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Nov 27 2015, 06:38 PM
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Nov 28 2015, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(luxollidd @ Nov 28 2015, 08:02 AM) not a christian, just curious about the church music they play, Hymn or modern contemporary?i heard it once before, asked my friend about it, didn't quite catch what she said, but its something like "orgall? orgyll?" but not organ. but it definitely sounds like organ. any thoughts? I mean it sounds like an old hymn or modern contemporary? This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 28 2015, 09:39 AM |
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Nov 29 2015, 11:18 PM
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Hey guys, take a listen to his testimony. very powerful testimony and very real and down to earth. Seems that God can use broken people more than people who thinks they have it all together. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 30 2015, 12:06 AM |
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Dec 1 2015, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 1 2015, 01:14 AM) QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 1 2015, 01:14 AM) QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 1 2015, 01:14 AM) Triple Anointing on your life. |
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Dec 1 2015, 09:59 AM
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Bible Devotion
Being at Rest QUOTE John 14:27 (NIV) - Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid. Hi Guys, How are you doing? This will be a series, that will follow up from some of the revelations I've been receiving while reading the Bible. I believe, one of the way to know of whether you're walking in the light of Christ (1 John 1:7) is whether you are at rest (in peace) despite of of your imperfection or you're still struggling to be at rest with God. It's important to know this, really because when you are rest, you live in the covenant of God's Grace of the New Testament. When you are still struggling to be at rest, you put yourself under the Covenant of The Law of the Old Testament even though it is no longer in effect for you but because you put yourself under it, the devil goes to work wreaking havoc to confuse your spirit man. Why you can be at rest despite of your imperfection? Because Grace means something you've been given that you don't earn by your efforts, works, performance. This is something to be received freely with no strings attached! When you know that and embrace this truth in practicality, your spirit will be at rest. Why you aren't at rest? Because Law demands that you still need to perform to earn that rest. If you embrace that, you will always be in this struggle. When God helped me to realize this, it just renew the revelation, something I already knew and yet it never fail to amaze and refresh... I mean wow. I believe we need to be reminded of this truth over and over again, even though we think we know it. Why this is important..because when you are not at rest, the amount of noise generated from your struggling dampens your spiritual hearing and this will cause you to eventually be distracted to many other things. I hope you receive this in the spirit and start to look to Christ and be at rest. Talk to me if you need help. God Bless. |
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Dec 1 2015, 09:23 PM
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Dec 3 2015, 09:31 AM
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Talking about culture wise, it's not an issue. Don't have to argue until it becomes an issue.
Maybe because I've lived passed the age if discovering identity crisis, hence I don't really care but some of you are still in the discovery process of life so it matters to you. For Christians, our identity is tied to Christ, be it American culture, Asian culture, does not matter. What matter is that our foundation is based on Love. And that transcends all culture. |
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Dec 3 2015, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(LaVilla. @ Dec 3 2015, 12:48 PM) Dear fellow friends, Look and understand this from a bigger picture. Because It is always the case when questions like this are asked, the whole counsel of the Bible is ignored particularly, The New Testament. First of all, I am sorry if what I am asking are consider rude or insensitive. I have been told by my malay colleague that in bible itself contains verses about eating pork, as in God himself forbid us to eat pork just like in Islam. Was flabbergasted by that, so I went to google and have a look and indeed found quite some verses about this. So i was wondering, how come Christians people consume pork when it's stated clearly that god forbid us to eat pork. Leviticus 11:7-8 And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you. Isaiah 66:17 “Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one in the midst, eating pig's flesh and the abomination and mice, shall come to an end together, declares the Lord. Again, i am sorry if what I asked, were indeed insensitive Let me start by saying The Old Testament MUST be understood in the Light of the New Testament. This is something that cannot be argued or reasoned with. Else it is pointless and meaningless. It is not rude or insensitive but lack of complete knowledge. Do you know, God himself made a profound statement in Acts 10:15 (NLT) - But the voice spoke again: "Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean." Peter was referring to unclean animals as you mentioned in leviticus. This has to do with pork as well. Then we need to understand, why is there a New Testament and the Old? Why is it that Old Forbid but in The New Testament even Jesus says it is not the food that you eat that makes you unclean (referring to the above scriptures that you mentioned) but your heart, what comes out of your mouth, you defile yourself with the intent. Jesus gave a revelation here the work of "sin", one that is internal and it's not in the food and yet in the Old Testament, there are so many Laws, Rules and Regulations, Rituals pertaining to outward things that causes Sin even like Dead Bodies, you cannot touch them, if you do, you'll be unclean. And yet today, love ones who have passed away...we can touch them and it is not sinful. Like for example, a father who holds his dead son/daughter in his arm for the last time. Of course Chinese culture have this ceremony to clean himself when doing this by bathing in water soaked with some sort of leave. Christians..we just bathe as normal. Why the difference? If you have spiritual eyes and ear to hear and see this; You'll come to realize that The Old Testament is in away for God let Man know we have problem in justifying ourselves because of Sin. We are too stubborn to acknowledge or accept that. We want to justify ourselves because the flesh in us, want self glorification. So for 2 thousand years God allow Man to have his way with the Laws and yet there is not one who can uphold all the laws completely. Some may be able to do it outwardly but unable internally. You should ask a better question; what is the purpose of the Law? In a very summarise answer, the Law is given to let us know we have Sin. That is the "only" purpose..no other purpose. If there are Christians who tells you we must uphold to the Law so as not to defile ourselves, tell him to read the Book of Galatians. That was never the purpose. The Bible even calls the Ten Commandments a Ministry of "death", not life. That is why any religion that still holds on to Law Base have so much problems in this world today. particularly you friends religion that you mentioned above. If you understand Romans 14, it is not so much about whether a pig is unclean or a dog is unclean. It depends on what God says is unclean and you are to follow through under the Old Covenant, because it can be a kangaroo or an donkey per say. Everything hinges back to what God says. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 3 2015, 03:47 PM |
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Dec 3 2015, 02:02 PM
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One more thing..LaVilla.
Read Romans 14:1-9 1 Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. 2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. 4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. 5 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. 6 Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. 7 For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. 8 If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. |
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Dec 3 2015, 09:46 PM
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Dec 4 2015, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 3 2015, 10:43 PM) Whoa, this is the first time I've heard about the symbolic significance of forbidden food. I agree with Pehkay, it is symbolic but it may also not be the reason of hygiene...though of course this is how we concluded though not recorded in the Bible as the reason.Most of the time I hear it's because they're unsanitary. Which is true: those food sources are dangerous to be eaten especially in those times. Wild non-cud chewing animals can have pretty bad parasites. Mollusks are filters and the water quality of accessible places, really kotor. Frogs and other amphibians may eat toxic insects. Carrion eaters, 'nuff said. They're the DBKL of nature. Sure a health hazard. Do you remember, there's a story of where God send Ravens to Feed the Prophet Elijah? (1 Kings 17:6) How clean is that? I mean bread in the mouth of Raven and pass on to Human mouth? And Yet God fed Elijah that way. as Far as I understand birds, they have very viscous saliva. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 4 2015, 09:19 AM |
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Dec 4 2015, 09:12 AM
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Dec 4 2015, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Dec 3 2015, 10:13 PM) I collectively lump in Church culture and Church tradition to be almost the same thing.For example, some Christians refuse to worship God in a building that doesn't look like a Church. or that Christian must have a certain kind of look and clothing or should only listen to hymns, modern contemporary are the works of the devil. Because of Church traditions and culture, some Christians are willing to go as far as calling Hillsong Worship as the Babylonian Whore. And this coming from Christians. I know there's a American Chinese Pastor who wear Flip Flop on purpose and preach every Sunday just to prove this point. The Problem with this is that it Hinders the Spirit of God to reach out to the Lost. I'm willing to bet with you, if a Prostitute with Low Mini Skirt walks into a Tradition Church, All Eyes would be open wide in contempt and the feeling of uncomfortable and first reaction is to escort her out to stop from distracting Sunday Service when the Church SHOULD BE reaching out to them. I seriously feel the Catholics and Some Protestant Church have this self righteous problem. This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 4 2015, 09:26 AM |
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Dec 4 2015, 01:10 PM
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Dec 4 2015, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 01:20 PM) I just wana to have a peace prayer btwn god n me..tats wai wake early daily no no...that's something good. Dun worry about it.I dun drv.....makes me more frust n nearer to the satan Not many Christians that I know of does that nowadays.. Waking Early to Pray is very powerful. Yea about driving...every Christians have that challenge. I think malaysian in general can bcome monsters behind the wheel at times. |
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Dec 4 2015, 01:44 PM
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Dec 4 2015, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 01:44 PM) The Christian life is not so much about Law..what you can do or cannot do that will commit sin.It has to do with how you threat people. I mean Jesus was very concern on that. In real life or forum is the same. |
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Dec 4 2015, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 01:54 PM) Well, if he can take it as a joke, I think it's alright. Wanie404 always says bodo to almost everyone, I don't get angry when he/she says it to me.but if the person you feel has taken offense then we just back off and stop lor. Jesus says 1 thing very profound. If you let Love be the foundation of your life, all these rules laws does not matter. |
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Dec 4 2015, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(cute_miao @ Dec 4 2015, 02:12 PM) Tq for the enlightenment. The purpose of going to Church is to hear God speak through his word and to be encouraged, be blessed and be whole as how God wants you have life.Felt sorry to myself as i stop going to church for merely 5monts. I am just too busy with my phd classes on weekends saturday n sunday frm 3pm to 10pm (sat) and 8am to 3pm (sun), then after need to stayback for thesis discussion Going to Church does not earn you any marks in heaven. lol. Neither it is a requirement to for completeness to be a Christian. But it does help when we go to Church. As long you have not given up believing in Christ, you're still his children. |
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Dec 5 2015, 09:38 AM
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