base what aussie guy saying Civic and Mitsubishi Lancer is outdated... well not broken why fix ? and Nissan Pulsar unreliable Manual gear.. eh Nissan Sylphy is CVT he also added unreliability CVT in Nissan car... but base on what fact on base.com ppl happy with their CVT.. hm.. but again thx... and Way dis Proton too quick.. i am Melayu malaysia i can't stand dis malay car. (even so i am not buying proton car, but i am using proton car it is great car )

I had to read so many times to understand what u r trying to say

if you can't understand it, MOVE ON you understand that ?

In the RM100-125k price range, you have many choices. In the end it will depend on what you are looking for a what is more important to you - the exterior looks, interior looks, interior quality, driving experience, NVH, resale value, aftermarket service and support etc.

Apart from the Nissan Sylphy and Honda Civic, you may want to explore Toyota Altis, Mazda 3, Peugeot 408T, Renault Fluence and Ford Focus.

FWIW I have owned the previous generation Sylphy 2.0. Not too sure how the current model compares with the previous generation model but if you want a quiet and comfortable car with smooth acceleration, the Sylphy is a good choice but performance and driving dynamics are lacking. Tan Chong's after-sales service is good if not great.

If you want resale value, Honda Civic and Toyota Altis would be good choices but to me they are overpriced for what they have to offer against other alternatives. Though there is no doubt about their resale. The current Civic is not as popular or well-received when compared to the previous generation Civic though (the previous generation Civic is thought to be the best model Honda had managed to come up with in terms design).

After-sales service and support of Japanese cars (Honda, Toyota and Nissan) are usually reliable when compared to the cheaper continentals. Mazda's support is a bit lacking but is improving.

If you want elevated driving experience compared to the Japanese cars you may want to look at the Ford Focus. But after-sales service is not as good as the Japanese, and resale value is also not as good.

i am .. impress thank you for word.. i will consider the choice you name except the Mazda3 as i feel look sporty to me(i understand most ppl interest in it's look, but way their site.. and lack so many way is kinda tell tale they don't care ) yes i am looking for Quiet, comfortable car with smooth acceleration (i got old mother to look after and once while i want her be very comfy when seat for long journey drive JB to KL IJN) hmm MEanwhile Civic /Toyota do have Great Resale value Yes i notice that when i did my First research i saw their call still selling 60-70% original value after 5 year.. that is amazing... and why i added to my option of purchase. again Thank you for reply base on my Question

if sedan is not the must-have, then may i suggest XV?

if japanese is not the must-have, i'll personally go for Cerato.

if die die also must choose between Sylphy and Civic, sorry to say, Sylphy anytime anyday over Civic.

its vulgar to judge a car from just paper stats

important thing is how a car makes u feel when u driving it

if u look for calm relaxing drive,pick sylphy

nissan place great priority in NVH in these recent years of car making,its a quality not mentioned in brochures,but its one attributes that matter most as driver

This post has been edited by Valentino46: May 15 2015, 07:14 AM

Actually, for fetching elderly parents = a taller car like the Subaru XV or even Honda HR-V or the upcoming Mazda CX-3 makes sense. Elderly folks find it much easier to get on and off the car!

not if elderly got osteoporosis, for them to get into car is painful... and to get out again same.. eh i have to pick/lift her up each time...

Update: i add Renault Fluence into 2 choice... Price+ what car come with is hard to denied it's into my List hmm

http://fluence.com.my/pdf/L38_PH3_brochure.pdf

Thank you for the output.. will consider your word into my research..

xv is not bad..but very small boot compared to hrv. so overall for normal usage, hrv win.

i pick XV over HRV for few simple reasons:

1) driveability and handling. test driven both, HRV during roadshow and XV belongs to a friend. in terms of driving "excitement", HRV is far behind XV.
2) get away from brand name, as i can see 70% of Honda owners (regardless of which model) tend to purchase the car because of brand.

HRV might be having a bigger bootspace than its rival, but lets be realistic, how frequent do we cramp everything into our car? once in a blue moon? consumer tends to get something more than what they really need, same theory applies for car as well.

anyway, i am not saying that HRV is bad, it is not at all. only that those seeking an entry level SUV should really check out XV, who knows it might surprise u.

yes very frequent unless u use it as 2nd car. but for its price, some people bought it as primary car to ferry family members. i have to agree with u that in terms of driveability, xv win. due to impreza chassis and awd capability (proven in rally scene). but how many people can notice or appreciate those characteristic?
it's not about brand name..but being realistic, same price but more on space and safety spec. something more is very subjective since both car is 5 seater and hrv is not that huge..i'm not talking about 7 seater vs subaru xv.

It's unfair to compare HR-V n XV as HR-V is a B-seg while XV is C-seg. However, Honda's ingenious design has made the HR-V more roomy than the XV.

I have not driven the HR-V but looking at a package, it is decent as a family car. I sat on the XV and felt less impressed with the XV's poor drivetrain, NVH and space.

This post has been edited by gettodachoppa: May 15 2015, 04:42 PM

sylphy anytime over the civic fullstop

sylphy win over civic if u looking for comfy

what about Renault Fluence vs Nissan Sylphy 1.8VL with IMPUL Aerokit

If u want less headache, of course nissan laa..easier to get parts and lots of service centre if u stuck in the middle of nowhere

Renault malaysia managed by tan chong if not mistaken.