i won't consider it major if it was for the sound as the solution for it is easy, just get the screws that comes along with those rubber rings... now what about the air flow, what method do we have to solve it

fyi, the reason why i give a damn on the intake fan so so much is bcoz of the (exlain below) & the whining sound produce (like i experienced it with my V600 + Vizo Starlet --> can't stand it anymore )

yup, ur rite, LL using another weird air flow the case...

for me that method can only be use in the old days, where CPU is the hottest component, today VGA took its place, so u gonna need all the air flow u can get

CPU = 90nm --> 60nm --> 45nm --> 32nm (cooler cooler cooler)
VGA = power --> power + power --> power + power + power (hotter + hotter + hotter)

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Apr 16 2007, 03:26 PM

all the cooler like Zalman Flower Type will fits ur description
1. Zalman Flower Type Cooler
2. Thermaltake Blue OrbII
3. Thermalright XP-120
4. Cooler Master Gemini II

other words, look for a cooler that is not the tower type cooler & is a cooler which got a fan blowing towards the mobo, that's the main purpose of the air duct, to provide the cooler a direct fresh air blowing towards it instead sucking the air into it

errr, not those HR-01 fan duct la, i think he meant the Lian Li Fan Duct like this:



i thought u are one of the Lian Li freaks should have known better which fan duct he was talking about

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Apr 22 2007, 01:11 PM

errr, ur case got higher 2nd hand value than modded case with the same type

although u spent RM300 on modding alone doesn't increase your 2nd value case when u decided to sell em cause when u mod, u mod it with your preference, what if the buyer doesn't like your preference? plus if u sell em expensively, the buyer better opt to buy a new one

when u buy the seperate transparent side panel, u can keep em and use em on ur new case, this is one of the bestest thing with Lian Li, their transparent side panel are all fitted with the same dimension or class, like V-Series with other V-Series, or Classic Series with other Classic Series. Don't u think so

those wheels can only installed with those case that originally comes with the wheels

but u still can use em, have to mod la of course

fyi, the wheels alone cost around RM300 (ask ATE if don't believe me), but if u buy from those US Online Shops, only cost u around RM150 (got black color somemore with those rubber strap around the wheels --> avoids starch on the wheel & ur desk/floor)

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Apr 26 2007, 10:42 AM

i ask ATE directly (not by phone) can't remember which one lor
dat's when i wanna buy V600 & still have some money, decided to buy/order the wheels, they said RM300 like fxxk man, like dat better i buy the V1000, same price if i buy V600 + wheels

dat was last year, dunno but today, seems some of forumer here said is RM150+ walo, dat's damn cheap even cheaper than buying from those Online Shops

their design is perfect already, they just need to add/change some features only, dat's all

This post has been edited by E-J@1: Apr 27 2007, 07:02 PM

ATE stil have stocks for it? little or many?

original fan (Lian Li default fan) use thumbscrew, dunno what's the best use of it

the purpose of it to ease the fan move aside left-to-right or right-to-left

who's the hell wanna move their fan 24/7 + not to mention have to remove ur side panel first

1. Those default fan got a nut that is fit for the thumbscrew thread (M3 thread)
2. If wanna use different fan = take out the nuts & put them into ur new fan
3. Instead using that stupid thumbscrew, just buy those long screws + their nuts, better bring along those fuc*in ugly side case fan metal thingy part to the shops & test the screws & nuts --> make sure not too short & not too long

tell me how often u change the graphic card's cooler? coz from ur statement:

"i like to move the fan to fix the place which is the near my GC card fan"

seems to me that:

1. u always change ur vga cooler
   
2. then u have to move the case fan --> get closest to ur cooler's fan
   
3. so tell me how often u change ur vga cooler till u have to move ur case fan that often
   

now ain't i'm rite?

u can take it out, by force la

use force strong enough to let the nut out

there's no other way for u to use the thumbscrew on the fan except by taking the original Lian Li nut...

& don't even think u finding the nut at the hardware shop, damn hard, anyway gud luck if u intend to find it

This post has been edited by E-J@1: May 21 2007, 10:01 AM

then whether u like it or not, only two option for u coz the liking of your's towards the moveable fan:

1. either use the original Lian Li fan until it dead or
   
   
2. take the nut by force & put em on other fans
   
   

don't push through the thread hole of course the thread will spoil one, push on the side of the nut, dunno what to use, just apply same pressure on the nut's side (not front & back) right & left

i'm sure it won't spoil the nut, then u just have to glue it to ur new fan





let me makes things clear for u, whether u like it or not, the nut must be taken out & if u afraid to spoil the nut & rather use the original fan instead, go ahead, use em till it will be dead, then when wanna replace the fan u know u can't use the thumbscrew on the new fan, so regardless what fan u wanna use on that moveable fan slot, the nut must be taken out, just matter of time for the nut to be taken out


later i'll post pic of mine side fan, what i use to replace those stupid thumbscrew

This post has been edited by E-J@1: May 21 2007, 10:31 AM

i asked 7 hardware shops in my place (not those computer hardware shop) all of em were shocked seeing the thumbscrew i brought with to see whether they got the nut for it to go with....

they shocked bcoz they never seen such thread --> so small & halus...
they said to me, they never even sold or seen that kind of thread b4, i dunno is it my hardware shop area, or all hardware shop in M'sia, so gud luck finding one

btw, all the hardware shops i asked is in Seremban & Senawang, dunno bout KL

wait ar, still searching those side panel fan, where the heck did i put it?

since i'm not using it anymore

as promise

here's the items:

1. 120mm fan - Raidmax (already dead)
2. Side can fan holder
3. screws & nuts (found in my hardware shop area)
4. Lian Li thumbscrew

okay here's what i did to replace the thumbscrews
the screws are just nice to fit those tiny long holes, i didn't hear any vibration coz i screwed the fan tight, & i mean tight till the fan frame bent a bit, not too tight though, otherwise ur fan will break





surprise, surprise
the nut i bought actually fits Lian Li thumbscrew
here's the prove





so vincent09 , there's ur solution, u just have to figure out how to place the nuts in ur fans, ask AllnGap whether he can do this for u


well for me the wheels do help me a lot, coz i move a lot, from one house to another (mine house --> friend's house --> hostel: room-to-room --> LAN Party )

don't forget to bring along the fan + side case fan frame, just to be sure u bought the right length of screw & the right size of screw, don't want it to be too short or too big to fit

This post has been edited by E-J@1: May 21 2007, 05:34 PM

how it end up broken? open ur front panel a lot? coz, it's not easy to break em if handle with care

better have a strong magnet to hold that heavy front panel

is that yours?

why wanna put mesh filter for the exhaust? don't wanna the dust to get out ka

better remove those filter & replace it with finger guard lor

This post has been edited by E-J@1: May 23 2007, 04:43 PM

dat's what i said earlier, replace the mesh filter with fan grills on all exhaust fans...

better as in:

1. Filtering dust (if a filter is good filtering all the dust, not even a little dust in --> for sure the air flow goes through it is low
   )
2. Higher CFM (if a filter let through high CFM --> then not good filtering dust)

u can't have em both best (CFM High & Good Filtering Dust) ain't i'm rite?

but of course, it's up to ur standards on how to judge the filter is good or not

get the Silverstone FP33

u will get both controller --> PCI Slot & 3" Bay Controller

depends on ur hardware temp, is ur proc hot? is ur vga hot?

if both of these hardware are cool in temp, don't bother getting additional fan, it doesn't mean if u add more fan in ur case, the temp will drop like crazy...

example if i got 10 intake & 10 exhaust fan doesn't mean my hardware will get the same temp as if i were using watercooling, hell if its works, i think some of the watercooling users will opt this option coz less hassle in managing it, have to monitor from time to time to make sure no leakage & yada yada yada....

although u got 3 exhaust fan (PSU Fan + FM121 + FM82) sucking out all air inside the case, it's not like ur case is "kedap udara", fresh air will eventually get in by those crack or tiny holes, don't worry lor

if ur hardware is hot, it means the hardwares are hungry for fresh air

if ur hardware already in an acceptable temp range don't bother getting an additional fan --> if really wanna add more intake fan, prepare to reschedule ur cleaning time table for the case

This post has been edited by E-J@1: May 25 2007, 10:17 AM

why wanna go for smaller case?

PC-A05 --> i just the front panel just two slots for 5" Bay

just one thing i dislike, the side panel, sure be great if Lian Li produce transparent side panel for it, u think u can get the plain one?

hahaha one of the main reason why i hate casings with doors, same goes to those front connectors cover (if got replacement --> no problem with me)

maybe u can ask ATE bout that replacement, who knows? maybe they can help

btw, how did it get looose?

huh, wanna sell it ka? i'm interested in getting one

PC-7S came with normal side panel, just plain one, no window, no 25cm hole

u mean bring any Lian Li case (even the cheapo one will give RM200 rebate)

how bout modded one? do they accept for trade in?