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Zelz92
post Jun 28 2018, 01:39 PM

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Hi all,

My 15 R4 (i7-8750H, GTX 1070 OC, 1TB HDD) is on its way. I'm curious about the thermals. I've seen forum online that it has thermal issue. Can anyone share their experience?
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post Jul 18 2018, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Zelz92 @ Jun 28 2018, 01:39 PM)
Hi all,

My 15 R4 (i7-8750H, GTX 1070 OC, 1TB HDD) is on its way. I'm curious about the thermals. I've seen forum online that it has thermal issue. Can anyone share their experience?
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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Jul 10 2018, 11:17 PM)
Looking at the latest Alienware R5. The thermals (when it is working well) seems to hover around 80c underload for CPU (GTX1060 it seems).

Very tempted to get one  drool.gif  drool.gif . So far cant find any details about GTX1070 thermals pair with i7  hmm.gif
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Got my Alienware 15 R4 with following spec for a week now. Thought wanted to give my experience with it.

i7-8750, GTX1070, 1TB SSD, 8GB 2400mhz, 1080p 60hz (G-Sync Enabled)

Build Quality
As expected, top of the line quality feel. Nice and sturdy, almost 0 keyboard flex and display panel flex. Keyboard is nice to type on. However the Alien Command Center is a bit buggy sometime when starting the computer (missing Home & FX Tab form time to time). Had to close the ACC service and restart the Command Center. The track pad is nice and it lights up! Webcam was okay, although speaker is a bit distorted at high volume. not sure if wanted to call Dell to have a look at it. Battery life is around 2.5 hrs for my normal usage as the display is G-sync.

Gaming
The gaming experience is awesome. Didn't get to play many games. Played Dota 2 with max setting (Dx11), around 120 fps. Tomb Raider on 1080p max setting on the other hand is around max, 150fps, min 70fps and avg of 110 fps.

Thermal
This part is a bit disappointing. At first I didn't believe what they're saying in notebookreview forum. What they discussed is true. Playing Tomb Raider the system throttles on Core # 0, 2 & 4 with temp reach above 90 to even 100. While the other core are at 84 degree to 95 degree. Suspected an uneven heat sink to CPU die as mentioned by iunlock. Running Dell Stress test result in same temperature with max clock of 3.992Ghz.
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Due to this temp, I contacted Dell yesterday (17/8/2018). They respond very quickly and will provide replacement parts (asked what part and they didn't reply) and wait for on site engineer to make an appointment. Bought myself Thermal grizzly Kryonaut to ask the engineer to use this instead. Edit: the replacement part is the heat sink.
Today i try undervolting the CPU using XTU. Undervolt to -0.05, Playing Tomb Raider the temperature barely hit 90 degree. Further undervolting to -0.100, resulting temp barely reaching 80 degree and maintain clock speed of 3.992 GHz.
I did accidentally overvolted to +0.100 and ran Tomb Raider. Will this damage the CPU? The system throttles to 3.82 Ghz.

Note: I always rise the laptop to allow airflow.

While in subject of clock, Tried overclocking the display. only manage to overclock until 67Hz, any higher will cause black screen.

Overall
Like the laptop and will keep it. The thermal is the only issue with this laptop. Hope the on site engineer will be able to fix it with the new parts. planning to do LM in the future. For now, ill utilize the on site support that come with this laptop. Will re-pasting with LM void warranty?

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post Jul 18 2018, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Jul 18 2018, 08:54 PM)
Thanks bro for the review.

As long the voltage is not over the max voltage that the CPU can handle it is OK.

Seems like thermal is always an issue. Well i might need to buy myself the thermal paste and repaste it.

I myself have also ordered Alienware R4 15 waiting for it.  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

If you dont mind me asking, where did you buy the thermal grizzly kyronaut?
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Afraid to damage the CPU or reduce its lifespan.

Bought at Shopee for Rm29 (1g). Rm 33 after shipping.

One thing to add, the palm rest has nice rubbery texture. However, it attracts oily/wet palm and cause it to stain. you can wipe with damp cloth to remove it, but it'll show some traces of the wiped area (my sensitive eye). Recommend putting dbrand skin. I Plan to put one on my laptop as well.
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post Jul 21 2018, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 19 2018, 12:57 AM)
yea. im waiting for dbrand to have sales now/ biggrin.gif
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Count me in. Bet would look awesome with matte black. hmm.gif

Edit: Dbrand is selling for 25% only for today drool.gif

QUOTE(jonlee @ Jul 19 2018, 10:48 AM)
Saw the new AW15, thinking of buying one since they have instant RM500 cash rebate now.

I'm thinking of upgrading the GPU to 1070 , Storage to 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD and panel to 120Hz Gsync. Maintain CPU. RAM will get aftermarket.

Any recommendation with the upgrades?

Will the GPU be ok with the stock i5 8300H?

Thanks
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I chose the same configuration with the RM 500 rebate as well. However opted with i7-8750h and gtx 1070. 8750h will provide a bit future proofing imo. cheaper 1080 60hz display for mobile gaming and can hook with 4k monitor if want to. besides, GTX 1100 series is coming out soon, can use amplifier to boost performance. So yeah, i opted 8750 for future proofing.

I dont bother upgrading SSD and ram that much as SSD wont add significant FPS to your gaming (faster loading time however), While 8gb is enough for gaming. If need more. I can always add this. Whereas, you cant upgrade then soldered CPIU & GPU.

That said, the i5 is more than capable handling the GTX1070 without bottle necking. However, Dell won't let you choose 1070 with the i5 and error on some confusing windows option.

Don't forget to ask Dell costumer service to give you quotation. Could safe you couple hundred more. I've save another RM 250 on mine

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post Jul 23 2018, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Jul 21 2018, 09:25 PM)
I already bought ytd since have promo. But it seems i  cant apply any code or stated there is 25% off in the payment section. The price shown is already deducted?
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Already deducted. normal would be $50/set.
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post Aug 2 2018, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Jul 25 2018, 11:31 PM)
Alienware 15 R4 fully upgraded to 16GB RAM 1TB NVME

Plus new 4k monitor, keyboard and mouse to keep for company  brows.gif

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How's your thermal?
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post Aug 21 2018, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Aug 14 2018, 11:02 PM)
dbrand was good enough to send me another set because i key in incomplete address. Surprisingly, i received both! damn good the dbrand cs.hahah
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That laptop looks amazing!

Luckily for me Dell replaced my palmrest after the technician broke one of the snapping pin. The new palmrest still have transparent plastic to cover from palm wear, for now. Although still need dbrand skin for long term solution.

Wanna sell to me the other set? brows.gif

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post Aug 21 2018, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 19 2018, 01:52 AM)
Sharing some mod that I've done to my laptop.

(As attached)

i use some aluminium tape (can be bought at ace hardware) and tape around the fan and some of copper heat sink. Basically this is to ensure the heat is not spread out (its like contain it) and the heat will flow right the way it was.

For thermal paste I've used Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (paste) and Thermal Grizzly Minus Pad 8. At the moment idling is around 50C with room temperature.

I've used same method for my Alienware M17X-R4. So far so good.

Cheers.
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Cool MOD. thinking of doing the same hmm.gif
My i7-8750h 15R4 didn't get any better after re pasting with Kryonaut. Guess the 6 core processor just runs hot. Thinking of contacting Dell again next month.

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post Aug 30 2018, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(nicks @ Aug 21 2018, 02:27 PM)
Could be uneven surface on the heat sink. else, is it overheat? if does then need to contact Dell ASAP.
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These are temps while playing Dota 2. Repasted with Kryonaut.

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That's what I thought so. They change the heatsink once. and the heat isn't getting any better. Will report next again week.

QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Aug 23 2018, 04:47 PM)
Guys, are your aw 15 like this? My screen hinge and lid is slightly out of alignment. The lid is aligned more towards the left side.
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Wow, that's really out of alignment. My unit fits perfectly with a small and even gap between left and right hinge.
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post Sep 19 2018, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Sep 10 2018, 10:50 AM)
Well, at least i aint the only one with hot temps.

Dell "engineer" already replaced my heatsink and fan and used a better thermal paste and this laptop is still overheating.

I already asked for a replacement which can take up to 20+ days which i will wait and see.

Worst come to worst, complain to tribunal and get my refund.

Sick of waiting....

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How did you ask for the replacement unit?

D Brand have 15% sell on all skin. There's a new skin pattern as well.

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post Sep 28 2018, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Sep 21 2018, 08:41 PM)
Bruh, undervolted -0.150V and still can get to 100 degrees...

For now, underclock to 3.3GHz while playing games still can reach 90degress.  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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Must be improper contact.
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post Sep 28 2018, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Chong @ Sep 28 2018, 12:19 PM)
Depend on your luck. My first unit had problem and Dell sent a replacement unit for me. Now my 2nd unit also had problem. Today Dell Engineer visit me again to exchange heat sink / fan and motherboard  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

Hopefully will be trouble free after this visit  cry.gif  cry.gif
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My laptop keep on doing hardware check (Fan check) every so often when i start my laptop. This been happening for last 2 weeks. Even after waking from hibernating, the hardware check will appear. Talked to the support and agree to replace fan, heatsink and motherboard. Today Dell 'engineer' came and replace heatsink and motherboard. Ran Rise of Tomb Raider bancmark, so far so good. Will continue testing.

What shocked me is how these so called engineer dont even bother to clean the old thermal paste on the GPU and CPU. 3 engineer so far. The first one just remove old heatsink and just slap in the replacement heat sink (WTF?). The 2nd didn't even bother until i ask him to clean the old one. The third engineer put thermal grizzly that i bought and didnt remove the stock thermal paste on the new replacement heatsink bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

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post Sep 28 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(danZach @ Sep 28 2018, 12:48 AM)
Good evening ladies and gents, need a sanity check here...

I'm looking at getting an Alienware 15R3 with the 7820HK + 1070 (new old stock) ... Should I be worried about the thermal issues with this combination?
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Most 15R3 & 17R4 thermal can be solved by repasting. At least that's what i read in notebookreview forum.
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post Oct 1 2018, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Alan Chong @ Sep 29 2018, 11:09 AM)
Dell arrange an experience engineer for me. He was 6 years with Dell. He clean up original thermal paste with proper tools & cleaner before repaste thermal grizzly. He told me that motherboard was cause AW15r4 overheat issue, repaste thermal paste & change heat sink won't solve this problem. He also told me that don't upgrade BIOS in any case. This will cause motherboard problem. Another thing I noticed that my default motherboard was production in 02/2018 and the replacement motherboard was production in 04/2018. I think that was difference batch of motherboard and 02/2018 version may have overheat issue. So far my AW overheat issue had been solve, idle 45-50c and 80c while gaming.

We also had short discussion about Dell G7. He told me that Dell G7 don't have overheat issue, the common issue for G7 is keyboard problem. So if somebody looking for Gen 8th i7 + GTX1060, G7 should be good choice.  nod.gif  nod.gif
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What's your system spec and which bios version you're using?
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post Oct 4 2018, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Chong @ Oct 4 2018, 06:11 PM)
Saw this in Taobao. Modify AW15R3 into water cooler  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....bucket=3#detail
Alienware 17r4 / r5 also got  blink.gif
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....id=561158810174

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Holy sh**. i was thinking of doing DIY water cooling mod. This is the answer!

Have you guys tried using UniLight? It's an application that syncs your window colour theme to your alienfx and Logitech peripherals. I tried on my 15R4 it manages to turn my logitech G502 mouse. But Alien FX wont turn.
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post Oct 26 2018, 03:06 PM

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My 15 R4 skin just arrived today. Took 2 hrs to assemble.

https://imgur.com/a/dKiUNQo
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post Oct 26 2018, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Oct 26 2018, 04:12 PM)
nice workmanship you have there. the most difficult part is the palmrest area. i destoyed a piece , luckily i have an extra pcs.
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Thanks. This is not DBrand skin btw. Found in shopee for RM63 (+ post). Covers top bottom, inside and both sides. The glue is not crazy strong, so can reapply many times

QUOTE(nicks @ Oct 26 2018, 04:34 PM)
Wahh so nice
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Get yours here: Alienware Carbon Fiber Skin

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post Nov 4 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(capsulr @ Oct 30 2018, 03:25 AM)
Booted up my laptop today and got a heart attack, screen was black, look closely the screen is on just no backlight, had to hard restart the pc then only it turn on, should I be worried?
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My screen will do this from time to time. It won't display anything waking up after hibernation. Close the lid (it'll hibernate) and turning it back on again do the trick. Anyone experiencing the same thing?
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post Dec 12 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Dec 2 2018, 12:27 PM)
A couple of Apple users at a cafe were like "What the hell is that with side lights???"
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I get this a lot. At a cafe, office and client's office. But god knows the thermal on this thing. sweat.gif

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post Dec 14 2018, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jay Chua CC @ Dec 12 2018, 10:11 AM)
very rare drag this tank to cafes coz need to bring that extra power brick along, as if the laptop not heavy enough. hhaha. still macbook is the best for cafe
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Indeed too big and heavy. Even when the Light FX is off, it still attracts attention. Planning to get Microsoft Surface Go for mobile use.

Talking about Light FX, have anyone tried the Unilight program by HunterZ? https://github.com/HunterZ/UniLight. I Own Logitech G502 mouse and the program syncs Windows colour theme with the RGB mouse perfectly. But the Alien Light FX doesn't seem to be changing. Installed ACC V 5.2.17.0 on my machine.

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