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University About UKM language policy, Can I write my thesis in English?
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TSwonderer79
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May 21 2015, 03:12 PM, updated 11y ago
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I got interview from UKM, but my friends said, UKM is BM oriented, even some of his friend study account using BM to teach.
If UKM is really BM oriented, will be really suffering for me =.="
Any clarification?
I got interview for Fakulti Teknologi dan Sains Maklumat~
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Just Visiting By
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May 21 2015, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 21 2015, 03:12 PM) I got interview from UKM, but my friends said, UKM is BM oriented, even some of his friend study account using BM to teach. If UKM is really BM oriented, will be really suffering for me =.=" Any clarification? I got interview for Fakulti Teknologi dan Sains Maklumat~ Yes BM is more favoured in UKM from what my friends told me.
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Blue.Army
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May 21 2015, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 21 2015, 03:12 PM) I got interview from UKM, but my friends said, UKM is BM oriented, even some of his friend study account using BM to teach. If UKM is really BM oriented, will be really suffering for me =.=" Any clarification? I got interview for Fakulti Teknologi dan Sains Maklumat~ hi i got the interview from FTSM as well. what course did you applied for? and do you have any idea what language should we use in the video? bahasa or english?
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azarimy
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May 21 2015, 10:07 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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UKM is more BM oriented than UiTM.
This post has been edited by azarimy: May 21 2015, 10:09 PM
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torpor
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May 21 2015, 11:21 PM
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That's because the uni's misi visi is "memartabatkan bahasa melayu".
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kumiko_91
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May 22 2015, 01:50 AM
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Absolutely right. UKM favors BM. I had to communicate with my broken BM when I went there. They didn't accept me in the end. That's why I went to UM.
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Critical_Fallacy
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May 22 2015, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(kumiko_91 @ May 22 2015, 01:50 AM) Absolutely right. UKM favors BM. I had to communicate with my broken BM when I went there. They didn't accept me in the end. That's why I went to UM. Are you implying that UKM discriminately selects researchers with fluency in BM even though you demonstrated your proficiency in A.I? Was there a reason you initially chose UKM as your first choice? Few days ago, azarimy shared something about equal opportunity in public education, but we have to compete for it.
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kumiko_91
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May 22 2015, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ May 22 2015, 01:23 PM) Are you implying that UKM discriminately selects researchers with fluency in BM even though you demonstrated your proficiency in A.I? Was there a reason you initially chose UKM as your first choice? Few days ago, azarimy shared something about equal opportunity in public education, but we have to compete for it. With broken BM, I don't think I am able to explain my proficiency in AI correctly also. Not really about public eduction equality I believe. Initially I chosen UKM because of the location, and I personally visited UKM before and have researcher friends there. So I thought it will be a bit better because I might be able to get good supervisor for my research easier.
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azarimy
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May 22 2015, 04:05 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ May 22 2015, 05:23 AM) Are you implying that UKM discriminately selects researchers with fluency in BM even though you demonstrated your proficiency in A.I? Was there a reason you initially chose UKM as your first choice? Few days ago, azarimy shared something about equal opportunity in public education, but we have to compete for it. I believe BM proficiency is one of UKM's criteria. One of their task is to translate knowledge into BM and desiminate to public. Other unis have their own niche area. UTM "discriminates" against not tech/science backgrounds because we are primarily engineering and technology university
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TSwonderer79
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May 22 2015, 04:09 PM
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Thanks for all reply and the clarification  Hmm, for the video I think I would speak in English because not specifically stated need to speak BM as well. But I felt kinda frustrated as it is BM oriented >.< Because in reality all the software, coding stuff its in English ~ This really keeping me from getting into UKM. Hmm, kumiko_91 chan, I don't feel like its easy to get in UM either. And congratz since you chose your right college
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TSwonderer79
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May 22 2015, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 22 2015, 04:05 PM) I believe BM proficiency is one of UKM's criteria. One of their task is to translate knowledge into BM and desiminate to public. Other unis have their own niche area. UTM "discriminates" against not tech/science backgrounds because we are primarily engineering and technology university  What do you mean by "discriminate" against tech/science backgrounds? >.< Won't accept Arts student?
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azarimy
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May 22 2015, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 22 2015, 08:12 AM) What do you mean by "discriminate" against tech/science backgrounds? >.< Won't accept Arts student? Means most of the courses dont even take arts stream students who do not take physics and add maths. Itu kira diskriminasi laa kan? Haha
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TSwonderer79
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May 22 2015, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 22 2015, 04:15 PM) Means most of the courses dont even take arts stream students who do not take physics and add maths. Itu kira diskriminasi laa kan? Haha Lols now I know why I didnt get my interview from UTM, because I'ma Bio student =w= But seriously? My friend told me now UTM interests in taking those who want to study business? I'm not sure. Yet still hard to get a place in there  So much competition
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kumiko_91
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May 22 2015, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 22 2015, 04:09 PM) Thanks for all reply and the clarification  Hmm, for the video I think I would speak in English because not specifically stated need to speak BM as well. But I felt kinda frustrated as it is BM oriented >.< Because in reality all the software, coding stuff its in English ~ This really keeping me from getting into UKM. Hmm, kumiko_91 chan, I don't feel like its easy to get in UM either. And congratz since you chose your right college  My whole interview session in UM is in English. Even documents were requested to be submitted in English.
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azarimy
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May 22 2015, 07:54 PM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 22 2015, 08:30 AM) Lols now I know why I didnt get my interview from UTM, because I'ma Bio student =w= But seriously? My friend told me now UTM interests in taking those who want to study business? I'm not sure. Yet still hard to get a place in there  So much competition  Note when i say "most couurses". Most of UTM's courses are engineering biased. Even its Biomedical course is abput biomedical engineering. So if u r applying into engineering heavy courses, then priority will be given to physics and add maths. However UTM also have a number of business/management and social science courses. these do not emphasize on physics/addmaths.
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TSwonderer79
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May 23 2015, 11:09 AM
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hmm, actualy I chose computer science, doesnt seems like its base on physics though >.<
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Krevaki
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May 23 2015, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 21 2015, 03:12 PM) I got interview from UKM, but my friends said, UKM is BM oriented, even some of his friend study account using BM to teach. If UKM is really BM oriented, will be really suffering for me =.=" Any clarification? I got interview for Fakulti Teknologi dan Sains Maklumat~ So, don't attend the interview?
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Critical_Fallacy
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May 23 2015, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 21 2015, 03:12 PM) I got interview from UKM, but my friends said, UKM is BM oriented, even some of his friend study account using BM to teach.
If UKM is really BM oriented, will be really suffering for me =.="
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TSwonderer79
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May 27 2015, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ May 23 2015, 09:05 PM) Well thats hurt but truthfully
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haidar.mh8
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May 27 2015, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 21 2015, 03:12 PM) I got interview from UKM, but my friends said, UKM is BM oriented, even some of his friend study account using BM to teach. If UKM is really BM oriented, will be really suffering for me =.=" Any clarification? I got interview for Fakulti Teknologi dan Sains Maklumat~ I am a UKM graduate, and in Fakulti Teknologi Sains Maklumat, we use ENGLISH  Not all faculty use Bahasa Malaysia, certain faculty use English This post has been edited by haidar.mh8: May 27 2015, 10:51 AM
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Jay Chua CC
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May 27 2015, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 27 2015, 10:46 AM) Well thats hurt but truthfully  Well i did the video interview in billingual.
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TSwonderer79
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May 27 2015, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(haidar.mh8 @ May 27 2015, 10:49 AM) I am a UKM graduate, and in Fakulti Teknologi Sains Maklumat, we use ENGLISH  Not all faculty use Bahasa Malaysia, certain faculty use English Thats a good news  How was it when you study at there? any comment ? =w=
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TSwonderer79
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May 27 2015, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 27 2015, 10:51 AM) Well i did the video interview in billingual.  Hmm, actually I'm not sure bout the third requirement that need the details about the pengadil part. Just anyhow find a teacher give them the details? because there listed prepare only o.o what kind of details do you prepare ~ This post has been edited by wonderer79: May 27 2015, 02:43 PM
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Jay Chua CC
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May 27 2015, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 27 2015, 02:38 PM) Hmm, actually I'm not sure bout the third requirement that need the details about the pengadil part. Just anyhow find a teacher give them the details? because there listed prepare only o.o what kind of details do you prepare ~ Wat pengadil part? They got list down wat details or what u shud talk ady for mine. Basically i just said what they want because time is limited.
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TSwonderer79
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May 28 2015, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 27 2015, 02:50 PM) Wat pengadil part? They got list down wat details or what u shud talk ady for mine. Basically i just said what they want because time is limited.
See the third requirement. I'm not sure if I'm the only one getting this, because some of my friend didnt have third requirements though just the video and cert. lols Hmm, the expire date its beofre 1/6/2015 5pm for me o.o This post has been edited by wonderer79: May 28 2015, 08:17 AM
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azarimy
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May 28 2015, 09:48 AM
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mister architect: the arrogant pr*ck
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pengadil = referee = people whom they could refer to about you.
basically it's just testimonials from teachers, headmaster, employers etc who dont exactly have a vested interest with you (which is why families dont count!). this is usually important as a vetting process to figure out stuffs about you that arent exactly assessed in exams or co-curricular certificates. for example:
leadership skills - only evident in group works or in clubs or activities that challenge one's ability to deliberate jobs etc. it's unlikely that you'll have a cert in leadership. even going to a bunch of leadership camps doesnt mean you possess leadership skills.
entreneurship skills - say you're good in making money out of nothing. of course nobody gives you a cert on this, nor will it be assessed in exams. but your employers would be able to attest to your ability in making money, right?
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TSwonderer79
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May 28 2015, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 28 2015, 09:48 AM) pengadil = referee = people whom they could refer to about you. basically it's just testimonials from teachers, headmaster, employers etc who dont exactly have a vested interest with you (which is why families dont count!). this is usually important as a vetting process to figure out stuffs about you that arent exactly assessed in exams or co-curricular certificates. for example: leadership skills - only evident in group works or in clubs or activities that challenge one's ability to deliberate jobs etc. it's unlikely that you'll have a cert in leadership. even going to a bunch of leadership camps doesnt mean you possess leadership skills. entreneurship skills - say you're good in making money out of nothing. of course nobody gives you a cert on this, nor will it be assessed in exams. but your employers would be able to attest to your ability in making money, right? I see, thanks for clarification
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Gmruleme
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May 28 2015, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(Critical_Fallacy @ May 23 2015, 10:05 PM) wow..! So are they learning all the technical terms in BM too? dahek.. or just the teaching will be in BM, the stuffs that you read and write are still in English
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Jay Chua CC
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May 28 2015, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 28 2015, 08:16 AM)
See the third requirement. I'm not sure if I'm the only one getting this, because some of my friend didnt have third requirements though just the video and cert. lols Hmm, the expire date its beofre 1/6/2015 5pm for me o.o Mine dont have the pengadil part. lol
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TSwonderer79
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May 28 2015, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ May 28 2015, 11:16 AM) Mine dont have the pengadil part. lol Thats the weird part for my interview letter =.=" All of my friend doesn't got third requirements too
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TSwonderer79
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May 28 2015, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(Gmruleme @ May 28 2015, 10:19 AM) wow..! So are they learning all the technical terms in BM too? dahek.. or just the teaching will be in BM, the stuffs that you read and write are still in English Its kinda awkward when teach in BM but the test and project/course itself is in English. =.="
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kingkingyyk
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May 28 2015, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 28 2015, 01:53 PM) Its kinda awkward when teach in BM but the test and project/course itself is in English. =.=" Local lecturers usually will conduct the class in both languages. While for foreign lecturers, how would you expect them to know bahasa? UM is similar as well. The international students immediately go facepalm when bahasa is being used.
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TSwonderer79
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May 29 2015, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ May 28 2015, 07:39 PM) Local lecturers usually will conduct the class in both languages. While for foreign lecturers, how would you expect them to know bahasa? UM is similar as well. The international students immediately go facepalm when bahasa is being used.  Well, I felt sorry for those international students Maybe that is why Local uni won't achieve higher rank in the World University Ranking lols. Sorry, not humiliating the Local Uni. But maybe a change should be made by them. Else nobody will ever like to enter Local Uni anymore =.=" Why not go to private uni >.< As there are much scholarships provided even though there is T&C.
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haidar.mh8
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May 29 2015, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 27 2015, 02:36 PM) Thats a good news  How was it when you study at there? any comment ? =w= its tough not because of study syllabus.But the life there, you have to face it like a grown up and adult. but it was best 3 years of life.
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TSwonderer79
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May 29 2015, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(haidar.mh8 @ May 29 2015, 11:40 AM) its tough not because of study syllabus.But the life there, you have to face it like a grown up and adult. but it was best 3 years of life.  I sense smth from yr words, what do you mean "by the life there, you have to face it like a grown up and adult" Got racist?  or being backstab by others lols
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kingkingyyk
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May 29 2015, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 29 2015, 09:37 AM) Well, I felt sorry for those international students Maybe that is why Local uni won't achieve higher rank in the World University Ranking lols. Sorry, not humiliating the Local Uni. But maybe a change should be made by them. Else nobody will ever like to enter Local Uni anymore =.=" Why not go to private uni >.< As there are much scholarships provided even though there is T&C. Top public uni are still better than private uni, not like that type of you-can-enroll-as-long-as-you-can-pay-the-fee. Fee is a concern as well.
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haidar.mh8
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May 31 2015, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(wonderer79 @ May 29 2015, 01:10 PM) I sense smth from yr words, what do you mean "by the life there, you have to face it like a grown up and adult" Got racist?  or being backstab by others lols racist?? no  UKM is the best harmony university, portraying how our diversify is our country.
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