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post Dec 9 2015, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 9 2015, 04:54 PM)
Then why would you bother giving me the green light when I have already hinted that my take on the video is not necessarily in favour to the Bible?

If you decided to proceed with the 'proof by assertion' fallacy, i.e. "because the Bible said so", then it would be natural to only think that you, and the rest of the ones here will be happy to be completely ignorant of the questions presented. As such, allow me to ask you again, this time, rephrased differently?

Would you give me the green light to comment on the video as shown by Sophiera with my opinions and questions which may not necessarily in favor with the Bible, and in addition, possibly questioning the moral fibre and rationale of what it is written in the Bible itself? If not, how open minded must you be, before even considering giving me the green light?

If you answer 'no' to both questions, then I'm afraid that it is only obvious to be ignored by a group that refused to open their minds accordingly in order to inquire what it means to believe in the Bible, and equally, what it also means to disbelief it.
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Let me put this in a simple way why you are so Ironic. In favour or not in favour of the Bible, it's alright, most questions that comes in from outside is usually unfavourable.


You can and did asked us "why" in the Bible is this and this and that......we explain "why" according to the Bible. (that is the green light given)

now You're saying why should the Bible be the truth. (that is something we don't want to argue about with non believers)


hallo....what Thread is this? Obviously that's something that doesn't need any explanation. We are christian of course we believe in the Bible as the Truth.


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We will explain what we can but If you want to ask why you should believe in what our Bible says or explains, that is something I won't force, it's something you have take it up on your own.
I won't force it down your throat if you don't believe the Bible as the Ultimate Truth as how we believe it as the only Truth.

How is it that you cannot understand this simple irony?

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post Dec 9 2015, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 8 2015, 06:37 PM)
But then I realized something fundamentally wrong, no need to confess sins? I thought this was stated in the bible, we must confess our sins to allow Holy Spirit to work in us.

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I would like to try this one more time.

Bear in mind the purpose why I share this... (even all these while) is to get out of the cycle of sin NOT to continue in it.

The Bible says that Sin shall not have dominion over us for we are not under Law but Grace..(Bear with me..) (Romans 6:14 (KJV) - For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
As a Christian, you do not want Sin to have dominion over you right? Then we need to apply the right principal according to God's word which tells us the answer to not let Sin have Dominion is Grace according to Romans 6:14.

If we keep on confessing that we're still sinner then that's what we are because the Law condemns sinners. The Bible says we are transformed by the renewing of our mind. (Romans 12:2)
I believe the reason why we are stuck and keep on repeating the act of sinning because that's what we confess ourselves to be (A Sinner).


If we keep on confessing that we are righteous in Christ Jesus because of his finished work (That is Grace) then I believe the Holy Spirit goes into work transforming our life and enabling us to do what is right.
Because that is what we confess to be.

We cannot be both a Sinner and a Saint at the time time. New Wine cannot be poured into old wine skin, it will ferment and break the skin. (Matthew 9:17)

You cannot have both. The Book of proverbs after all said, the power of life and death is in your tongue.



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post Dec 9 2015, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 9 2015, 07:59 PM)
Was geht ab?

Example below -

English                                           |Bavarian                                                  |German

Hello                                                          |  Grias di                                                          |    Hallo / Guten tag

Good morning                                            |  Guad moang                                                  |    Guten morgen

My name is.............                                  |  I hoas...........                                                  |    Ich heiße...............

How do you do?                                        |  Wia gehds da?                                                |  Wie geht?

I have beautiful eyes                                |  Ich hast wünderschöne augen                      |  Ich habe schöne augen
Auf Wiedersehen..
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Wie schöne augen ?

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post Dec 9 2015, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 9 2015, 08:55 PM)
hehe...

Aber nur wenige haben so schöne augen wie du.

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Oh mein
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post Dec 9 2015, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 9 2015, 10:09 PM)
Actually i still unsure if u r on the side of ncc or not
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I think they're ok, along with City Harvest.

In Fact, Even I think DUMC is ok or Glads Tiding, Luther Church, Baptist Church.

All of them belongs to God as the Head. I don't take sides.


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post Dec 9 2015, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 9 2015, 09:46 PM)
Oh mein gott.

Du hast offenbar einen ausgeprägten sinn für gerechtigkeit.
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Ich dachte, wir reden über die Augen sprechen
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post Dec 9 2015, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 9 2015, 11:08 PM)
Ich genoss es dabei, wie im ein cooler lehrer.  tongue.gif
Ach nein!

Ich dachte mir im stillen.

Reden wir nicht mehr davon.

Ich müsste mit Mr. Harry unter vier augen sprechen

Was Gott zusammengefügt hat, soll der mensch nicht scheiden.
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Wer ist Mr. Harry?


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post Dec 9 2015, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 9 2015, 11:30 PM)
Zum Beispiel.
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ich bin verloren..lol.
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post Dec 10 2015, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(VinniJeyaa @ Dec 10 2015, 12:00 AM)
Titus 3:9 NKJV - But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless 😇
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Hi, Do you celebrate Christmas?
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post Dec 10 2015, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(VinniJeyaa @ Dec 10 2015, 12:49 AM)
Yes I do.  rclxms.gif What about you?
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Come to Calvary on 19 & 20 Dec. We have Christmas Musical.


Yeah I do.
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post Dec 10 2015, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 10 2015, 01:30 PM)
I dont either.

But i don't think going to a church that cuts corner in god's word is right for me.
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Relax la Bro.

Don't be bitter in life.
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post Dec 10 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 10 2015, 04:22 PM)
I am not bitter with NCC. Its just that i looking for a way out of dummmccc but everywhere is the same. At first NCC looks promising but when i heard abt some discrepancies i bcame cautious.
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It's almost the same everywhere.

Don't look for change..be the change.

Take up the challenge by exhibiting all that Christ wants you to be.

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post Dec 11 2015, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 11 2015, 12:20 AM)
Ok maybe Christian church members (or non members) are not someone we ought them to be because we are all just humans with natural flaws (to begin with).

Changing church does not necessarily help though.

Maybe UW and pehkay can share their views since they are both elder statemen. hehe...
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The thing about Kron..is that If He himself tap into God as the source of strength and reliance, he won't have all these issues.

But that's a common problem with the Body of Christ. Most people rely and look to Church leaders.

Can I advise all you guys in here? ALL Church leaders have flaws. You have to learn and accept that.

Whichever Church you go to, PLEASE don't look up to a Human Leader so much. By that I don't mean that you become uncooperative and rebellious as well.
Learn to work with Grace in Church and try to submit to their leadership because God is the one who appoints them.

That's why the Bible says ...whatever you do, do it for the Lord. That's why you need abundant of Grace from God and to Man.

The only person you should Look up to is Jesus Christ. Him and ONLY Him alone. Tapping into God first and foremost is far more important as the initial step to solve this.When you have a very close relationship with God, Love will be natural and you will love your Church Leaders with Grace and Patience and will not have problem submitting to their authority.

Right Now Kron, I think your rebellious nature dominating you that is one issue you need to get God to help you.

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post Dec 13 2015, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 12 2015, 01:02 PM)
I'm not sure how you came up with "irony" to describe the situation when I am only questioning the problem of what constitutes as good and bad by completely ignoring the fact that we no longer associate ourselves with the barbarism as shown in the Bible itself. If I have a Cthulhu book that says murdering infants is a good thing, will you be able to accept my standard of what constitutes as "good" is I also were to say, I am merely following the book? How then, will we able to discern of whether if the Bible and the book of Cthulhu will be worthy of following in order to determine ethics?
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Actually No,

The reason why things happened the way it happened under the Old Testament it's because we're the one who asked for it.

God is not at fault here.

As Christians...We don't totally ignore it, you use the word disassociate but we learn and understand why. That is a misconception.

Anyway...This revelation of why is not for you anyway. To be honest I did not want to engage this with you because you won't understand and it will be a waste of time.

We won't force you or anyone to believe the Bible, if you or anyone don't want to. That is not the Green Light given, you misunderstood me. The Green was given to you for you to learn, not dictate to us what you think.

This goes to your other thread as well. I will stop because I don't want to argue with you. I don't believe in Scientific or Critical argument as a suitable way to discover God. It never was and will never be. To know God you just have to study Jesus Christ and start by the way of Faith. From there God will reveal himself. God has already provided a way to know Him, it's so simple really but problem is, you want to carve your own way..thinking that it will work.

You will search in vain, any other way. You can continue to blabber on alone if you don't agree, maybe I should be more clear what I mean by green Light: Until and Unless you want to learn from us and not tell us what you think should be right of the Bible, you can look to others to talk to. This is after Christian Fellowship thread designed for christians to fellowship and to answer curiosity of our Faith. not a place to argue who is wrong or right.

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post Dec 14 2015, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 14 2015, 04:06 PM)
While the motivation behind the barbaric acts could possibly be a good thing, but does it justify the methods that were used?

Say, for example, if it is your fault that you have lose my keys, wouldn't it natural to think that it would be too extreme for me to dismember your hands as a form of response?
Not exactly. While it is true that both Christians and non-Christians have studied the bible, my point here of not being associated with the barbaric acts in the bible means that we are no longer PRACTICING nor even ADVOCATING such violence in our everyday lives today. it's not a misconception if you and I can agree that the violent acts in the bible are considered as barbaric.

That is, unless you do not view upon it as barbaric? How would you define such horrifying acts then? Do you NOT call them, horrifying, just so you may justify it as "because it is humanity's fault?"
I'm sure you won't, nor did I ever shown any signs of being forced to believe in anything anyway. But you may be inaccurate about the part of me using the green light to "dictate to people of what I think". That did not happen. What I've done so far are just asking questions, because something didn't seemed quite right. At the end of the day, they're only questions, not claims, nor ultimatums.
It's not so much whether if God can, or could not be discovered by thinking rationally, it's about whether if we wish to think rationally or not. If you have decided to think rationally for a specific issue in life, be it groceries and career choices, why wouldn't, or rather why, should you not be allowed, or even attempt to do the same for the issue of god? The fact that you're allowed to think, betrays your need for faith, because like most people, no matter what your faith may be, you still decided to lock your doors, because you have chose to think of it rationally.
Like I've mentioned earlier, I did not claim that "my way", or any other way to be the truth. I was merely asking questions.

It is religion itself that claimed to have the truth. I did not do this.

Religion claims to be the ultimate truth.

I ask questions.

Two completely different things.

If you cannot agree of me doing such things, then you shouldn't have gave me the green light?

Would you rather kick me out instead, in the spirit of Christianity?
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Totally unrelated examples, can't help you there.

Told you...you wouldn't understand. What you call locked doors..we call it Faith in a Living God, who actually responds back.

I've already explained to you what I meant by green light. You want to learn something from us, can. You want to question our Faith which can lead to arguments..No.

Yes, will kick you out because we do not want arguments in here. Else you have RWI to satisfy your needs.



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post Dec 15 2015, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 14 2015, 05:39 PM)
Yes. Kick me out because Christians can never be open-minded to handle any questions (I know, I was once a Christian myself).
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Already explained to you. All the terrible things that happened in the Old Testament is because of the vanity of Man.

We're the one who asked for it. It happened at Mount Sinai when Israel agreed to be subjected to the Laws of God. That was the problem.

You can quote infants murdered, bears mauling kids..whatever..it all falls under this explanation.

Now with that being said, We don't force people to believe the Gospel or the Bible. We only share accordingly. At the end of the day, only God has the power and patience to change a person's heart.

As Christian we are called to avoid all sort of arguments that will lead to nowhere because, if you don't want to listen, you won't. When you're ready, you will come willingly.

But if you think you can use this as a way to influence me to think like you, because it's "critical thinking" or "scientific" way to know God, you can forget it, doesn't work on me. We will stop here. Don't think you can trick me or twist my arm by using guilt. What you call as not being open minded to discuss I call it don't waste life precious time arguing with people. It is very stupid.

I'm way passed beyond that. LASTLY...take this with you, you want to know God, get to know Jesus, study him in the gospel. I won't repeat this again if you're going to blabber on in sections.
But if you want to know what's with the vanity of Man with regards to the Laws of God that have caused so much death...that I can continue on the condition, you just listen and don't ask stupid questions which makes no sense like the ones in your other thread.

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post Dec 15 2015, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Dec 15 2015, 09:38 AM)
Of course.

1 Thessalonians 5:21

You TEST everything. And to not question is NOT to hold on everything that is good.
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1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 (NIV)
20 Do not treat prophecies with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 reject every kind of evil.

The word "but" there connects "Testing" with regards to Prophecies or if you want to broaden that context, test everything to make sure it doesn't contradict the word of God as the Basis.

Not other sort of testing.

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post Dec 16 2015, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 15 2015, 09:34 PM)
I know the familiar edict that tells us to look to God n not to men. But to me its just church excuse to play politics n not improve itself. Its a ploy by the leaders to make us subservient n serve till we drop.

Obey without question if question kena boikot. I feel like i am in an umnno AGM.

Duummmccc not 100% bad...i hv been to a church chariiss when i was youth...i felt badly mistreated there. Some days i wish people will realize how bad that chirch is n start leaving until it close down.

I known some guys at duuummmccc believing that utter obedience to church...they will receive blessings...but yr after yr...i only see them suffer...loss jobs...painful break ups...serve all their time burn out..face church politics...no time for rships...still single...not enough money...debilitating illnesses

They still claim they joy joy but at same time praying for career...for life partner..50 yo

The church has restricted them opportunity to build career n fond life partner thru their rules.
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Bro if you harbor this bitter spirit, you'll always look things negatively.

Usually this is intricately link to an unforgiving spirit.

Perhaps you may want to consider you have this challenge?
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post Dec 16 2015, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Dec 16 2015, 08:08 AM)
Its something no one can avoid. I seen christians who argue with each other claim they forgave n confessed their sins but at end of day...when the bro or sis in christ they r at war with invute them for open house or wedding..they retaliate by not attending.

Its just another way to just put in words but their heart atill burn with unhappiness woth one another.
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Doesn't matter about other people, this thing still grips you so you still have to consider its effect on your life.

You'll be stuck in this cycle of being bitter your whole life if you don't come to terms to forgive one another.

It's not about avoiding but letting go something that's eating you inside. It's not good for you and as far as I understand unforgiveness..it can affect your physical health.

God loves you enough that He doesn't want you to hold on to something that can destroy you. That is why he asks all of us to forgive.

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post Dec 16 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(skydrake @ Dec 16 2015, 02:30 PM)
i had this experience before, I was like blind or everything I see's only negative things and the power getting stronger and stronger until I can't even grip on. It force me to letting it go and don't care what happen next since nothing is worst than what I had. I prayed and say "If it was worse until I can't even breath, so be it but this is not my request of life and I'm force until it so just be it. I will not using my own choice to end my life unless God decide to." After it, everything goes well and I got to see's back blue sky with rainbow. I'm not telling story but it's what had happened to me.
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Yup. God wants us to be at rest and in peace.



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