Hello.. hoping for Recommendation and Opinion and Better Drive Experience(for owner) In Car service.. drive feeling and interior/exterior Quality.. car for Nissan Sylphy 1.8VL (top spec)3year warranty or 100,000Km or Honda Civic 2.0 Navi(top spec) and Honda HIP Insurance is it all that ? 5 year warranty no mileage limit ?? for Honda

Reason for this Question.. End this month or June thinking to buy NEW car Budget RM100K - 125K (yes i know Civic 134K but read about 5Year Warranty and HIP insurance.. plan wow! )

Declaration** I am Total Noob in Car.. so before come a post regarding "OH u noob tu dunno eh!? You dunno what that mean eh? " so on..

ADD-ON: Renault Fluence = price and the car interior/exterior with rear camera is wow! RM110K+ problem is Service center is seem to be lacking in kampung /small town..

Thank you ALL FOR opinion much appreciate.. Sorry if my word offended.. but deepest my heart thanx all



This post has been edited by Unseen83: Jun 13 2015, 05:20 PM

I'm no expert but budget wise can consider Mazda 3 and Subaru XV as well for Japanese car?? Personally I would pick Mazda 3 on looks alone

I recommend the top spec Mazda 3 CKD sedan, the toys alone is worth drooling...

if you recommend different car i ask for, than better u put up link.. price.. xx

Lazy fella....search review in paultan. Great website for automobile. Just don't read too much comment from the user there though

But seriously, Honda Civic is not really recommended as the model is going to be replaced soon as its about 5 yrs old now I think.

This post has been edited by Dum^Dum: May 14 2015, 04:18 PM

better u look at service cost and spare parts for both car.

Right im lazy... so how is it the mazda 3? ? sory is just mazda not in my radar at all.. and also im noob i already explain on threads... x but u been so not lazy... and know soo much about mazda be kind to tell more.. not just dis and post... kinda a bit lazy.. know ?

i go to mazda site http://www.mazda.com.my/ seem to be alot pop up and video.. ?? i want straight price and pic.. eh

Lazy TS

http://www.carbase.my/mazda

thx for link... Mazda 3 got 3.5 star rate... hm seem to be bad as their Mazda site,..

Their site is hopeless... (Mazda). I recommend it because it because it is a better deal compared to Honda Civic or Nissan Sylphy, and it is in the same price range.

Bro if u want civic 2.o better take teana 2.0 133k only best safety and also higher segment car...

Civic if u go honda website see the comment on fb u know the build quality is questionable

mazda 3 is a good choice..but the boot space is quite small.

Sylphy platform used for European renault.. drive feel is good.. albeit its outlook being slightly roundish.. its sagety eq is top class

+May 14 2015, 05:16 PM-->ok thx. what is sagety top class" ? what you mean.?

+May 14 2015, 05:12 PM-->okay, thx hmm Civic navi.. hm i think better go Accord standard is same price civic navi.. x

sorry not interested in Mazda... it don't look appealing to me.. and worried service center.. and i understand it look appealing to some ppl as it look sporty... im a old guy use the car to drive to work and every 3 month go long drive to IJN KL Mother check up(from JB)

you are buying a 100 plus k car, which you will be stuck with probably 3 - 5 years ... do some research first before you ask la ...

yes i am.. purchase is next month i be with car 5 year ++

TS, the below youtube video can help you make your decision as well.

It's car review from Australia but its quite informative.

*From the video...
Nissan Pulsar = Nissan Sylphy
Toyota Corrolla = Toyota Altis
Subaru Impreza = Can be Subaru XV i think

https://youtu.be/pt5UTFuQUys

Hope this helps you make your decision

base what aussie guy saying Civic and Mitsubishi Lancer is outdated... well not broken why fix ? and Nissan Pulsar unreliable Manual gear.. eh Nissan Sylphy is CVT he also added unreliability CVT in Nissan car... but base on what fact on base.com ppl happy with their CVT.. hm.. but again thx... and Way dis Proton too quick.. i am Melayu malaysia i can't stand dis malay car. (even so i am not buying proton car, but i am using proton car it is great car )

I had to read so many times to understand what u r trying to say

if you can't understand it, MOVE ON you understand that ?

In the RM100-125k price range, you have many choices. In the end it will depend on what you are looking for a what is more important to you - the exterior looks, interior looks, interior quality, driving experience, NVH, resale value, aftermarket service and support etc.

Apart from the Nissan Sylphy and Honda Civic, you may want to explore Toyota Altis, Mazda 3, Peugeot 408T, Renault Fluence and Ford Focus.

FWIW I have owned the previous generation Sylphy 2.0. Not too sure how the current model compares with the previous generation model but if you want a quiet and comfortable car with smooth acceleration, the Sylphy is a good choice but performance and driving dynamics are lacking. Tan Chong's after-sales service is good if not great.

If you want resale value, Honda Civic and Toyota Altis would be good choices but to me they are overpriced for what they have to offer against other alternatives. Though there is no doubt about their resale. The current Civic is not as popular or well-received when compared to the previous generation Civic though (the previous generation Civic is thought to be the best model Honda had managed to come up with in terms design).

After-sales service and support of Japanese cars (Honda, Toyota and Nissan) are usually reliable when compared to the cheaper continentals. Mazda's support is a bit lacking but is improving.

If you want elevated driving experience compared to the Japanese cars you may want to look at the Ford Focus. But after-sales service is not as good as the Japanese, and resale value is also not as good.

i am .. impress thank you for word.. i will consider the choice you name except the Mazda3 as i feel look sporty to me(i understand most ppl interest in it's look, but way their site.. and lack so many way is kinda tell tale they don't care ) yes i am looking for Quiet, comfortable car with smooth acceleration (i got old mother to look after and once while i want her be very comfy when seat for long journey drive JB to KL IJN) hmm MEanwhile Civic /Toyota do have Great Resale value Yes i notice that when i did my First research i saw their call still selling 60-70% original value after 5 year.. that is amazing... and why i added to my option of purchase. again Thank you for reply base on my Question

if sedan is not the must-have, then may i suggest XV?

if japanese is not the must-have, i'll personally go for Cerato.

if die die also must choose between Sylphy and Civic, sorry to say, Sylphy anytime anyday over Civic.

its vulgar to judge a car from just paper stats

important thing is how a car makes u feel when u driving it

if u look for calm relaxing drive,pick sylphy

nissan place great priority in NVH in these recent years of car making,its a quality not mentioned in brochures,but its one attributes that matter most as driver

This post has been edited by Valentino46: May 15 2015, 07:14 AM

Actually, for fetching elderly parents = a taller car like the Subaru XV or even Honda HR-V or the upcoming Mazda CX-3 makes sense. Elderly folks find it much easier to get on and off the car!

not if elderly got osteoporosis, for them to get into car is painful... and to get out again same.. eh i have to pick/lift her up each time...

Update: i add Renault Fluence into 2 choice... Price+ what car come with is hard to denied it's into my List hmm

http://fluence.com.my/pdf/L38_PH3_brochure.pdf

Thank you for the output.. will consider your word into my research..

xv is not bad..but very small boot compared to hrv. so overall for normal usage, hrv win.

i pick XV over HRV for few simple reasons:

1) driveability and handling. test driven both, HRV during roadshow and XV belongs to a friend. in terms of driving "excitement", HRV is far behind XV.
2) get away from brand name, as i can see 70% of Honda owners (regardless of which model) tend to purchase the car because of brand.

HRV might be having a bigger bootspace than its rival, but lets be realistic, how frequent do we cramp everything into our car? once in a blue moon? consumer tends to get something more than what they really need, same theory applies for car as well.

anyway, i am not saying that HRV is bad, it is not at all. only that those seeking an entry level SUV should really check out XV, who knows it might surprise u.

yes very frequent unless u use it as 2nd car. but for its price, some people bought it as primary car to ferry family members. i have to agree with u that in terms of driveability, xv win. due to impreza chassis and awd capability (proven in rally scene). but how many people can notice or appreciate those characteristic?
it's not about brand name..but being realistic, same price but more on space and safety spec. something more is very subjective since both car is 5 seater and hrv is not that huge..i'm not talking about 7 seater vs subaru xv.

It's unfair to compare HR-V n XV as HR-V is a B-seg while XV is C-seg. However, Honda's ingenious design has made the HR-V more roomy than the XV.

I have not driven the HR-V but looking at a package, it is decent as a family car. I sat on the XV and felt less impressed with the XV's poor drivetrain, NVH and space.

This post has been edited by gettodachoppa: May 15 2015, 04:42 PM

sylphy anytime over the civic fullstop

sylphy win over civic if u looking for comfy

what about Renault Fluence vs Nissan Sylphy 1.8VL with IMPUL Aerokit

If u want less headache, of course nissan laa..easier to get parts and lots of service centre if u stuck in the middle of nowhere

Renault malaysia managed by tan chong if not mistaken.

that is correct around my 35KM range there about 2 Authorize Nissan Service center.

Fluence - old slyphy engine and chassis

Slyphy currently selling - new engine and chassis.

New slyphy - go for full spec. Basic spec make the car look like apek. Full spec slyphy will make civic look like toy car. In safety, interior and exterior.

And don't blinded by brand as most Malaysian. Civic is an overprice C segment car for its full spec where you can FIND a lot of options instead a company to treat their customer life like rubbish.

If you go for Civic don't get the Navi. The Navi unit is not worth the extra RM7K over the 2.0S. It is probably worth only RM2K.

You should give Mazda 3 a chance. The high spec is cheaper than Civic 2.0S but beat it soundly on specs and equipment. The Mazda website is hard to navigate. Do your research at paultan's website

This post has been edited by KennyKB: May 17 2015, 11:04 PM

Do consider the Mazda 3 2.0 high spec CKD. I think its a really good deal at that price with the offered specs for such a good looking car. Thats coming from me, a diehard Honda fan.

No near Service center for MAzda my area.. and i Really do not like the look... But thank you for Recommendation xx Do note: One reason i going for Nissan Saleman Helping me to sell my Unwanted Pesona 1.6 AT(2011) at least it cover my Current Car loan(which is around 23K Nissan Saleman manage to get buyer RM24K) Meanwhile other Proton/Honda/Toyota sales man manage to get trade in value RM22K- 23K xx

I book(Brilliant Silver) Nissan Sylphy 1.8VL with IMPUL Complete Kit (17 inch Alloy(design) Sport Spring/ Aerokit body by IMPUL) +Door Visor/Pedal sport/back compartment(Nissan)/ LED Kicker(Nissan) + Standard Tinting 70%(silver) NOTE: all this Pay none Free or complementary... Salesman say get all in than he give me Lum sum Discount/rebate...xx

Total cost RM RM131,818.65 - (Loan 90% RM118,000) = Deposit RM13,818.65 - Booking FEE RM1,000 - RM2,000(NCD 55%) - RM7,318.65 Rebate (Sylphy 2014 November edition) So Total RM4,853.35 and he finally minus RM 3.35 so final pay deposit is RM4.85K

Finance by AM Bank 90% LOAN 5 year monthly payment RM2,212 FIX rate Interest rate is 2.49% !! (islamic finance reason in-case late payment or delay just 1% penalty charge/Normal conventional commercial charge 5-8% higher)

NOTE : regarding Loan lowest i found/ been offer is by BSN interest 2.29% !! but i have to drive all way to another town... xxx so lazy and difference is just 0.19% Meanwhile BANK Muamalat/MAYBANK worse... 2.87%/2.79% for 5 year 90% loan xx

i prefer buy with CASH if not don't buy. since u bought don't think so much. if i see u in BP, i go see see

buy cash... right, well im not you so no large amount cash to full pay car, u wanna see BP hmm well have to wait than.. cause salesman say 2-3 week wait... than i get car, is gonna be long wait Zzz if i got it i sure upload the car pic but no need to see see la.. is just Nissan Sylphy not BMW or Audi car cost RM200K-600K

This post has been edited by Unseen83: May 26 2015, 09:25 PM

seem u like BMW & AUDI. both is lala ppl drive one & no study one.. at bp who drive this kinda mostly family very rich or doin hanky panky stuff. 1-2% really like AUDI & BMW. i still prefer BENZ.

nissan or honda? better than nissan. honda is under proton. cinis like honda so much. around ur budget i will get toyota altis more reliable. i'm anti honda just like i anti amd.

This post has been edited by ngkhanmein: May 26 2015, 09:31 PM

i like Bmw /audi ? eh right why i drive pesona for 5 year...

see senior lecture/ professor/ associate prof driving Audi and BMW where i work.. and you don't always have to be from very rich family or doing illegal stuff to drive this car.. just work as gov servant with base pay rm 6K or higher sure can but take longer loan... and some drive Mazda 3 (rm150K)

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i got neighbor his a teacher secondary school and his wife same got 4 kids lagi.. but drive Honda city Hybrid and Proton Exora Turbo.. (combi car price will be around rm110K -150K) and male nurse working in Uthm i know driving Honda City i am sure his base pay rm 1.4K -1.6K, i think need to have good employer (stable pay with less or no other financial commitment) sure car store salesman will help you applied for Loan.. and success rate getting Hire Loan is very good for Gov servant.. xx

rather take the money buy property. u don't knw ppl background.

yes better get house.. x but for me i already own a house(house loan)

You personal feel happy then is everything.Just enjoy your car and welcome to the sylphy family.
We have some facebook group,you can join and disccuss there.

i remember TanChong used to offer loan to buyers. how is their interest rate?

i cannot say.. as i gone true AM bank... 2.46% interest 90% loan (RM118,000.00) 5 year RM 2,209.00+ if i am not mistaken total rm132 K i ending paying back to AM Bank after 5 year... i just MSG my salesman.. he say Nissan TCCR( their loan ) give out loan but interest rate is 2.8-2.9% a bit high x

i feel happy and excited.. dislike the wait.. 2-3 week but this is so excited for me to First time own/drive import car... haha been on Pesona ben wagon since i started to work..

persona prone with issue. my persona don't know sent to proton edar how many times. noob proton. buy any car as long ntg related with proton, lotus, hyundai, kia & honda.

well my pesona serv me well.. no die no issues going long drive to JB - KL or JB KElantan.. all good as long as Service follow the mileage all is good for my Pesona.. is just time to move on after nearly 4 year ++

for old folks with bone problems, TS should be looking at cars with soft ride and not SUV like XV which has stiff and bouncy suspension

maybe mine is unlucky. damn sux persona.

so u have decided which to buy?

if u wanna save money go for hyundai elantra.

yea i think why i choose Nissan Sylphy... on test drive my mom say like quite sound at the back. x oh smooth too

yup..

quite?hehhe...the tyre sound is quite loud.

well i drive pesona before so when test drive sylphy feel quieter and i took complete IMPUL Tuned.. Tyres/spring/aerokit body/rims all add on except the Vkool+Navi

in my humble opinion, i think you should take the navi. as the navi i upgraded in my almera works superb!

it's over my budget ... if i took Almera maybe i buy Navi.. but total cost me RM132K for this Sylphy.. so i am strain to hold over spending.. i even go cheap on Tinting.. lolx

In that case I advise you to set your sights lower. When you skimp on certain details, it'll eventually result in buyer's remorse. You don't want to be wondering "What if..." after spending 130k.

haha, but u get the sport spring instead. Last time before i but almera, used to consider sylphy. personally, i like the sylphy without the impul.

Although I had owned the Sylphy 2.0 previous generation, I still had a soft spot for the car. The strengths of the Sylphy are in the quietness and spaciousness/comfort at the back seat due to good legroom. It is a nice car for the family.

This post has been edited by SportyHandling: May 28 2015, 12:18 PM

xx well Salesman give me pic what my(Brilliant Silver) Nissan Sylphy 1.8VL with IMPUL Tuned(i took complete set not just Aerokit/ but spring /Tyres/RIM LED kicker all small assessor) Tomorrow Friday he call me to confirm to take MY TRADE-in car(proton Pesona 1.6 auto M-line 2011) so he bring in a Test drive Car (he say Almera to tier with Nismo tuned)
<- my current car look same eh lol
Sport spring include with the IMPUL Tuned Complete Kit offer RM6K i do not add NAVI and Vkool Elite /Solar arm coat EACH cost another RM3K ++ TO BE honest i have CASH only RM12K xxx (was suppose to be a Dual GPU upgrade for my Computer RIG AMD R9 390X but.. hate wait.. and i got already Dual GPU R9 290X)

** i could go over my reserve/ or Credit cards.. but i feel dumb stupid after using money i safe for raining day or get on Debt on Credit card just i get overprice ipad for the car** just my opinion do not meant to offend...

yes sir same reason i choose it with Impul tuned look bad @ss haha and this be my first time own drive import car.. all this time i was saving up.. and just look at other ppl drive hot car(anyone drive non malay car i call hot car ).. i was like ehh oneday

This post has been edited by Unseen83: May 28 2015, 06:39 PM

For me i dont like the performance kit on almera which include sport suspension and exhaust, as the ride is quite harsh at my area. BTW, sylphy is bloody hot and sexy, especially red colour one, compared to last sylphy. only slight drawback is that, no paddle shift to play with.. Nice choice bro! sylphy comes with rear air vent right? cannot remember already, test drive last year

is it call performance kit ? i thought just Body enhancement.. as a lot review say Almera/Sylphy design/look blank Ugly/ old man look lol so after Nismo aerokit introduce Almera sale improve.. as now look sporty... and Sylphy... eh.. i DO not like the look without IMPUL, with IMPUL it look more sporty... yes Sylphy 1.8VL come with Rear aircond Vent.. also Xenon Front light is auto adjusted with auto washer... eh wow now i know how to annoy those ppl who hav same auto adjusted zenon light.. **i was dring my pesona at night one time than come front car his zenon light blind me up.. eh so strange their light seem to self adjusted flash toward my eye.. now i can do same.. huhui

@ i can criticize car as im buying one xx

haha, some sort of performance stuff, could not remember the exact name. Do sylphy have nismo? For my car, nismo is a lot better looking than impul.

naah NISMO for Almera IMPUL for Livina/Sylphy

yo... have you read news mass Recall of Japan car in North America

Buatan 2014 full-spec only 7.3k disc & u signed?
Ur SA must be a sexy pretty lady

This is very true for d 2.0 sylphy, JDM spec ma...but the current 1.8 look more like a bigger Almera. Never drive b4 but does not look as promising... at least to me la.

They say(edaran tan chong) Nissan sylphy only got 2014 in malaysia.. and RM7.3K rebate +NCD rm2K x also free 2 nissan umbrella Steering lock.

Add-on: my sale adviser is Male, Chinese he was very polite/respectful toward my old mother when i visit the showroom.. offer water + lunch nasi ayam ALSO.. he take my Proton Pesona 1.6 Auto(2011) trade in RM24K... before i come Nissan i try to trade-in proton Inspira they offer me only RM22K / Honda RM23K.. so i go with Nissan... x

This post has been edited by Unseen83: May 31 2015, 05:44 PM

Update**

So today Sale adviser Visit to inform me that my car is delay a bit is in Puspakom in selangor and later be install IMPUL full kit.. hmm
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He also take my Pesona(2011) away from me... xx trade in with Nissan Serena s-Hybrid... (2014)

Note.. i am scare to drive this.. tomorrow gonna go work with basikal.. until my order car with me.. wth.. click door open woo.. lolx

**Update wow Exp my first time Nissan Service center, very efficient! well accepted.. comfy place to wait and Coffee/Tea/Milo available... what good Engine/Body wash is provided include with Service for Free*~!

Location : Batu Pahat Nissan Service center.
Quality: Good / polite
Other: change the Mineral oil to Semi synthetic oil (engine)
Damage: RM190+ Gst

1:st adding to my Nissan Sylphy Daytime running LED xx

Update** 2nd 5,000KM Service x

Location : Batu Pahat Nissan Service center.
Quality: Good / polite
Other: change the Mineral oil to Semi synthetic oil (engine) + engineTreatment
Damage: RM190+ Gst

Change Boot Light to 2 Feet LED xx bright all round clear / change interior Light to White LED x

Hi, would like to ask, mine one is low spec without fog light but i am interested to install the fog light and the day time running light, do you have any idea how i should do this? will this void the warranty? Roughly also how much to do this ? thanks.

you don't want to void warranty.. so do it in shop that know how to.. and i call TCS to confirm.. Engine/gear box other component(break disc,wheel so on) do not get void.. but try avoid Cut wired and if you need to doclaim like battery take off your DLR/fog light. price RM150 to 800 brands phillip is the best but cost more

Thanks bro! Do you know where can i buy this in Malaysia? I have checked that a lot from China...

And i am from Ipoh...now still looking around a shop that know how to install this.

get good one, better with warranty.. and before deal shop tell them to agree to HELP you remove the light/dlr in case you need to claim warranty. than do it at that shop. AND do not be cheapo.. spend on quality light to put on sylphy.. she worth it!

Ok, thanks for your advice..

update..

Thanks for the updates. How's the driving experience and fuel consumption so far?

Driving is OKAY, cornering is good 5Meter , FC full tank Ron95 RM65-70 Ron97 RM80-90

only annoying is if you add IMPUL sports spring that lower car you may exp increase NVH(can hear water flow when road is wet or rain) but can be reduce by adding door,Front/rear fender a soundproofing substance.. but it's lower enough to past the Road speed bump or road hill without touching your car..