Is it just me or shipbuilders are now building ships that seems to put emphasis on performance rather than fighting ability?

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 20 2015, 02:23 PM

This LCS trend is a fad created by US navy. There already warships existing, like OPV/corvettes or light frigates that are already doing the LCS's "job" of inshore naval operations with none of the high price tags or unproven tech.

Pro-Russian Ukrainian separatists in Russian 'Flora' summer BDUs arriving at a motor pool for military exercises

Looks like 1990s Russian Army.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 20 2015, 06:45 PM

Two PLAN Type 072 Yuting-class LST in Luyin Naval base, reportedly headed towards South China Sea

lain kali lori depan bawak meriam jangan bawak rapat-rapat ye. Nasib baik tak meletop.

Lai lai cheap sale!

Everything Must Go! Russian Military Announces Massive Sale

Russia's Ministry of Defense has announced an "auction of unseen generosity," and is selling off everything from vintage quilted jackets (popularly called "vatniks") to logistics equipment, tank engines and night vision periscopes, as well as an entire naval vessel (that one is more of a fixer-upper).

Prospective buyers have until June 29 to submit their requests to the Ministry of Defense, and the first auction will take place on July 21 at the Army-2015 convention in Kubinka. Starting prices have yet to be determined for most items. Much of the equipment is from the past 70 years, although one floating workshop was made in 1896.

In addition to the quilted jackets, the military is offering several variations of army boots, 4,242 army greatcoats, and 1,655 general's caps.

Many of the vehicles, including ambulances, trucks and representative-class sedans are from the past 15 years, although most of the specialty vehicles date back to the 1980s. One unique item is a PB-3M railway track layer, which could allow it owners to lay railway tracks to wherever they need to get to.

List of items open for auction (in Russian), sadly no T-72s for sale tho:
List of Russian military assets for auction

Extremely high costs of V-22 Osprey may create stumbling block for further sales



Richard Aboulafia, vice president of analysis at the Teal Group, an aerospace consulting firm, said it is hard to see the V-22 production line moving beyond the early 2020s.

“There are a couple of other customers that might pay the kind of premium we’re talking about here, but not many,” he said.

The premium being paid for a V-22 Osprey is about $70 million per aircraft. What buyers receive in return is speed. The Marine Corps and U.S. Special Operations Command, the program’s first two customers, have a need to transport troops and equipment quickly and at farther ranges than conventional lift helicopters, he said.

According to a 2014 Teal Group report on the V-22, the program in its early years estimated 400 to 600 foreign sales. “That number now looks quite far fetched,” the report said.

Aboulafia said beyond the Japan sale, Israel looks like it may buy about six of the aircraft. South Korea, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar could also buy V-22s. “It’s hard to imagine other customers emerging,” he said.

This is because the so-called “ownership” cost of flying the V-22, which factors in all expenses and divides it by the number of hours the aircraft flies per year, is more than $83,000 per hour, according to Air Force data obtained by the Project on Government Oversight in 2013. A stripped down calculation of flight cost per hour including fuel, personnel costs and such is about $11,000 per hour based on a minimum usage forecast, a 2009 Government Accountability Office report said. That is double what the program originally anticipated, the report said.

Aboulafia said the two manufacturers were never able to bring the aircraft’s costs down significantly to make it attractive to foreign buyers. “The cost curve didn’t move much. … We’re probably not going to do better than we see today. It’s just a difficult and expensive plane to build and clearly an expensive plane to operate and pay for.”

Mind you, this is one of the more older, medium-sized ones in CCG fleet, probably 2,000-3,000 ton-class. The ones they use on Pinoy territory is larger and more advanced, even have helicopter.

But I hear some types of heavier CCG ships are used more often in certain seas. Especially more hostile ones like Japan, Pinoy or Vietnam. For example, the two 12,000 ton CCG ships will mainly be deployed to East China sea and confront the Japanese, who China view as their most capable and dangerous adversary.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 24 2015, 01:02 PM

Haha damn complicated. Why don't they name them after places or famous people like PLA.

LoL, China is literally the 3rd largest country on earth. I'm sure there's enough names of places and famous people for every ship, PLAN or CCG.

Weh?

I thot the BAe hawk was the TUDM replacement for F-5?

Kisah the speed only?

F-5 old design already, I'm pretty sure Hawk is far superior in every respect.

Keep in mind TUDM operates the single-seat light fighter version of the Hawk (Hawk 208) with far better performance, armament and electronics, not the lame two-seater advanced trainer one most people use.



This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 24 2015, 04:21 PM

And 1960s F-5 is better than this how?

huh?
That's a lazy answer...

Anyway, TUDM used F-5 back then because its wat we can afford, so when we are now wealthier and can afford better fighter planes like MiG-29 and Su-25, so what is the point does TUDM need an F-5 replacement would do nowadays? It's not like we can afford better fighters like the ones I mentioned above.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 24 2015, 05:53 PM

Probably not, but thats why planes have flare and chaff dispensers.

Also, by your standards, A-10 would also be an super useless plane because clearly it cannot outrun a MANPADS missile, fire air-to-air missiles or gain air superiority.

OI WAT THE F*CK HAPPEND HERE!!!

Why should replace F-5 with FA-50?
I always thought MiG-29 is the replacement already for the F-5. Is there still need for TUDM to have light fighters since we can already afford some of the more advanced fighters in the world?

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Jun 24 2015, 06:31 PM

Weird, replace A4 Skyhawk ground attack plane with MiG-29 pure fighter?

BAe Hawk 208 more of a light fighter/bomber aircraft, a duty it shares with FA-18. Unlike F-5 which is a pure air superiority fighter.

In TUDM air superiority fighter duties all passed to MiG-29 and Su-30 already. So a replacement for a light air superiority fighter is redundant.