QUOTE(Kaizer96 @ Jun 8 2015, 09:18 PM)
Mod: Permisi untuk double post, if not TLDR.
Let me add one more thing, i think most low tiered players don't believe in solo mmr because from their perspective, individual skill in dota is about mechanics or they thought high mmr players are hero abuser. They're wrong! Your mmr is your game knowledge, it has little to do with mechanics or how fast your finger is. Its just that lower tiered player overestimate their understanding of the game.
In the last patch, i could get raped so hard in the laning phase but still proceed to carry my teammates because i knew what to do. I remember getting 6 cs in the first 6 minutes as Invoker, but still managed to get godlike streak later and almost carried my team. Just like this video below.
I kinda agree that high mmr = highly skilled player with good mechanics and good knowledge in dota. However, from my limited understanding, pub games and pro dota are two very different game. They might have high skills in pubs but that does not automatically make them high skill in pro dota. They need a totally different mindset to play pro. We cannot simply deem people fit to go pro when they have xxx amount of mmr. Hence why people disagree with your emphasis on 6k players. Let me add one more thing, i think most low tiered players don't believe in solo mmr because from their perspective, individual skill in dota is about mechanics or they thought high mmr players are hero abuser. They're wrong! Your mmr is your game knowledge, it has little to do with mechanics or how fast your finger is. Its just that lower tiered player overestimate their understanding of the game.
In the last patch, i could get raped so hard in the laning phase but still proceed to carry my teammates because i knew what to do. I remember getting 6 cs in the first 6 minutes as Invoker, but still managed to get godlike streak later and almost carried my team. Just like this video below.
Yes, you might have the skill to be very good and the top pub player in the region, but that does not necessarily or automatically make you a good pro player.
However, it might be easier for you to turn pro compared to a pub player with lower skill/mechanics/knowledge. I guess this is your thinking at the moment, right?
Also, High individually skilled player might be good enough to carry 4 people in a pub game with pub meta against a disorganized 5 player in the enemy team( disorganized compared to pro games ), but that might be only limited to pub game.
There are simply too many aspects for a team to be successful other than strong individual skills. Things that I can list out of my mind: team chemistry, good IGL, good drafter.
Another important thing is the lack of good tournaments for up and coming team to participate in.
Look at team secret, the 5 of them chose not to be sponsored. They think that the organization gets too many benefit from the player compared to the benefits the player get from the organization ( organization provide basic salary but take a cut of the huge tournament prize )
Of course, this is just one example, it does not mean that every team should be or can survive like this. Circumstances are different for every single person. I like to drink apple juice doesn't mean that you have to like it too.
Jun 8 2015, 11:10 PM

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