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post Aug 28 2015, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(bcteh @ Aug 28 2015, 04:18 PM)
Those I think is not EPF fund. PRSF example ... is high performance for last 10 yrs.
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Those are EPF approved funds but as pointed by j.passing.by..they are not from PM...thus have some dismayed results.
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post Aug 31 2015, 11:28 AM

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hmm.gif I am guessing, a well known forummer, *sound, must be laughing now and maybe saying,..."I told you all so, you all don't belief and now I am going for lunch at my auntie's bungalow which she had bought from the monies she had made from UT investors"...

hmm.gif I think some real seniors, crash hardened UT investors would still vows that it is still a good investment vehicle for some people....

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post Aug 31 2015, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Aug 31 2015, 04:12 PM)
Am a bit puzzled by the above remarks. Why should we care what others think? If they think agents are cheats and liers, so be it. They are entitled to their opinions.

Similarly, if we choose to think that UT is a good investment vehicle, it is up to others to decide for themselves whether they agree or not. We are not here to convince anyone to our opinions - that our opinions are right.

And I definitely don't bother to convince anyone whether or not UT is good or not. It's their money, their own business...  smile.gif  This is also partly one of the reasons that I don't reply to some of the posts, when I felt that the intention was just for the sake to 'score points'.

Their money... any benefits they gain from my posts, they don't share it with me. Any lost they made, I don't share the pain either! So, my friend, c'est la vie!  smile.gif
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rclxms.gif you said it all..."They are entitled to their opinions, not here to convince anyone to our opinions - that our opinions are right, definitely don't bother to convince anyone whether or not UT is good or not, c'est la vie!",.... thumbup.gif


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post Sep 21 2015, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Sep 21 2015, 10:14 AM)
hi,

anyone can share procedures on the EPF withdrawal to invest in UT with PB Mutual fund???
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while waiting for a more direct answer.....try read this...hope it helps....
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/InvestmentP...mentScheme.aspx
found this while googling...
http://www.acetech.com.my/Svc/EPF.htm

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post Nov 5 2015, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Nov 5 2015, 12:47 PM)
Pink Spider  lai lai come here and explain about dividends for unit trust. tongue.gif
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page# 3, post# 57 by j.passing.by, did have some explanation about the effect of dividends for unit trust....

hmm.gif about this....
if buy UT that are mandated "global"
on the Q: "If foreign market crush, i also crush lerrr"
come to think about it....
If foreign market boom, i also "huat" lah
isn't it the same as...
if but UT that is mandated 'local"
if the local market crush, i also crush lerr
if the local market boom, i also "huat" lah..

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post Dec 3 2015, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(starry @ Dec 3 2015, 12:24 AM)
Hi all,
I was told Public Cash Deposit Fund is like FD which pays out monthly interest? Is that true?
Any info about this would be much appreciated.
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while waiting for value added response.....it is best that you try to read this "PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS SHEET"

http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...8E%3d&tabid=670

hmm.gif from the info from that link, I don't think it will pays out monthly interest.....
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post Dec 3 2015, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(starry @ Dec 3 2015, 02:01 AM)
Hi,
Thanks for the feedback. I came across this in the Public Mutual website.
Monthly Distributions for Public Cash Deposit Fund

Can anyone shed some light on what that means?
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oh yeah! doh.gif my bad....from the chart, it did has monthly distribution....thanks for sharing.
hmm.gif but I noticed from the distribution chart...the distribution is just 0.26~0.30 of a sen (not even 1 sen)
so assuming it to be 0.28 per month X 12 months = 3.36%
at an NAV of about RM 1 per unit, a RM 1000 invested will get about RM 33.6 return pa (subjected to market ups/downs)
so I think it is a competitive rate for this kind of money market fund

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post Dec 3 2015, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(starry @ Dec 3 2015, 12:41 PM)
Many thanks for the comprehensive analysis  thumbup.gif
Any idea where to get info whether a fund has an annual, semi annual or monthly distribution?
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this would be the BEST place to ask.....
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/ContactUs.aspx
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post Feb 18 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Lyu @ Feb 18 2016, 11:09 AM)
I wanted to start investing in public mutual

Where do get all info about it other than Google blindly?
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this is a good place to start...(alot of info and many linkages)
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(starry @ Feb 18 2016, 08:59 PM)
Hi,
Noob question here. Just wanna ask how repurchase price is determined. Say at 8 pm February 18, 2016 PDSF price shown at Public Mutual website is RM0.2592 as of 17/2/2016. So if I repurchase at at 8 pm February 18, 2016, price is the 17/2/16 price which is RM0.2592?
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while waiting for simpler and more value added responses
hope this can explains it....
got that from...
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...M0%3d&tabid=105


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QUOTE(starry @ Feb 18 2016, 09:29 PM)
Thanks for the quick response. So if I repurchase at 8 pm February 18, 2016, repurchasing price is the 17/2/16 price coz that is valuation point at that time?
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hmm.gif I think, if you sell on 18/2 at 8pm.....
the price valuation of 19/2 (to see how the markets performs) applies.

I got this from another sites....(I think it may applies to PM funds too.....)
Q: When will I know about the price I get?

A: Most of the unit trusts in Malaysia are priced based on "forward pricing". This means that if you transact today, you will get the fund’s value as of the closing price of the market today. However, you will know the price in two working days
The price that you could see in the website is the so-called 'indicative price'. This is usually the price of the fund two working days ago. This indicative price is NOT the actual transaction price of the fund that you are buying or selling.

Generally, the fund manager requires approximately two business days to consolidate and derive a unit price for the funds. These prices are further valued independently by the fund's trustees. Therefore, the dealing price will be made known to the public two business days after the transaction date. Once we obtained the price, an email notification will be sent to you.


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post Apr 25 2016, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(allenpee85 @ Apr 25 2016, 09:16 PM)
On top of that, FSM they have annual management fee and other expeneses.
Does this also incurred for Public Mutual Fund?

After all expenses has been taken into account (after bought), which 1 is much worth?
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hmm.gif correction ....
FSM did not charge annual mgmt. fees and other expenses......
I think you had mistaken those....those are charged by the respective individuals fund houses......
you cannot see those charges in the normal NAV prices movement....those are already "reflected" in the daily NAV.

yr Q: "Does this also incurred for Public Mutual Fund?"
read page "225" of this article....
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...-M%3d&tabid=105

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ May 9 2016, 12:03 AM)
They show return(%) by using the lowest & highest NAV of the year instead of the distribution(%). The distribution is shown but in cents, unlike previously got % as well.

All these while got rules for agents must be honest la, cannot mislead la, bla bla bla... Now they publish something which is almost impossible to achieve. How can someone able to invest precisely at the lowest NAV & sell at the highest NAV?

I feel pity for those fell for these in the next few months.
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hmm.gif interesting,.....
yr posting,..."They show return(%) by using the lowest & highest NAV of the year instead of the distribution(%)."
I may have missed seeing it...can you pls provide a screen shot of the word or any indications that the "RETURNS %" are by using the lowest & highest NAV of the year...."

I got this from PM site...
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...ug%3d&tabid=248

yr posting...."The distribution is shown but in cents, unlike previously got % as well".
they announces distribution in SEN per unit.
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...jQ8%3d&tabid=87

hmm.gif Sometimes and in many cases, it is the wrong expectations or understanding and quick of making assumption that caused misunderstanding then blaming others for what we failed to see. bangwall.gif

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QUOTE(tungfunglaw @ May 9 2016, 12:28 PM)
Pls take 2015 QFR & compare with the latest and you will understand what i'm trying to say. For regular investor, we will look at all figures carefully.

What if an agent decided to use the Annual Returns column to some older 1st time investors? Dont you think they will be 'wow' by the superhigh returns which is in %? And do you think it's possible to get lowest NAV by prediction?

Yes, all these years the distributions are announced in term of cents but the % will be shown QFR in order for the investors to gauge on how much they've earned. Using cents only will need manual calculation to get the % where some older investors might not know how to do so.

Lastly, why PMB show returns based on Annual returns which clearly contradict with their previous advise to all their investors, 3-5yrs thingy?
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hmm.gif you are implying,....
1) UTs investor can gauge how much they earned from the distribution if the distribution is in %?.... doh.gif
2) you are "regular UTs investor".... doh.gif
3) FHs cannot use Annual returns to gauge the fund performance over a period of time... doh.gif

I rclxub.gif ,...saving some breath....after all that I said.
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sorry, I cannot answer more of your questions, because
1) I don't gauge how much I will earned from the UTs distribution, be it if the distribution is in % or in SEN...as a matter of facts I don't bother with UTs distribution...b'cos it makes NO different to my investment value.
2) I am not a regular investor......therefore what can I tell you as u are a "regular UTs investor".
3) I NOT only use annual returns to gauge the fund performance over a period of time....but I also use peer to peer annual return and annualized returns comparison of it performance and its RR ratio too....

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QUOTE(mpips @ May 23 2016, 12:57 PM)
Anyone who wishes to diversify their investment with just min USD500, you can earn 15-25% ROI a month, rather than 5-6% annually on mutual funds or FD, do PM me.
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sorry...does not mean to imply that yours is the same.....
hope that yours is not 1 of these....
Investing in thin air
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016...ng-in-thin-air/


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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 9 2016, 05:49 PM)
keep on launching new funds eventho some are still at loss doh.gif
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hmm.gif the more funds under mgmt...the more mgmt fees there is..... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kradun @ Jun 12 2016, 09:01 PM)
Although PM did charge a high entry cost compared to FSM but it will worth it as long the investor manage to get their expected return. At least they can fine tune the investor into a rational person when they turn wild. smile.gif
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if other things being equal....the one with the higher sales charge will need a longer times to catch up with the one of lower sales charges....
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QUOTE(shredder @ Jun 12 2016, 09:55 PM)
Hello every1, i wanna ask, is there any apps can be downloaded to phone to track the progress of your investment?
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Try fsm....i think they hv that for their account holders
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QUOTE(cplai8791 @ Jul 26 2016, 10:11 AM)
Hi,

I know that we able to view the performance table of the normal fund on Morningstar. How about Private Retirement Scheme? Can someone provide a link to see this?

Thanks.
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try this....?
http://www.ppa.my/getting-started/funds-re...nd-performance/
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QUOTE(cplai8791 @ Jul 26 2016, 10:28 AM)
Thanks. Can't find this link or this filter if go MorningStar directly... Haha...

By the way, may I know is there any reason why PRS performance table only have 1 year annualized instead of 3, 5, and 10 yrs as normal fund?
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i guess it is because PRS funds is not in the mkts 5 or 10 yrs ago. biggrin.gif
for the YTD, 1 week, 1mth, 3 mths, 6 mth 1yr, 2 yrs 3 yrs data,
try this...(but without the PM data)
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...fundSelect.svdo
select All PRS providers only.

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