that needs a doctor but the sick, the unrighteous, the ungodly, etc. I really thank God Jesus said that. All of us qualify. We will only be in a perfect state when we receive our perfect glorious body from Heaven. That is written in 1 Corinthians 15:52. Well I always argue like this: If we can through our own ability and strength abstain the standards of God, Jesus didn't have to come. Because by that logic, we can qualify ourselves. And if we can qualify ourselves, the 10 commandments is all we need, there is no reason for a saviour to come. Salvation is not about us, what we do or don't do. Salvation is all about the work of Christ, What He did. Our focus under the New Covenant is to constantly look to Him and Him Alone as our Righteousness. When we do that by Faith, the Holy Spirit goes into divine work, transforming us from inside to live right. But the flip side is also true. If we keep looking at ourselves, whether we have done enough, performed enough, abstain enough, then the problem of self kicks in, instead of divine power. God has in a way warned us in the Old Testament in Jeremiah 17:5; » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « if we look to ourselves, there is no power because self will always occupied with self rather than Christ. In a way it's a sort of a curse. The Bible says in 2 Corinthians 12:9, » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Grace and strength of Christ is attracted to the area of our weakness, not our strength. If we have weakness in pornography, that is where God can work out his power when we admit we have no strength of our own. The more we are at rest in Christ, the more grace and power of Christ Flow. In fact the opposite is true, the more we exhibit our own strength, it repels God's Strength and Grace further away. It may not happen immediately. may take failures after failures, maybe months, maybe years.. but if you keep receiving this grace; to acknowledge and confess that your sins each and everyone of them committed already judged at the cross, the power of sin will have no hold over you. Hope this helps a bit. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 29 2015, 04:27 PM |
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 29 2015, 09:57 AM) If god been that good. he will be straight away cure of his addiction. By the way, change is never easy. I am sure you of all people should know this very well. All we can do is encourage him to change and find a better substitute or pray if you would. Actually our life has everything to do with God being the centred of our life. Being directly connected in Grace and Power and Being directly involved in Guidance and Wisdom. Jesus did say apart from Him we can do nothing. (John 15:5). Apart here in the context, without God involved, we cannot. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 29 2015, 11:56 AM |
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 29 2015, 01:33 PM) Simple really. You dont even believe in yourself so how do you expect to do THINGS!?!?!? Just curious, Do you believe in what the Bible says bro?GOD merely guides us. HE doesnt do the stuffs we ask. Also, we can do things even without GOD intervention like simple stuffs. Because Philippians 2:13 tells us otherwise. (It's either that or you're saying something else and I'm talking something else) Philippians 2:13 (NIV) - for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 29 2015, 02:37 PM |
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 29 2015, 02:40 PM) Dont really believe in the Bible. (Insert known facts about the Bible) Ah I see. I have no problem if want to join in the fellowship, you're quite welcome really BUT....Rather trust GOD than the Bible. Can I at least kindly request that you at least respect what we share in here from the Bible and not contradict or teach us otherwise? Because I find it weird that a Christian would counter contradict what is taught in the bible....but then now that I know you don't believe in the Bible...that's a different thing altogether and it's alright. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 29 2015, 03:00 PM |
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 29 2015, 03:20 PM) Did i say anything about anything about you guys?...... I am just answering your questions... It's alright bro, because I keep thinking everyone who participate in here are christians. If the bible is straight out written by GOD then i have no qualms but it is not so yea and it has only one version which raise flags all over so yea. I think this would be my last. By the way, you dont see me insulting nor questioning your believes. I am here to read, to see and learn a few things if i can. More than not, i'm mostly here to fellowship as well. I'll leave the teaching to you guys unless some one ask me for my opinion then i will state mine. Peace bro Well you did raise an interesting topic about the Bible. The Whole Bible first and foremost is about the Son of God really, more than anything. Jesus himself mentioned that. The Old Testament has many hidden revelation about Jesus. The Bible was not directly written by God's hand per say but inspired by God and it is proven right because it all points back to Christ. (Well there's the 2 stone tablets of the 10 commandment..that is written from the fingers of God.) Behind that meaning of "inspired" means that God is the one who inspired and directed what was written and recorded in words through the hands of his people. And we found the copies of thousands of Manuscripts in the dead sea scroll caves. The copies are still intact until today. How do we know that it's not just man's rambling? Because there is nothing in there that benefits the writer's self interest. And to make the matter worse there are many writers not just one. 66 Books and 40 Different Authors, different time period. My argument is that if it was just the ideas of Man or it's cooked up, it would have 66 books all in different directions all over and have no common bearing over each other. There is absolutely no reason for all the authors writing pointing to one common thing. the birth of the prophesized messiah..our Lord and Saviour..Jesus. Today, if anyone wants to understand the Bible, will have to work and start from understanding the purpose of why what how when..everything about Jesus Christ then work backward or forward (OT & NT) We also need the Hebrew and Greek references and the most important part..the Holy Spirit of God. Without the 3rd person of God, the Bible will be easily misunderstood or interpreted out of context. |
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Morning Friends, (or Night by the time you see this) Sophiera Just couple of verses to share and study. Matthew 7:21 (NIV) - "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Sounds scary right? Perhaps you may encountered some people who may say all kind of things using this verse and it confuses you. Well consider this verse below of what that will is about. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « God Bless |
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 1 2016, 06:45 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Ack I forgot to log into lowyat. Happy 2016 everyone! Um... about that one. You're right that a lot of people say that to be the result of not being faithful enough. Or something along the lines. But... I don't think it's that anymore? Because nowadays I learn of people studying Theology with PHD but never believing Jesus is Lord and Saviour. To them, he's just a historical or mythical subject. You know what he told me? He says that people who are leaders or well known in the Christian World gifted with the Holy Spirit don't need all that sort of tertiary qualification. If anyone has ailment, these type of people just touch you and you will be healed. They are the ones who don't mind to get dirty cleaning up after old folks who can't take care of themselves. He says he has more respect for these than those who has all kind of theology qualifications and preach very well. I know where he's coming from and I agree. So don't worry about them. After all Jesus says you'll know a tree by the fruits. |
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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 1 2016, 06:15 PM) Amen Bro.2 Corinthians 5:17 (NIV) - Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 2 2016, 05:55 PM) Correct correct. I really don't know Sophiera, the Christian World is very big. There are countless ministers, preachers out there, known and unknown.I still don't really know who are the guys who got rejected though? I feel like I'm missing context. Like, how many 'spiritual experts' collect every 'god' out there as an arsenal to do their job. Or these people are from cults. They have power but come from the Devil? ????? Tolong clarify. Paul addressed the same issue all the way back since the church's foundation. He taruk them kau kau with his words You can see some of the action happening in 1 Chorinthians book. You can't count, it's just too many, world wide. What's important is that Christ must be preached, what He (Christ) has done, not what we have done. That is preaching the New Covenant. Problem is, most of the time, preaching everywhere is what we must still do about Salvation when it's suppose to be "already done", nothing more to complete what Christ has finished. The problem with the body of Christ today is that many preachers still preaches uncertainty in the sense that you'll never know if you make it to heaven. That I can assure is not from God but understanding born out of the fears of Man. God never instituted this sort of fear. Well I"m here and (hopefully, Pehkay too) to encourage everyone that our God is a God of certainty in assuring us Salvation. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 2 2016, 10:08 PM |
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 2 2016, 10:03 PM) Well my BM isn't the best so here goes. I think technically, Salvation of the Body is yet to be achieved but the Salvation of the Spirit has been given by God through his Son Jesus Christ.taruk = put (object) location kau kau = referring to a person I have no idea what that BM phrases mean. So I read this Bible summary about Corinthians. The spirit of independent thinking emphasized so strongly by the Greeks evidently was influencing the Corinthian Christians. Paul's manner of dealing with the problem is noteworthy. He does not insist that all members of the community should think alike on every subject, nor does he advocate that someone with authority should tell others what to believe. What he does insist on is a unity of spirit and purpose that will allow each group to learn from the others. Paul's account of the resurrection enables us to see how his view differed from those of the ancient Greeks and also from the view found in certain portions of the Old Testament. The Greeks believed in the doctrine of the soul's immortality. According to this doctrine, souls do not have a beginning or an end. They are eternal realities capable of existing apart from the bodies in which they were incarnated. This view was contrary to the Hebrew conception, which viewed man as a single unit including body, soul, and spirit; the soul was not something that existed apart from the body. After death, all went down to Sheol, a cavern below the earth, but no memory or consciousness of any kind attended this state of existence. In contrast to these views, Paul believed in a genuine resurrection from physical death in which a person's individuality and moral worth would be preserved. But this preservation was not to be a reanimation of the corpse and a continuation of life as it had been before. Flesh and blood, Paul tells us, will not inherit God's kingdom. The body that is raised will not be the natural body but rather a spiritual body. Paul does not tell us what this spiritual body will be like, but he is sure that it will be a body of some kind, for the personality includes body, soul, and spirit, and salvation is not achieved until all three have been transformed together. The Gnostics of Paul's day, who believed that only spirit is good and that all matter is evil, taught that Jesus did not possess a physical body but only appeared to do so. For Paul, this position was untenable: Unless Jesus possessed a body in common with other human beings, his triumph over evil would have no significance for humans. Jesus' resurrection means a triumph of the entire personality over the forces of evil; what it means for Jesus it also means for all those who put their trust in him. http://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/n/ne...d-2-corinthians |
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 2 2016, 10:18 PM) And its given free to us. Because God gave us victory through Jesus Christ. Such a wonderful blessing from God yet so many failed to see it. QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 2 2016, 10:25 PM) In my understanding from going to various churches in Malaysia, some preachers preached "fear / false" doctrines. And yet at the time we need to extend grace and be patience and not allow emotion to get the better of us towards people in leadership, in the pulpit, etc.The same goes in overseas churches too. Some even allowed copulation and cohabitation before marriage. sheesh.. Doesn't matter what we feel is right, still need to respect them. Hard to live this life Christ has called us to. To be at peace with everyone and to love our enemies...phew. This only tells me one thing. Only God alone is the rightful judge and executor. We cannot take that role. Our Role is to pray and exhibit Christ. |
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