w3 is a great game u look at it from ur point of view thats it

how bout the tower war and melee games...sometime also boring with DOTA and play tower...

one of these specimens already did. and created a topic titled "is dota same with wow? " in World of Warcraft forums.
lol.

do you play melee on bnet? i need to find long term partner

I just sayed tht BLIZZARD wants to keep it's fans in touch of the game. So, MAYBE Map Editor is one of their plans. And war and melee games are a map right?-- THTS wat i saw in the manual.

I thought the melee game that u guys mentioning was original Real-time strategy ?

Oh please, map editors have been bundled with RTS' since C&C Red Alert did it. Age of Empires has one, all the C&C games since then has one, even Starcraft had one.

Its nothing special that they included a map editor... If they REALLY wanted to do something special, they'd include a full SDK (Which gives you full access to everything the RTS engine can do)... Now, that would be cool, but AFAIK, no RTS developer has done it (I'm just guessing here)

melee map is the custom game that start with 5 worker and also 1 capital
also is the most basic kind of map in war3
you remind me the Starcraft map editor...
i hear my fren say it is very hard to make a map, coz it need coding much
and unlike the war3 map editor, which got option to select what event to do, and what will happen next

>>>>>> GOD, if they do that, there will be no need of having other RTS gaming around anymore, players could just create thier own RTS GAME!

yeah, I would love them to migrate DotA away from the Warcraft III platform & use some free game engines, but the bigger problem here is - they will need a some good graphic designers to make it visually appealing.

Essentially, the Warcraft 3 and Starcraft editor perform the same thing, which is to make maps for their respective games and nothing more. The only difference is complexity (Starcraft's is old and therefore not as easy to use)

You're assuming that the Warcraft 3 engine is the best RTS engine in existence... Guess what? Its not by a longshot. It can't render mass armies, it can't do squads, it doesn't have reactive unit AI (And no, Attack-move is not the best RTS AI should be able to do), it doesn't even have a physics engine. Try playing other RTS' out there and you'll begin to see how inadequate Warcraft 3 stacks up against the rest of the crowd.

Go read up on what SDK's usually allow the user. By that logic, FPS gaming wouldn't be around anymore since the release of the Quake SDK as ppl could make their FPS game. Hell, the entire Quake source code is free now... Why am I not seeing the demise of FPS' in the world? Making a game is not as easy as you seem to think.

ALamak not this shit again...

Log in the bnet, look at the bnet message of the day, there should be of a number thats login and the users that are in games, currently there are 1320 games right now. Now click on the custom games and see how many custom games are there. Point is melee players outnumbers dota players by a lot. However the numbers are declining and its very hard to search for a game these days.

They keep in touch by listening to the people who plays melee games, like when theres a glitch,exploit,advantage,disadvantage of races going on they update the patch so players like me would stfu going imba as well as improving the game. They cant care less about the map editor,ive seen very few or minor updates on the map editors.

>>> So if they make major changes on the map, will it better??
>>> Wonder some1 could intro me a melee game so i can have some view in it...

>>> Im saying tht if some1 let the RTS engine spoile out for players, thn players could create thier own RTS game, isn't it?I mean lots of possibilities.

>>> I know that other RTS are better than warcraft, like ages of empires, rise of nations/legends, lots more. LOL!!! Quake realease it's FPS engine, truly that creating games are tough, but there are still many people willing to take a try on it, maybe tomorrow u'll saw a new FPS game created using Quake FPS engine.

No people would just still whine and complain,blizzards trying theyre best to balance the game.

Hehe so your a bs playerlah, that explains a lot....

fyi a lot of good players like paulyan for example are melee players but they switched to dota cause its much of a pressure,lag etc.

This post has been edited by ubhm: Oct 24 2006, 08:06 PM

Hmmm... from all of it, i found out that looks like W3's melee game which is really attracting players.

Because it's there, whereas you have to download dota and play with your friends or 0 lags if you want to enjoy it.

And your point is? I truly feel bad for the modding scene as they've been around for decades and until now, nobody gives them some recognition... And one simple map mod takes away all its thunder. At least Counter-Strike took a lot of liberal changes to Half-Life...

My original point is that the map editor doesn't make Warcraft 3 become T3H B3ST G4M3 3V4!

Warcraft3 melee games are great la, they would certainly survive without DotA

>>> I didn't say map editor made W3 the best game. My freind-- an RTS dummer, says tht W3 not so good, even red alert2 better than it. But he plays W3 again, err.... well DotA.