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Okay any Church can donate?

We've been singing that in our Sunday service.

Along with others songs such as the creed by Hillsong as well.

we're trying to balance up New Songs plus old ones n maybe hymns once in awhile.

I always wanted to experience Hillsong worship experience 6-7 years ago. Now I get to do that in our Church.

I just ignore the crowd, the hype, the Hillsong ish music and everything and just worship God. It's really exuberating because God answered my "this" prayer. He knows my desire to be in crowds of multitude lifting our hands in a hillsong-ish atmosphere.

ha ha.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 23 2015, 11:50 AM

30 Min is pretty standard, even mine is 30 minutes. We don't practice liturgist in my church. We flow with the Spirit as He leads.

Many times worshiping in tongues in between worship. At times we speak in tongues awaiting God to speak through one of the worshipers.

We emphasize a lot in being lead by the HS.

Then we have sermon, then sometime benediction then announcement then finish.

Matters like this falls under

"all things are permissible" bible verse.

worship songs that u sing in church, service format.

Bible Devotion

Still uncertain you belong to God and Heaven?



Some years ago, even though I have accepted the Lord in the 90's, because I have backslided in the early 2000's because of family persecution, I lived a life
that has caused me to be uncertain of my Salvation. Even when I came back to the Lord with fire in my heart after that few years, there was still this uncertainty that caused me to doubt.

I was searching for an answer and God send this RHEMA verse to me.

Ezekiel 34:31 NIV - You are my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, and I am your God, declares the Sovereign LORD

Oh how comforting it is to hear God himself assuring me of my doubt and uncertainty.

I AM HIS sheep, the sheep of HIS PASTURE! And He is my GOD!

Some pastors preached that when you have doubt, it caused God to distance himself from you. I find that not to be true.
When you come to God even in doubt, He will answer you! He will never leave you nor forsake you. We NEED to come to God especially in times of failure and disappointment and not run away from Church.


Those who like me are uncertain about their own salvation, I encourage you to take a look at this verse and digest it in your heart. Perhaps you once been to Church and you have heard the gospel message but you fell away, perhaps you ran away even...know that God is still looking for you, not willing to lose you.

I'm a classic example for those who have fallen away and yet is an example of God's GRACE.

Let me explain what it means. In the Christian circle, it has been taught, only when you get all your act all together and correct then God will hear you and answer your prayer.

But that is not what the Bible teach.

See this bible verse with your heart open without any prejudice.

Romans 4:5 - However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

Do you see the word "the ungodly" there? Do you know what it means in context? If only you knew this truth, it will empower you "the ungodly" to stay close with God. When you dare come close to God, chains will be broken loose!

Yes you see it right and you heard it right. God justify the Ungodly not the Godly. So if you think you have fallen away and belongs to the ungodly camp, you are in the right company!

I never trusted my works or effort in trying to please God. Never. Because I know I'm not consistent. I never trusted my obedience as a way to get God's favor. NEVER! because that is not what the Bible teaches under the New Covenant. I trust completely in what is said in Romans 4:5. And because of that, God in his grace brought forth Ezekiel 34:31 to those who are willing to trust completely in God and not in their self or their own efforts.

You will see and understand this is consistent throughout the New Covenant. Under the Old, Yes you need to depend on your effort as justification but no more under the New. Why Because God has declare

"The Righteous shall live by Faith". Faith in a God who will deliver, Faith in a God who heals and Love. Faith that brings glory to God.

Today, You are my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, and I am your God, declares the Sovereign LORD!

God Bless.

Well eventually everyone will have to know, it's better to know earlier so that we can grab hold of the truth and learn how allow God to break chains from our lives.

This passage that you're talking about in

Romans 2:12-16 (NIV)
12 All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. 14(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.) 16 This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


Is not for us. It is for people who refuse to accept Christ as their savior. For those who are saved by Jesus, you are saved and kept by Jesus! This letter was towards the jews who have rejected the messiah. Paul was trying to explain that if you want to be judged by the Law then that is the clause. You obey it, you'll be declare righteous, else you'll be judged for every sin you commit against the Law.

How do I know this is for the Jews? Paul address it in verse 17 of the same chapter.

Romans 2:17 (NIV)
Now you, if you call yourself a Jew......


Sophiera, you need to know how to correctly divide the word so that you know which is for the believers and which are for the Non believers, else you'll get confuse.
I don't blame you because traditionally many preachers still preaches from the Old Covenant which is a ministry of death as I have so often mentioned. They want people to constantly feel insecure about their salvation, be unsure, perhaps even to consistently feel condemned with sin with the hope they'll stay humble and wake up.

but that is not what God's way under the New Covenant. He wants us know Grace that has cleansed us of all unrighteousness eternally as the New Covenant that will lead us out and not Sin Consciousness. My Basis for saying this is because Jesus's Blood is not the same as the Blood of Bulls and Goat. It is Holy And ETERNAL Blood.

God Bless.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 28 2015, 08:49 AM

Yea I know what you mean but the thing is

The purpose is not so much to "force" one to believe. God doesn't force anyone. The purpose to let us know how we have fallen and that we need saving.
Once we are made to understand this properly, the next reaction is that you'll be glad that the gospel is preached because you now know there is hope and instead of being angry, you should be appreciated that there is a "Redemptive" God who cares.

So it all boils down really how the message is share, the manner that is shared. Whether it's lead by God's Spirit or by own self "doom n Gloom" sort of Man's preaching.

That is why I'm strong against wrong type of preaching that gives wrong ideas to people who don't understand.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Oct 29 2015, 09:06 AM

Bible Devotion

Ananias and Sapphira



Before I start, I want to state that I believe in the consistency of the Bible, I believe God does not contradict his own words. Neither does God turns back on his words. I take comfort that God means what He says. Because if God can change despite already making a firm promise or contradicts what He says and yet does not honor it, it gives very little reason for anyone to trust a Loving God. I can testify that God is very Graceful and also very Faithful and have never turn on what He has already promised in his word.

I want to share and remove doubts about the understanding of God's word to some Bible difficulties.

Ananias and Sapphira

Some preachers like to harp on this account to scare the living daylight out of believers saying that God can mete out judgement even to believers on the spot.
I want to come on straight by saying, this contradicts the Gospel because if God still punishes Sin and yet Send Jesus to die for our sins it makes no sense. The account of Ananias and Sapphira is that, they're both husband and wife and both died on the spot when they lied to the Church about the sum of money of property sold and given to the Church. So what happened? The answer is this.

Both Ananias and Sapphira are NOT believers. I take comfort that this account really did happen because it shows me God protects his own people from dishonest people. What is so wrong with what they did anyway UW? After all aren't they doing a good thing, donating money to the Church? No that is not the point of the story. Dear friends, there are no insignificant details in the Bible, every incident, every gesture has meaning.

During the early Church, the powers and miracles performed by the apostles was so evident, great and inspiring, it influenced many unbelievers to wanted to join as a believer.
Both Ananias and Sapphira Are first and foremost are not believers, So it is not presumptuous to state that they wanted to buy their way into Salvation through money. God would not allowed that. The Salvation of God must come through Free Grace (unearned) and Faith in his only begotten Son Jesus and never through Man's Performance or effort.

In Acts chapter 4, God was working so mightily among the believers that not one of them was in need or in lack. Hence they sold all they had to give to those in need. Ananias and Sapphira must have witnessed that and thought perhaps they can have a share of that miracle promised only to believers.

But UW How do you know they are not believers? The Bible describe them as "a certain Man". Whenever the Bible refers to believers, it is always and usually "dearly beloved" or "Brothers or Sister".


There you have it dear friends. In this account, lies 2 revelation. One is that God protects his own from unscrupulous people and God would not have anyone malign the Grace of our Salvation.
If God has allowed Ananias and Sapphira to live, then contradiction and lies can infiltrate the gospel in the sense that people can buy their way in into the Gospel via their own effort.

God Bless.

A lot of non believers thinks like that even today, thinking it's really about money.

A little bit more explanation on Ananias and Sapphira, the miracle of no lack that's given to the believers who sold all they had was in essence a real miracle just like the miracle of the multiplication of the 5 loaves and 2 fishes and the same miracle happened to Jesus's disciples when Jesus instructed them to carry nothing, not even a small bag to hold things and yet at the end of the day when Jesus asked his disciples, did they lack anything? They answered "None"

Luke 22:35 (NIV) - Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered.

Nobody in their right mind, will sell all they have unless they themselves have seen the manifestation of this miracle, what more unbelievers. They must have really seen it.

Behind all these incident, the moral of the story is that God wants us to look to Him as the source of where we get our things and blessings. He is the one who orchestrate the people, situations around our life to come work together so that we are provided for.

Ananias and Sapphira did not believe that and thus held back some portion of the money, perhaps as "insurance" in case the miracle of providence did not happened for them.

That is another indicator, they are not believers.

Think about it.



Hallo. Hope you don't miss out the next 2 only you come again.


Well I view genetic ailment is also a form of symptoms of generation curse. As believers we can lay claim of God's word, because Jesus bore our curses at the cross, all these can stop because He paid his life to redeemed us. I believe in complete redemption, even curses.

of course natural ailment is natural ailment, I'm talking from spiritual aspect.

Well God wants us to live a good life, Jesus says I've coma that you may have life and life to the fullest.

I don't know what preaching they've heard.

That is preaching the Law. Thou Shall Not. It causes death in people's life. A Ministry of death, that's why your friends didn't understand this.

But the New Covenant is not about "Thou Shall not" referring to Man

because

Jesus came and it's now it's all about I WILL or I AM which refers to God now, no more about Man.

When talking about "I WILL", referring to what God WILL DO not what you as MAN should do.

Those who still preaches the law does not know the Father's Will.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 10 2015, 12:24 AM

For the record, Sophie,

You're no Fool because God already knew we will be persecuted and made the fool for believing in Him.


John 15:18
"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
John 7:7
The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that its works are evil.

John 16:1
"All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.

1 John 3:13 (NIV)
Do not be surprised, my brothers and sisters, if the world hates you.

John 16:33 (NIV)
"I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world."

John 15:25 (NIV)
But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: They hated me without reason.

Who says that?

It occurs in any denomination.

There are even local incidents.

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Peace.

Thank You Jesus

For Unto you a Child is born....

And Unto you a Son is given.....