I believe what God says about prayers. You can pray to God to sanctify all your food and drinks.

Don't do it ritualistically. Do it because you know God loves you and would want the best health there is for your life.

Next time, tell them this.

Jesus didn't mind a prostitute anoint and touch him with perfume and hair.

Tell them in that day and age how prostitute dress. If they think it's sack cloth, how gravely mistaken they are.

I'm not bothered la these day.

If our Faith depends on what people say rather than what God says and how we apply what God says to know the truth, it only means our focus is not right.

Listen guys. When you have tasted the Lord..all these you know for sure are Counterfeits.

I'm just giving you some tips here.

But if really anyone want me or either pehkay to debunk whatever that is said, maybe somebody can give a brief summary....

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Okay, I've seen the video and I think I did explained this before.

They did not understand why there's OT and what they quoted about Woman in there is definitely out of context.

And I don't say this as a convenient way to brush off an explanation. Already explained this 4-5 times already I think.

The Subject of Woman is in the context of Husband and Wife. The Husband is the head of the Household.

In this context when you're in public, the wife needs to safeguard the entire family integrity as a whole. Scolding your husband in public is really an unpleasant view even from public's pov.

Therefore with regards to this, She needs to know when to be silent and when to speak out at the right time.

With regards to this Paul instruct the Woman to be silent and not to teach her leader which is her husband.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 7 2015, 03:50 PM

There's nothing under the sky that's not been discussed that's not in favour of the Bible.

And likewise there's nothing that's not been discuss that we have not given an answer.

If the attacks against Christianity are getting stronger it only means that's a sign that the day is coming nearer.

If you think DUMC is bad, you probably haven't seen pure methodist Churches. lol. The Sunday Sermons focus a lot on Man, what we should do or don't do.

Haih, when is the Church going to learn, the ministry of the Law will kills.


2 conditions

1. Keep it short. I mean really short n summarized.
2. Respect our doctrine, don't change or enforce the world or unbelievers opinion of the Bible as the correct interpretation.

A forum member by the name of Loud did that and to us it was heresy. He has absolutely no right to define what the Bible says as unbeliever.

As expected.

Understand that under the OT, every sins committed were judged then and there, sometimes later but inevitably is still judged because we asked for it. The Covenant.

God view Sin from eternal pov.....as it is. There's no degree.

We do not flinch if a criminal is hanged or punished but we complained When God metes out Judgement who knows everything that we don't and who knows better.

That's how self righteous we can get. I point that to myself as well.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 8 2015, 11:02 AM

I think Bible study preached on Sunday is okay and it is important but there is a need to properly divide the word by bringing the revelation of Jesus out of those study.

If if it's just preaching of the Law, What Thou Shall do and What thou shall not, then it's an empty Gospel. But I'm not in DUMC, hence I reserve my comments.

It's quite normal actually to plan and strategize how to share the gospel in CG. Problems is actually an opportunity for you to exhibit Christ, dude.

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There's a huge misunderstanding on this.

Allow me to explain, I expect some backlash but it's okay, I got to learn patience and grace towards others. Pehkay have demonstrated this grace towards others far better than I have.

Read the entire chapter of Hebrews 10 for proper understanding.

It's not a waiver but to understand Christ's work on the cross is not temporal but once and for all never to repeated again (Christ's work). That is what it means in

Hebrews 10:10 (NIV) - And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Hebrews 10:12 (NIV) - But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
Hebrews 10:14 (NIV) - For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.


We can continually confess our sins, (I do that as well sometime) but I also know I'm forgiven not primarily because of my act of confession but because of God's grace and the work of his Son, Jesus..that is something God sees and recognize judicially.

There nothing wrong with it, You can confess if you want... but to say that our status with God changes so quickly makes short of Christ's Work and kind of hypocritical because....

When we were sinners, we Christian teach people that no amount of good deeds that we performance can change our status as a sinner trying to convince them that they need Christ as saviour to be saved and yet commit a double jeopardy by saying after being saved by Christ we can be made righteous and be made sinners depending on our acts ....within minutes making Christ work to be temporal forgiveness and incomplete.

That is something I find problematic and is not consistent with what God says. I view Christ's work as perfect and finished. And if I say and believe in that, then it's reasonable to believe we are made saints by the blood and thus should walk in the view of that light even though we may fall from time to time. That to me takes Faith and I see that is how God sees it when he says..the Righteous shall live by Faith.

Romans 4:17 (KJV) after all says
(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

We can continue in PM..I think I've open some cans already.....

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 8 2015, 03:02 PM

The Apostle Paul was sent primarily to witness to the Gentiles whereas the rest of the apostles Like the Apostle John was sent to witness primarily to the Jews.

So when John wrote 1 John 1:9, it's primarily for the Jews and for the rest of the Unbelievers.

Before accepting Christ, you need to admit you're a sinner.

but after accepting Christ, if you still admit you're sinner, in essence you're saying Christ's Blood did not cleanse you once and for all. You make short of the work of Christ.

Now with that being said, I didn't say you cannot confess your sins but once you understand this revelation, you'll begin to understand why God says in this:

Hebrews 10:23 (KJV) - Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)


The Word profession there is Confession. What does this mean?

It simply means we are to hold fast the confession of our Faith in Christ's redeeming work (not your works) without wavering even when you fail or fall.
Because if Salvation depends on your confession of sins then you negate the entire Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

I find that to be very Biblical and powerful, spiritually.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 9 2015, 09:29 AM

I think this is where we all miss it and don't understand.

If Salvation depends on our act of obedience implying that you get Salvation by what you do, you negate the entire meaning of Grace of the Gospel and you also negate the purpose Christ came.

Maybe I can rephrase this;

If Salvation depend on our act of "not sinning" we negate the entire meaning of Grace of the Gospel and we also negate the purpose Christ Came.

We are back to the Old Testament Covenant of by what we do or don't do.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 9 2015, 02:05 PM

Dude, you are asking us. We are explaining to you from Bible's POV.

Are you confused? This is not RWI where it's based on "universal doctrine".

I think you better take some break.

It's obvious...you don't realize you're asking in a Christian Fellowship Thread.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 9 2015, 02:59 PM

It's alright then, don't think u understand what I wrote.

I also told you the conditions. Don't change or impose what you think about our doctrine.

You're now imposing something we don't subscribe to.

Because duh....what thread do you think this is?