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post Jan 12 2021, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jan 12 2021, 03:12 PM)
Mutual Platinum member spotted.  cool2.gif

Enjoy unlimited switching charge waiver of loaded units and 1%-load units* which are made after 90 days (from the date of purchase).
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Unless the policy has changed (again), the lowest gold status has already got unlimited free switches when the switching is done via PMO. The specific number of free waivers given applys when done manually via agents.

(It was effective 1st Jan 2018. See the post dated Dec 28, 2017.)

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post Jan 13 2021, 02:58 PM

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This is the reason for selecting Singapore equity fund; for short term play this year.

And also the reason why it is getting more difficult to pick more far-east funds into the port or top up the existing funds... as the funds are at peak levels.

But if at the beginning and accumulation stage, maybe just continue the regular purchases for longer term play.

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post Jan 19 2021, 04:07 PM

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Market alert: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh Stock Index / VN-Index dropped about 5% today.

Why: It was getting too hot with domestic investors; and the minimum trading lot would be increased from 10 to 100. Buy the rumor, sell the news?


HANOI, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Vietnam’s benchmark stock exchange is struggling to keep up with a large influx of local investors looking to move cash away from savings accounts which are offering declining interest rates, sources and stock market analysts said.

Vietnam, the region’s small frontier market, has seen a four-fold jump in share trading volumes in December as the benchmark VN-Index surpassed the 1,000-point mark, a threshold it struggled to cross over the last two years.

The index has jumped 23% since the start of November.


https://www.reuters.com/article/vietnam-mar...s-idUSL4N2JG23G

The Hanoitimes - A short-term solution would be to optimize the transaction process by increasing the minimum trading lot from 10 to 100 shares...

Meanwhile, the number of new investors soared by 109% in 2020 against the previous year.


http://hanoitimes.vn/vietnam-stock-market-...sue-315939.html

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Ps. Just topped up Vietnam-Global.


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post Jan 19 2021, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(jlkh760830 @ Jan 19 2021, 10:19 PM)
A question,, usually u guys before invest a certain fund, do you guys will look at categories (Risk, Inception & Fund Size) ???

From this 3 categories how to justify the fund are ok to invest?
Any sifu can explain?
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'Risk' just shows the category, bond, equity or balanced fund. The other 2 can be short cut by looking at the nav price, since they are under same company and have similar policy on giving out the income distribution.

I looked for nav above 0.3000 cents. This shows the equity fund has a track record, and in most cases the fund size too, as funds with good track record will attract more investors.

Except newer funds, like less than a year launched, then nav must be promising like at least 0.28 cents.

(All equity funds debut at 0.25/unit.)


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post Jan 20 2021, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 20 2021, 10:19 AM)
i don't think it is PUBLIC e-ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY FUND, as yycclin mentioned "going down stream ever since they launched it"
as PUBLIC e-ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY FUND is having +10% since launch
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And it was launched in Sept. (nav 0.28/unit - and falls into the quick shortlist for consideration.)

To me, getting into equity funds currently is a typical dilemma case of whether to join the bandwagon or not... FOMO (fear of missing out).

I have heavily turnover my equity funds last year, and the earliest switch was in April, with the bulk of them from June onwards.

And looking at their ROIs is a bit unneving... average about 18%, ranging from above 10% to about 45%, with many of the switches in the range of 20%+ and 30%+ gains within 6 months.

It would be a fantastic 2 years if it can continue to rally another 10% by year end.

And get this, greater china funds has already rally up 10%+ ytd and there is 8 more trading days this 1st month of 2021...





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post Jan 20 2021, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jan 19 2021, 04:07 PM)
Market alert: Vietnam Ho Chi Minh Stock Index / VN-Index dropped about 5% today.

Why: It was getting too hot with domestic investors; and the minimum trading lot would be increased from 10 to 100. Buy the rumor, sell the news?


HANOI, Jan 6 (Reuters) - Vietnam’s benchmark stock exchange is struggling to keep up with a large influx of local investors looking to move cash away from savings accounts which are offering declining interest rates, sources and stock market analysts said.

Vietnam, the region’s small frontier market, has seen a four-fold jump in share trading volumes in December as the benchmark VN-Index surpassed the 1,000-point mark, a threshold it struggled to cross over the last two years.

The index has jumped 23% since the start of November.


https://www.reuters.com/article/vietnam-mar...s-idUSL4N2JG23G

The Hanoitimes - A short-term solution would be to optimize the transaction process by increasing the minimum trading lot from 10 to 100 shares...

Meanwhile, the number of new investors soared by 109% in 2020 against the previous year.


http://hanoitimes.vn/vietnam-stock-market-...sue-315939.html

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Ps. Just topped up Vietnam-Global.
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So the 5% drop in the HCM stock exchange was not reflected in the Viet-Global fund... it went down -0.66% only. The fund has U.S. equities too, and Nasdaq was up yesterday... as reflected in the Lifestyle & Tech fund, +1.55%.

Secondly, US was on holiday on Monday, and there were no pricing on Monday for both funds.


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post Jan 27 2021, 02:21 PM

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A reminder to take note of the funds' non business days, and also non trading days in KL bursa.

PB Greater China A-Shares: Feb 8 to Feb 17.


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post Jan 28 2021, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Jan 27 2021, 02:31 PM)
Others A share china fund no affected?
Like public China access? Hope the name is right 😂
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Please see the full list in the funds' prices page.

Only the above fund is strongly tied to Taiwan stock exchange and follows its non business days too, which closes for CNY from 8th Feb.

You need to refer to the list regularly, as it would be updated accordingly to changes in its equity holdings in each stock exchanges.

Like only some Asia Pacific funds have no pricing on Tuesday Jan 26 (Australia Day), while other Asia Pacific are not affected.

(The above particular fund, PB Greater China A-share fund, was stated as a reminder to ownself, that the last day to switch into this fund before CNY is next Friday. smile.gif )

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Correction: other China funds too have holdings in Taiwan, and follows its non trading days, from 8th Feb onwards.

1. China Pacific Equity Fund
2. Public China Ittikal Fund
3. Public China Select Fund
4. Public China Titans Fund
5. Public Greater China Fund

(Just that pb greater china a-shares has extra day on 17 Feb.)

This post has been edited by j.passing.by: Jan 28 2021, 09:13 AM
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:02 PM

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Please note the above mentioned non business day list does not includes the non business days in Malaysia.

It is understood that all funds will not be priced on public holidays, or more precisely when KL is on holiday.

Normally, the bursa will close earlier on CNY eve, the cut-off time will be earlier too.

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post Jan 29 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jan 29 2021, 02:25 PM)
KOSPI down by almost 9% from peak in just 5 days. Going in for a short trade in addition to my medium term position in fund with heavy exposure to Korea.
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But when taken into account the sharp gains in the first two weeks of Jan., it is still positive for the month.

So, it depends on the individual's portfolio too.

And even taking into account the markets movement yesterday, which is yet reflected into the nav/unit prices (due to yesterday's holiday), my port would still be positive for the month.

Overall, HSI, HSCI (hang seng china enterprises), KOSPI, Taiwan index, and Shanghai index are still positive for the month.

If to add more equities into the port, maybe just a bit, 1%... maybe next week before most China funds close for CNY holidays.

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Vietnam stock index: up 4%. thumbsup.gif


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post Jan 29 2021, 03:55 PM

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okay, something to share...

The excel file on my port has a column on the max gains for each line of purchase/switch-in.

It is conditionally formatted, the cell is highlighted when the gains is at the max %. Then the % will be copied into the column as the new max %.

PB ASIA PACIFIC ENTERPRISES FUND -3.12%

Above is the fund with lowest daily drop. But my excel file shows that, the lowest drop from the max level is not this fund, but Public Islamic Asia Leaders Equity and PB China Pacific Equity.

(needless to say, it only tells me the funds I am holding... not on the funds I am not holding, which does not matter to me either way.)

So, this alert me to which funds I should consider to top-up (if I want to add more equity into the port), or which equity fund to switch to another.


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post Feb 15 2021, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 15 2021, 09:01 PM)
what is the "saving" % that UTC made for a 5.5% SC?
is it 3% for UTC and 2.5% for PM?
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I don't see how you can better the super agent's 0.5% service charge. (Current promotion till April... 0%.)

I'm not too sure how to begin purchasing funds from a new fund company (via EPF's online i-invest), as I have yet to buy funds using i-invest.

Will I have to send my particulars like name, IC number and home address to the new fund company first, or will i-invest to it for me?

Anyway, I'm told that EPF members after age 55 can still make purchases using i-invest. All your money in EPF (less RM1000.00) is available... I repeat: All your money in EPF less RM1000.00. smile.gif


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post Feb 17 2021, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Feb 15 2021, 10:11 PM)
When you purchase through i-Invest the first time you'll be redirect to the fund company's website to create an account under the fund, will require you to give details like name, IC number, phone, financial background, income etc. example if invest in Public Mutual funds you'll be directed to create a Public Mutual Online account.

EPF not authorized to send your personal info for you to private company so you have to do it yourself.
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Thank you. Sorry for the late reply. I thought I checked out i-invest first before replying. Seems like I would have to spend a bit more time to study what funds are available... as not all funds are approved by EPF into their "members investment scheme" (MIS).

At first glance, PM has most of the top funds in the Asia Pacific region...

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oh, bond funds took a serious hit in yesterday's nav prices. Since last August, the bond funds I'm holding had dropped about 3%.

Should have switched more into equities in the first week of Feb. Anyway, did managed to switch out some on Feb 5, before the China funds closed for CNY holidays. And also Vietnam fund... HCM market reopens today, and up 3%+. Also Taiwan 3.5%+.

(Hong Kong, 1%+... but it was up too last week. Shanghai still closed, will reopen for trading tomorrow.)

Missed the dip on Jan 29, and the markets recovered while it was non-working day on FT day.

Win some, lose some.




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post Feb 17 2021, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(wkchard @ Feb 17 2021, 10:55 AM)
Hi, newbie here. Is it better to redeem from money market and then buy equity or switch directly from money market into equity?
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You have to know how you purchased the mm fund and its service charge you had paid. Then the units (in the mm fund) you bought will be classifed as below:

- Loaded units
- Partial-load units
- 1%-load units
- Low-load units
- Zero-load units

If you paid zero service charge on the mm fund, it is call "zero-load" units. When switch to equity, you pay the service charge incur on the equity fund, which is 5.50%. The switching fee is waived.

(So, the cost is same as redeem first, and then buy the equity fund. Just paying the difference in the service charges.)

Below are the charges, respectively.
- Up to RM25 (within 90 days), up to RM50 (after 90 days).
- Up to 0.50%*
- Sales charge of up to 4.50%
- Sales charge of up to 5.25%
- Sales charge of up to 5.50%

(* Subject to a minimum of RM50, whichever is higher.)

If not mistaken, partial-load units refer to purchases via EPF i-invest, with service charge up to 0.50%.

Loaded units would be units that you have paid 5.5% service charges. Meaning the units were previously switched from an equity fund to mm fund. So, now when you switch back to equity, you pay only the switching of either RM25 or RM50.

For more details, you can refer to the fund's prospectus... https://www.publicmutual.com.my/Our-Products/Fund-Explorer




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post Feb 26 2021, 06:54 PM

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Market selloff! Tokyo, Hong Kong, Taiwan and S. Korea down 3%+.

Went in too early this week... should have pulled the trigger today.

Have double the equity portion from one third to two third of the port... getting ready for the rest of the year... Hong Kong started their vaccination program, other countries (in Asia Pacific region) will follow soon.

Port Allocation:
Bond funds, 33%.
Asia-Pacific, 37%
Global, 20%.
Asean, 10%.

(Vietnam Global fund included in Global.)

See how it goes in the next several months... if needed, would add 5-10% each month till June/July.


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EPF dividends update:

Annual Dividends:
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2020 5.20%

10-yrs Annualised Returns:
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2020 6.10%

(3-yr annualised: 5.60%)
(5-yr annualised: 5.88%)

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021...c-stricken-2020

PETALING JAYA: Despite the Covid-19 pandemic, the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) says it has delivered a solid performance in 2020 for both its operational and financial results with a total dividend payout of RM47.64bil.

The pension fund declared a dividend of 5.20% for Conventional Savings and 4.9% for Syariah Savings for 2020.

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The EPF’s overall investment assets grew 7.9% to RM998bil, with the market value hitting RM1.02 trillion at the end of last year.

The fund’s membership base also grew by 2% to 14.89 million, while employers registered with the EPF stood at 534,398.

“It takes RM8.25bil to pay out every 1% dividend for Conventional Savings and RM972mil for every 1% dividend for Syariah Savings in 2020, ” he said.

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Just updated the port, and noted the lost incurred in the past 2 weeks, -3.1%. Wiping out the gains made from 31/12 till 12/2.

Portfolio YTD: -1.2%

The negative YTD was because:
- The port had a huge portion in bond funds (about 66% of the port).
- Some wrong timing and delays in switching from bond to equity at the end of Jan and early Feb.


The equity funds peaked on 17/2…

Fund Performance From 31-Dec-2020 To 17-Feb-2021
PIINFBF: -2.07%, PLTF: 6.50%, PVGEF: 7.58%, PBCPEF: 16.61%, PIALEF: 17.31%.

And dropped in the past 2 weeks…

Fund Performance From 17-Feb-2021 To 26-Feb-2021
PIINFBF: -1.16%, PLTF: -6.64%, PVGEF: -3.02%, PBCPEF: -9.56%, PIALEF: -8.77%.

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PIINFBF = Islamic Infrastructure Bond Fund
PLTF = Lifestyle & Tech Fund
PVGEF = Viet-Global Equity Fund
PBCPEF = China Pacific Equity Fund
PIALEF = Islamic Asia Leaders fund.

YTD Fund Performance: From 31-Dec-2020 To 26-Feb-2021
PIINFBF: -3.20%, PLTF: -0.57%, PVGEF: 4.34%, PBCPEF: 5.46%, PIALEF: 7.02%.

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Ouch, ouch, ouch, Asia Pacific and Greater China funds dropped 18%-20% off the peaks…

Definitely feeling the pain if bought this year… If bought last year, the roi is still positive, in 20% - 30% plus regions.

Buy more and wait for the rebound? console.gif

What really hurting are bond funds... ranting.gif

Fund Performance From 09-Mar-2020 To 09-Mar-2021
PIINFBF (Risk 2): -3.65% (highest: 2.78%)
PSKF (Risk 2): -1.97% (highest: 2.27%)

PIALEF (Risk 5): 52.19% (highest: 71.7%)
PGCF (Risk 5): 37.12% (highest: 55.1%)



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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Apr 17 2021, 11:45 AM)
Yes. We are greedy. We want to max our return
This is solely my perspective
But at the same time we need to diversify our risk. So we allow some money to parked in these fund, especially the moment we start having kids and plan for their education that's where fixed income and managed portfolio kicks in. Most of the fund does promise in the brochure of protecting your savings for your next generations etc etc
If you want to get rich, unit trust is not the way to go bro

Back to the statement on a good cat and a good managed fund
Fund A. Charge you a cumulative 2 percent per annum for managed and sales fees but you get 6 percent returns nett
Fund B. Charge you a cumulative 1.6 percent per annum but you get 6.2 percent returns nett
The difference is there and I would say... People will always compare woah fund A so ripped off. But if your purpose is to protect your savings... Can you say fund A is a lousy fund?
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The local ut industry is regulated and the annual fees (both management and trustee) are pretty much standard across all fund companies.

The main point to take note of is "net returns". The performance reports are based on net returns. And the funds to invest in are short-listed and based on their past performance and returns.

The annual fees should not be a consideration at all if the investor wishes to buy any ut funds.

Talking about annual fees is just like talking about any profit gained by any business enterprise. Just like selecting which restaurant to have dinner, we don't care how much profit the cook makes. We may base the decision on the menu, price, and ambiance of the restaurant, but never the profit the restaurant makes.

QUOTE(squarepilot @ Apr 17 2021, 02:19 PM)
Generally. Those who opt for public mutual still prefer investment that still provide human touch. Their agent is willing to drive to your house or nearby cafe to review your investment with them. Of cause these comes with a higher fee.
People here who like to get best returns and know how to use Internet to manage their money via fund will probably buy through FSM

If you are comfortable on your returns, you wouldn't have kira so much on their high sales charge. Just saying

I buy also because of friends doing Public mutual. But I pick those riskier fund. Pay so high management fees of cause must go for high risk one 😀
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That may be 20 or 30 years ago... now it is online and the reason for this thread and forum. To share and learn how to do it on your own.


This post has been edited by j.passing.by: Apr 19 2021, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 16 2021, 09:58 AM)
just a fact based note on the RHB funds returns...
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QUOTE(yiyan @ Apr 17 2021, 03:23 PM)
My friend asked me to find her Sales Agent since her agent very good in fund recommendation. Is this sort of like upline and downline?
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You can learn to do it on your own.

Try looking at the above post 2 pages back, where it has 2 attachments showing the past performances of all the funds in RHB for 1-year to 10-years.

You can look up similar past performance of all funds in Public Mutual and other companies too.

There are many funds, don't let it overwhelm you. You are not buying all the funds – only 3 to 5 equity funds.

Just narrow down and shortlist the top 3 or 5 funds that are giving good and great returns based on the past performances in 1-yr, 3-yr, 5-yr and 10-yr periods; all the many other funds can be disregarded.

Then make an investment plan to invest into the selected funds REGULARLY FOR AT LEAST 5 YEARS (preferably 10 years and more).

The first purchase into any ut fund must be at least RM1,000. So the REGULARLY depends on your investment budget, it can be 1 month or maybe every 6 months or annually. I think the best would be 3 every months; which is also same as EPF-MIS scheme (Members Investment Scheme) into unit trust funds.



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