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post May 2 2015, 10:44 AM, updated 11y ago

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Should I get a proper SUV, or a CUV instead? Boot space wise, horse power wise and fuel efficiency, Mazda leads with only Rm8k extra. I wouldn't mind living without keyless entry and Bi-xenon lamps though. Should I get the 2.0 Mazda CX5 GL (lowest spec) or 1.8 Honda HRV (V Spec)? Rm126k / Rm118k.

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post May 2 2015, 11:22 AM

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I will choose HRV because I don't need such a big car. The rear seat is more spacious when I tried it due to better leg room. Or maybe it is just me. smile.gif
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I will choose HRV because I don't need such a big car. The rear seat is more spacious when I tried it due to better leg room. Or maybe it is just me. smile.gif
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post May 2 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ May 2 2015, 10:44 AM)
Should I get a proper SUV, or a CUV instead? Boot space wise, horse power wise and fuel efficiency, Mazda leads with only Rm8k extra. I wouldn't mind living without keyless entry and Bi-xenon lamps though. Should I get the 2.0 Mazda CX5 GL (lowest spec) or 1.8 Honda HRV (V Spec)? Rm126k / Rm118k.
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CX-5 should be compared to CR-V, and if in terms of space when comparing with HRV, CX-5 wins.

Weight wise, CX-5 1,522kg compare to HRV 1,249kg, that is about 273kg difference. So power-to-weight ratio CX-5 74.9kW/tonne vs HRV 84.1kW/tonne. What lost in power is gained in torque, so CX-5 will have decent acceleration as it has 200Nm compare to HRV 172Nm. Power is the one determining top speed (we won't be driving at top speed here in Malaysia, unlike in Germany Autobahn), so torque is a more comparison parameter since it determines whether a car can accelerate fast enough, CX-5 131.4Nm/tonne vs. HRV 137.7Nm/tonne (quite close).

FC wise, CX-5 have i-Stop which stops your engine when you are at a traffic light, while HRV doesn't has this kind of system. So it could be comparable in terms of FC (CX-5 2.0L vs. HRV 1.8L) [only applicable to CBU unit, not CKD and CKD GL version (thanks cucubud for pointing it out)]. As Mazda is implementing Skyactiv in their design which yield about 10% more fuel efficient than its predecessors with lower compression ratio engines, something similar to Honda i-VTEC. To my experience with Honda torque converter CVT vs. Mazda Skyactiv AT, Honda needs to rev up high to get the acceleration since the will be power losses through the torque converter and a peculiar not enough power feeling with CVT, while Mazda has a built-in clutch in the torque converter to transmit 100% power to the gearbox directly when enough speed is achieve (usually 1st gear around 2k rpm the clutch will engage).

One problem with Mazda Skyactiv in foreign countries is their regular fuel is RON92, while Mazda Skyactiv engines runs at RON95, so their consumer needs to pump slightly more expensive RON95 premium fuel. Meanwhile, in Malaysia, our regular is RON95 (the RM1.95 ones), so it is well capable of running the new Mazda Skyactiv engines.

Maintenance wise, of course CX-5 will be slightly higher because it is a segment higher than HRV (it is like comparing City to Civic, of course Civic cost slightly more to maintain). The maintenance is comparable to CRV. The tyre itself can tell the difference in cost: 225/65R17 for CX-5 (bigger) vs. 215/60R16 for HRV (smaller).

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QUOTE(RicoT @ May 2 2015, 12:02 PM)
CX-5 should be compared to CR-V, and if in terms of space when comparing with HRV, CX-5 wins.

Weight wise, CX-5 1,522kg compare to HRV 1,249kg, that is about 273kg difference. So power-to-weight ratio CX-5 74.9kW/tonne vs HRV 84.1kW/tonne. What lost in power is gained in torque, so CX-5 will have decent acceleration as it has 200Nm compare to HRV 172Nm. Power is the one determining top speed (we won't be driving at top speed here in Malaysia, unlike in Germany Autobahn), so torque is a more comparison parameter since it determines whether a car can accelerate fast enough, CX-5 131.4Nm/tonne vs. HRV 137.7Nm/tonne (quite close).

FC wise, CX-5 have i-Stop which stops your engine when you are at a traffic light, while HRV doesn't has this kind of system. So it could be comparable in terms of FC (CX-5 2.0L vs. HRV 1.8L). As Mazda is implementing Skyactiv in their design which yield about 10% more fuel efficient than its predecessors with lower compression ratio engines, something similar to Honda i-VTEC. To my experience with Honda torque converter CVT vs. Mazda Skyactiv AT, Honda needs to rev up high to get the acceleration since the will be power losses through the torque converter and a peculiar not enough power feeling with CVT, while Mazda has a built-in clutch in the torque converter to transmit 100% power to the gearbox directly when enough speed is achieve (usually 1st gear around 2k rpm the clutch will engage).

One problem with Mazda Skyactiv in foreign countries is their regular fuel is RON92, while Mazda Skyactiv engines runs at RON95, so their consumer needs to pump slightly more expensive RON95 premium fuel. Meanwhile, in Malaysia, our regular is RON95 (the RM1.95 ones), so it is well capable of running the new Mazda Skyactiv engines.

Maintenance wise, of course CX-5 will be slightly higher because it is a segment higher than HRV (it is like comparing City to Civic, of course Civic cost slightly more to maintain). The maintenance is comparable to CRV. The tyre itself can tell the difference in cost: 225/65R17 for CX-5 (bigger) vs. 215/60R16 for HRV (smaller).
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No brainer, definitely the CX-5.
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post May 2 2015, 03:49 PM

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Cx 5 anytime and it looks alot better
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2 things hold me back for cx-5 are windscreen quality which easy to crack and lower arm bush sound which quite loud
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post May 2 2015, 07:14 PM

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I have chosen CX-5 over HRV. No regrets.

If you have the budget, go for CX-5. HRV is similar class with CX-3.
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post May 2 2015, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(belltower @ May 2 2015, 07:14 PM)
I have chosen CX-5 over HRV.  No regrets.

If you have the budget,  go for CX-5. HRV is similar class with CX-3.
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Did you buy the GL mid spec model or high spec 2.0?
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QUOTE(RicoT @ May 2 2015, 12:02 PM)
CX-5 should be compared to CR-V, and if in terms of space when comparing with HRV, CX-5 wins.

Weight wise, CX-5 1,522kg compare to HRV 1,249kg, that is about 273kg difference. So power-to-weight ratio CX-5 74.9kW/tonne vs HRV 84.1kW/tonne. What lost in power is gained in torque, so CX-5 will have decent acceleration as it has 200Nm compare to HRV 172Nm. Power is the one determining top speed (we won't be driving at top speed here in Malaysia, unlike in Germany Autobahn), so torque is a more comparison parameter since it determines whether a car can accelerate fast enough, CX-5 131.4Nm/tonne vs. HRV 137.7Nm/tonne (quite close).

FC wise, CX-5 have i-Stop which stops your engine when you are at a traffic light, while HRV doesn't has this kind of system. So it could be comparable in terms of FC (CX-5 2.0L vs. HRV 1.8L). As Mazda is implementing Skyactiv in their design which yield about 10% more fuel efficient than its predecessors with lower compression ratio engines, something similar to Honda i-VTEC. To my experience with Honda torque converter CVT vs. Mazda Skyactiv AT, Honda needs to rev up high to get the acceleration since the will be power losses through the torque converter and a peculiar not enough power feeling with CVT, while Mazda has a built-in clutch in the torque converter to transmit 100% power to the gearbox directly when enough speed is achieve (usually 1st gear around 2k rpm the clutch will engage).

One problem with Mazda Skyactiv in foreign countries is their regular fuel is RON92, while Mazda Skyactiv engines runs at RON95, so their consumer needs to pump slightly more expensive RON95 premium fuel. Meanwhile, in Malaysia, our regular is RON95 (the RM1.95 ones), so it is well capable of running the new Mazda Skyactiv engines.

Maintenance wise, of course CX-5 will be slightly higher because it is a segment higher than HRV (it is like comparing City to Civic, of course Civic cost slightly more to maintain). The maintenance is comparable to CRV. The tyre itself can tell the difference in cost: 225/65R17 for CX-5 (bigger) vs. 215/60R16 for HRV (smaller).
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Good to know that CX-5 2.0L got I-Stop now.
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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ May 2 2015, 07:20 PM)
Did you buy the GL mid spec model or high spec 2.0?
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Mid spec. So far so good. Am happy with the car despite it being CKD.
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QUOTE(RicoT @ May 2 2015, 12:02 PM)
CX-5 should be compared to CR-V, and if in terms of space when comparing with HRV, CX-5 wins.

Weight wise, CX-5 1,522kg compare to HRV 1,249kg, that is about 273kg difference. So power-to-weight ratio CX-5 74.9kW/tonne vs HRV 84.1kW/tonne. What lost in power is gained in torque, so CX-5 will have decent acceleration as it has 200Nm compare to HRV 172Nm. Power is the one determining top speed (we won't be driving at top speed here in Malaysia, unlike in Germany Autobahn), so torque is a more comparison parameter since it determines whether a car can accelerate fast enough, CX-5 131.4Nm/tonne vs. HRV 137.7Nm/tonne (quite close).

FC wise, CX-5 have i-Stop which stops your engine when you are at a traffic light, while HRV doesn't has this kind of system. So it could be comparable in terms of FC (CX-5 2.0L vs. HRV 1.8L) [only applicable to CBU unit, not CKD and CKD GL version (thanks cucubud for pointing it out)]. As Mazda is implementing Skyactiv in their design which yield about 10% more fuel efficient than its predecessors with lower compression ratio engines, something similar to Honda i-VTEC. To my experience with Honda torque converter CVT vs. Mazda Skyactiv AT, Honda needs to rev up high to get the acceleration since the will be power losses through the torque converter and a peculiar not enough power feeling with CVT, while Mazda has a built-in clutch in the torque converter to transmit 100% power to the gearbox directly when enough speed is achieve (usually 1st gear around 2k rpm the clutch will engage).

One problem with Mazda Skyactiv in foreign countries is their regular fuel is RON92, while Mazda Skyactiv engines runs at RON95, so their consumer needs to pump slightly more expensive RON95 premium fuel. Meanwhile, in Malaysia, our regular is RON95 (the RM1.95 ones), so it is well capable of running the new Mazda Skyactiv engines.

Maintenance wise, of course CX-5 will be slightly higher because it is a segment higher than HRV (it is like comparing City to Civic, of course Civic cost slightly more to maintain). The maintenance is comparable to CRV. The tyre itself can tell the difference in cost: 225/65R17 for CX-5 (bigger) vs. 215/60R16 for HRV (smaller).
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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 2 2015, 08:07 PM)
Good to know that CX-5 2.0L got I-Stop now.
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No, the new GL doesn't have i-Stop. Sorry for the confusion.
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QUOTE(belltower @ May 2 2015, 08:16 PM)
Mid spec.  So far so good.  Am happy with the car despite it being CKD.
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I've read reviews that the cx5 has loud tyre and road noises, is that true with your cx5? How is the NVH levels compared with HRV?
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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ May 2 2015, 09:05 PM)
I've read reviews that the cx5 has loud tyre and road noises, is that true with your cx5? How is the NVH levels compared with HRV?
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It is the stock tire (Goodyear wrangler). Change mine to Michelin Tour HP. Tyre/road noise resolved. You should test drive HRV to compare. It's no where near.
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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ May 2 2015, 10:44 AM)
Should I get a proper SUV, or a CUV instead? Boot space wise, horse power wise and fuel efficiency, Mazda leads with only Rm8k extra. I wouldn't mind living without keyless entry and Bi-xenon lamps though. Should I get the 2.0 Mazda CX5 GL (lowest spec) or 1.8 Honda HRV (V Spec)? Rm126k / Rm118k.
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If you have extra budget, go for CX-5, and you might need to consider the maintenance cost too.
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after i checked the hrv, the quality just like local car...it really not worth for rm100k just because H brand...

yes, there is no mini SUV for RM100K but quite many ordered the high spec which cost around rm120k...just add rm10-20k can buy cx-5 or crv normal spec...the quality and space totally worth it...


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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 2 2015, 08:07 PM)
Good to know that CX-5 2.0L got I-Stop now.
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I-Stop got its own problems too.

Read this article
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QUOTE(Complexity @ May 5 2015, 02:39 AM)
I-Stop got its own problems too.

Read this article
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The special battery used is not a problem. It is expensive to replace only. tongue.gif
The Toyota Hybrid cars also use the special battery. I am not referring to the battery in the boot, I am referring to the battery next to the engine.
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QUOTE(Complexity @ May 5 2015, 02:39 AM)
I-Stop got its own problems too.

Read this article
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QUOTE(cucubud @ May 5 2015, 07:49 AM)
The special battery used is not a problem. It is expensive to replace only. tongue.gif
The Toyota Hybrid cars also use the special battery. I am not referring to the battery in the boot, I am referring to the battery next to the engine.
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The i-stop is not a problem as mentioned. The special battery is slightly more expensive to replace only, that's all. The original battery from Japan costs RM1,500 whereas the local equivalent is RM700-800. However, one can still use the normal battery which is significantly cheaper but i-stop will not function with the cheap batteries. The Mazda's i-stop or Skyactive system is proprietary hence the requirement of some custom components to cater for these features.


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QUOTE(xSean @ May 5 2015, 12:23 AM)
after i checked the hrv, the quality just like local car...it really not worth for rm100k just because H brand...

yes, there is no mini SUV for RM100K but quite many ordered the high spec which cost around rm120k...just add rm10-20k can buy cx-5 or crv normal spec...the quality and space totally worth it...
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I haven't seen the HRV but have viewed and test driven its bigger brother, the CRV late last year before we chose the CX-5 2.5 CBU from Japan. Not too sure about the HRV but the interior dashboard and door panel of the CRV looks like a Proton Saga. No offense. Even the Proton Preve's interior and dashboard looks more upmarket than the CRV. That is one of the main reasons we scratched off the CRV an went for the Mazda CX-5 which looks more premium inside out.

From the scale of the interior quality and trimming and dashboard material, based on my observation

Honda CRV = Proton Saga < Proton Preve Turbo < Mazda 2/3/6/CX-5 < Ford Focus
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also having the same dilemma ....
really hard to justify HRV at the price of 118k which is only 8k lesser than GL spec cx5.
i just worry that when cx3 launch, they will hack the GL version of cx5. cause the price will be the same. and cx3 is a comparably smaller sized suv.
but the facelift of cx5 looks so damn nice, too bad only for 2.5L version. make me so hard to decide!!!!
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QUOTE(gepochai @ Jul 31 2015, 04:49 PM)
also having the same dilemma ....
really hard to justify HRV at the price of 118k which is only 8k lesser than GL spec cx5.
i just worry that when cx3 launch, they will hack the GL version of cx5. cause the price will be the same. and cx3 is a comparably smaller sized suv.
but the facelift of cx5 looks so damn nice, too bad only for 2.5L version. make me so hard to decide!!!!
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Personally I have to agree with you. I think Mazda will drop out the CX-5 GL spec once CX3 is launched since CX3 indicative price is around 120k only which is not far from 126k CX5 GL spec
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QUOTE(Jackofree @ Jul 31 2015, 04:53 PM)
Personally I have to agree with you. I think Mazda will drop out the CX-5 GL spec once CX3 is launched since CX3 indicative price is around 120k only which is not far from 126k CX5 GL spec
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i just went to the dealer yesterday to confirm that ... but the SA told me that they wont be dropping the GL version. thats good news for me. but sadly they are unable to confirm when the facelift will trickle down to the 2.0 cx5s. apaprently after the CBU 2.5 facelift are solded out, even the 2.5 model will fall back to pre-facelift version.
and the plan (according to the SA) is to update cx5 to facelift officially AFTER cx3 is launched and that could be early next year.
i was like : "WHAT!!?!?!??!!??!??"
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QUOTE(Jackofree @ Jul 31 2015, 04:53 PM)
Personally I have to agree with you. I think Mazda will drop out the CX-5 GL spec once CX3 is launched since CX3 indicative price is around 120k only which is not far from 126k CX5 GL spec
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Btw, now got merdeka promo. discount 4k for GL spec.
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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ May 2 2015, 09:05 PM)
I've read reviews that the cx5 has loud tyre and road noises, is that true with your cx5? How is the NVH levels compared with HRV?
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yup agree on the review.. even change to silent tyre still cannot solve as it NVH not that good.. only slightly reduce, i've change to Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season at rm650/pc.. same size as original tyre..
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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ May 2 2015, 10:44 AM)
Should I get a proper SUV, or a CUV instead? Boot space wise, horse power wise and fuel efficiency, Mazda leads with only Rm8k extra. I wouldn't mind living without keyless entry and Bi-xenon lamps though. Should I get the 2.0 Mazda CX5 GL (lowest spec) or 1.8 Honda HRV (V Spec)? Rm126k / Rm118k.
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If you have the budget go for CX5. It's a much better car overall than HRV. I've test driven both and totally not impressed with HRV.

QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ May 2 2015, 09:05 PM)
I've read reviews that the cx5 has loud tyre and road noises, is that true with your cx5? How is the NVH levels compared with HRV?
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You should test drive it yourself as different people have different sensitivity/expectation for NVH. I was told that the Mazda 3 has loud road noise and poor NVH. Now I'm driving a Mazda 3 and quite impressed with its quiet cabin. I'm not saying others are wrong but NVH is a very subjective issue.


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QUOTE(amad108 @ Aug 5 2015, 06:26 AM)
yup agree on the review.. even change to silent tyre still cannot solve as it NVH not that good.. only slightly reduce, i've change to Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season at rm650/pc.. same size as original tyre..
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17"?

I heard michelin latitude tour is about rm500plus?

So its not advisable using the goodyear wrangler tyres even for some time? Better trade in straight away after collecting car?


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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Aug 5 2015, 08:35 AM)
17"?

I heard michelin latitude tour is about rm500plus?

So its not advisable using the goodyear wrangler tyres even for some time? Better trade in straight away after collecting car?
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yup, 17'
here's the review..
pirelli scorpion verde all-season
michelin latitude tour hp

just for reference..
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Subaru XV?

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QUOTE(Complexity @ May 5 2015, 02:39 AM)
I-Stop got its own problems too.

Read this article
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finally decided to buy cx5 GL spec instead, got a pretty good discount. hope that it really is better than HR-V. should be picking up the car next week or so.
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QUOTE(gepochai @ Aug 20 2015, 10:03 AM)
finally decided to buy cx5 GL spec instead, got a pretty good discount. hope that it really is better than HR-V. should be picking up the car next week or so.
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Glad that you found a good deal.
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QUOTE(gepochai @ Aug 20 2015, 10:03 AM)
finally decided to buy cx5 GL spec instead, got a pretty good discount. hope that it really is better than HR-V. should be picking up the car next week or so.
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How much they offer you?can you introduce your salesman to me ?
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Hi, I am interested to buy cx5 GL. Anyone can I deal with? What his the best offer for me? I am in KL.

Thanks a lot.
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Hi, I am interested to buy cx5 GL. Anyone can I deal with? What his the best offer for me? I am in KL.

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Hi, just PM you the best offer. Thanks.
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Hi,
I read that the CX-5 doesn't have rear air conditioning vents. Is that a major disadvantage relative to CRV. Would appreciate comments from buyers. Thank you.
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QUOTE(gepochai @ Aug 20 2015, 10:03 AM)
finally decided to buy cx5 GL spec instead, got a pretty good discount. hope that it really is better than HR-V. should be picking up the car next week or so.
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of coz better.

really happy with this car. feels heavier n more solid.
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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Sep 1 2015, 11:15 AM)
of coz better.

really happy with this car. feels heavier n more solid.
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yeah, really heavier and more solid. and the steering is just so nice!
but i just regret getting GL cause after i use the car i realised the electronic seats and the keyless entry is really useful. anyway whats done is done. LOL.

Btw, my first tank of petrol was ron97 and the gear shift was quick and pickup is good. but my 2nd tank is ron95 and i noticed there is a delay in gear shift. i'm not sure why but it feels a bit sluggish compared to the first tank.
i hope it is just me being overly sensitive, and i haven't done my first service yet so can't really come up with any definite conclusions.
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Honda quality (now) vs Mazda quality no fight at all. due to cost cutting, honda quality really down the drain. Many ppl i know who have bought honda recently will not buy honda again including me.
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QUOTE(swiss228 @ Aug 31 2015, 08:49 PM)
Hi,
I read that the CX-5 doesn't have rear air conditioning vents. Is that a major disadvantage relative to CRV. Would appreciate comments from buyers. Thank you.
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to be honest, not only it doesn't have rear air conditioning i feel that even the front air cond vents are not positioned well to direct the air flow to the rear. the center vents are below the headunit so the position is lower.

but strangely so far my mother in law who sits at the back haven't been complaning. She is always complaining about my previous car aircond but this car dunno why she nvr complain.

btw i haven't tint my car yet. just some additonal info, the windows seems to have a light tinted color on it and it looks like it already have been tinted.
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QUOTE(amad108 @ Aug 5 2015, 10:20 AM)
yup, 17'
here's the review..
pirelli scorpion verde all-season
michelin latitude tour hp

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Honda quality (now) vs Mazda quality no fight at all. due to cost cutting, honda quality really down the drain. Many ppl i know who have bought honda recently will not buy honda again including me.
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Taking delivery of CX5 AWD CBU today.

Here's how I felt after after trying out the following cars.

HR-V - no powah and feels a spec lower - not a fair comparison against CX-5
CR-V - good car dated looks, older transmission.
Ford Ecosport - love the looks, smallish interior and hated the dashboard.
Subaru XV - beautiful engine and love the way it drives. Equipment and trim is sorely lacking.
Subaru Forrester - damn it's huge and expensive.

CX-5 wins in terms of overall technology, safety and fuel economy, love the modern and nicer looking interior.

Some of the other cars tested may be ahead in certain areas, overall the Mazda is a better package.

Didn't manage to test the new Nissan X-Trail tongue.gif

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Honda quality (now) vs Mazda quality no fight at all. due to cost cutting, honda quality really down the drain. Many ppl i know who have bought honda recently will not buy honda again including me.
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http://www.bmw.com.my/com/en/owners/parts/...tery_AGM_EN.pdf

I've used AGM batteries in solar installations and AGM batteries have a very long service life.
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QUOTE(chinteck79 @ Sep 2 2015, 09:44 AM)
Honda quality (now) vs Mazda quality no fight at all. due to cost cutting, honda quality really down the drain. Many ppl i know who have bought honda recently will not buy honda again including me.
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Agreed. People still buy Honda due to Japanese reliability, other than the cars which look rather nice and sporty on the outside, in this case the HRV. It sure looks quite nice and classy on the exterior, but when you step into the car, the interior of the car is poor, looks like a Proton Saga. No offense. The interior dashboard layout and quality of materials on the dashboard and door panels etc. look cheap. On the other hand, with the Mazda(CX5 or any other model), exterior looks good and interior quality looks much nicer and higher quality than the Honda. It's not only the HRV but the City and CRV as well - the interior dashboard and door panel looked cheap in the layout and quality.

Only the Honda Accord's interior looked acceptable. All other lower-range Honda cars, the exterior of the car may look nice but the interior of the car is of sub-par quality at Proton's level (though reliability-wise the Honda should do a lot better than the Proton).

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Sep 2 2015, 10:07 AM)
Taking delivery of CX5 AWD CBU today.

Here's how I felt after after trying out the following cars.

HR-V - no powah and feels a spec lower - not a fair comparison against CX-5
CR-V - good car dated looks, older transmission.
Ford Ecosport - love the looks, smallish interior and hated the dashboard.
Subaru XV - beautiful engine and love the way it drives. Equipment and trim is sorely lacking.
Subaru Forrester - damn it's huge and expensive.

CX-5 wins in terms of overall technology, safety and fuel economy, love the modern and nicer looking interior.

Some of the other cars tested may be ahead in certain areas, overall the Mazda is a better package.

Didn't manage to test the new Nissan X-Trail  tongue.gif
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One of my colleagues took delivery of the Ford Ecosport in white colour. It looks nice on the outside. Dashboard is a bit funky though. One thing I noticed is the sound of the Ecosport's engine is rather loud even if standing outside next to the car. Maybe the car wasn't run-in yet.

Subaru XV is also a nice car on the exterior.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 2 2015, 10:51 AM)
Agreed. People still buy Honda due to Japanese reliability, other than the cars which look rather nice and sporty on the outside, in this case the HRV. It sure looks quite nice and classy on the exterior, but when you step into the car, the interior of the car is poor, looks like a Proton Saga. No offense. The interior dashboard layout and quality of materials on the dashboard and door panels etc. look cheap. On the other hand, with the Mazda(CX5 or any other model), exterior looks good and interior quality looks much nicer and higher quality than the Honda. It's not only the HRV but the City and CRV as well - the interior dashboard and door panel looked cheap in the layout and quality.

Only the Honda Accord's interior looked acceptable. All other lower-range Honda cars, the exterior of the car may look nice but the interior of the car is of sub-par quality at Proton's level (though reliability-wise the Honda should do a lot better than the Proton).
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Sep 2 2015, 10:07 AM)
Taking delivery of CX5 AWD CBU today.

Here's how I felt after after trying out the following cars.

HR-V - no powah and feels a spec lower - not a fair comparison against CX-5
CR-V - good car dated looks, older transmission.
Ford Ecosport - love the looks, smallish interior and hated the dashboard.
Subaru XV - beautiful engine and love the way it drives. Equipment and trim is sorely lacking.
Subaru Forrester - damn it's huge and expensive.

CX-5 wins in terms of overall technology, safety and fuel economy, love the modern and nicer looking interior.

Some of the other cars tested may be ahead in certain areas, overall the Mazda is a better package.

Didn't manage to test the new Nissan X-Trail  tongue.gif
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this is the new facelift?
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CX-5 facelifted model with 19" rims would be looking very nice.
And reclineable rear seats please.

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CX-5 facelifted model with 19" rims would be looking very nice.
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Yup facelift with the new grill and lights etc...

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Go compare the interior... CX5 wins all. Rubberish dashboard eliminiates most squeaking noises found in most car. Even CBU car too
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 2 2015, 10:51 AM)
Agreed. People still buy Honda due to Japanese reliability, other than the cars which look rather nice and sporty on the outside, in this case the HRV. It sure looks quite nice and classy on the exterior, but when you step into the car, the interior of the car is poor, looks like a Proton Saga. No offense. The interior dashboard layout and quality of materials on the dashboard and door panels etc. look cheap. On the other hand, with the Mazda(CX5 or any other model), exterior looks good and interior quality looks much nicer and higher quality than the Honda. It's not only the HRV but the City and CRV as well - the interior dashboard and door panel looked cheap in the layout and quality.


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True. The first time I sat in a CRV I was shocked at so much plastic. This isn't a cheap car but everything from the dashboard to central console to door panels are made of hard plastic.
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whats your say on the x-trail's cvt transmission?
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Sep 3 2015, 08:23 AM)
True. The first time I sat in a CRV I was shocked at so much plastic. This isn't a cheap car but everything from the dashboard to central console to door panels are made of hard plastic.
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To me it is grossly overpriced. For the price you are paying, and you get this sort of quality it's not worth it, the CRV. The low-spec CRV is almost RM150k and the high spec model is even costlier.

I can understand people will still choose the HRV (despite its cheap interior) not only for its beautiful looks on the exterior but also the rather affordable price, closer to RM100k. But the hard-plasticky CRV for RM150k+ is just too much. Even the high-spec Perodua Alza at less than RM70k looks better (in the interior) than the CRV. As usual horses for courses.
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The FL CR-V has soft touch door panels on both front doors and hard plastic on both rear doors. I find this ridiculous and why on earth did HM plan as such ?

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Hi all,
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Should i get the cx5 gl now oct nov time
Or wait their year end promo
Or wait new year car?

I choose cx5 bcause of their good rv
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With the discount offered now for the cx5 gl spec the price is quite similar to the hrv v spec

For those who ordered the v spec just wondering did you consider the cx5 as it is somehow a c-segment suv

Was it due to the rv, skeptical on the mazda maintenance cost or other issues?

Thanks guys
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Until today still many ppl talk about RV... this RV thingy is a past and If scared about RV, better invest in property or others... If want good RV better get new Toyota Altis & not this Honda or Mazda in this price range... Since those oldies rich ah pek still like this brand so much.. Haiz..

1st you must buy a car which suit your purpose/budget and not RV, 2nd think about safety, maintenance, practically & fuel consumption.. Last only talk about RV.. If you can afford this price range of cars at first, RV is nothing.. Unless you are paying an arm and a leg just to settle the car loan to show off, you are not worth of owning it..

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Hi, please PM the best offer for CX5 GL spec. Thanks.
I am going to grab it next week. Thanks in advance .
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I went to Honda test drive CRV. I asked the Honda SA to point out what is the advantages for CRV which CX-5 lack of. He told me the CX-5 does not have second value compare to CRV, and the maintenance fee is higher. Besides, the CX-5 repair Parts (if car broke down) are difficult to find in Malaysia. He also mentioned there are less mechanic know how to fix a CX-5.

what you guys think about for this statement ?

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QUOTE(FrancisChong84 @ Oct 29 2015, 10:40 AM)
I went to Honda test drive CRV. I asked the Honda SA to point out what is the advantages for CRV which CX-5 lack of. He told me the CX-5 does not have second value compare to CRV, and the maintenance fee is higher. Besides, the CX-5 repair Parts (if car broke down) are difficult to find in Malaysia. He also mentioned there are less mechanic know how to fix a CX-5.

what you guys think about for this statement ?
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Cx5

Why? Hrv smaller and tarak twin exhaust
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QUOTE(FrancisChong84 @ Oct 29 2015, 10:40 AM)
I went to Honda test drive CRV. I asked the Honda SA to point out what is the advantages for CRV which CX-5 lack of. He told me the CX-5 does not have second value compare to CRV, and the maintenance fee is higher. Besides, the CX-5 repair Parts (if car broke down) are difficult to find in Malaysia. He also mentioned there are less mechanic know how to fix a CX-5.

what you guys think about for this statement ?
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Biggest downside to the HRV besides the long wait time is the torsion beam rear suspension. It makes rear passengers feel quite uncomfortable. If backseat comfort is more important than backseat space, get the CX5.
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QUOTE(FrancisChong84 @ Oct 29 2015, 10:40 AM)
I went to Honda test drive CRV. I asked the Honda SA to point out what is the advantages for CRV which CX-5 lack of. He told me the CX-5 does not have second value compare to CRV, and the maintenance fee is higher. Besides, the CX-5 repair Parts (if car broke down) are difficult to find in Malaysia. He also mentioned there are less mechanic know how to fix a CX-5.

what you guys think about for this statement ?
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duh...u're asking Honda SA about their rival (Mazda) vehicles RV...wad kinda response do u expect ?
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Only extra accesories hard to find in my hometown....except KL...but anyhow I bought online...mudah malaysia..just received last week.

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If I'm not mistaken. The cx5 is c segment but the hrv is b segment. Quality wise, cx5 has to be better as it is comparable to crv. Correct me if I'm wrong....

When I tested both, I feel cx5 more comfortable driving n backseat more comfy.

Saw in mudah got discount 10k?


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QUOTE(aelan59 @ Nov 1 2015, 03:28 PM)
I just received cx5 2 week ago and I appreciate and loved it.... Biasa lah saleman...
Only extra accesories hard to find in my hometown....except KL...but anyhow I bought online...mudah malaysia..just received last week.
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Can you PM the SA and the discount you get ? Thanks a lot. I'm making decision to buy this week. Thanks for help.
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QUOTE(batman1172 @ Nov 1 2015, 07:15 PM)
If I'm not mistaken. The cx5 is c segment but the hrv is b segment. Quality wise, cx5 has to be better as it is comparable to crv. Correct me if I'm wrong....

When I tested both, I feel cx5 more comfortable driving n backseat more comfy.

Saw in mudah got discount 10k?
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Discount 10k, sure bo ? included insurance ? Can send me the link. Thanks
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I just tested CX-5 yesterday, the handling and speed up is much better than HRV. and slightly better than CRV.
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I expect SA will talk about the CRV advantange (function, handling, performance) that CX-5 lack of, but he just mentioned the second value for the Honda car (Just this one). hmm....This let me wonder the performance of CRV really cannot compete CX-5. hmm.gif
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Discount 10k, sure bo ? included insurance ? Can send me the link. Thanks
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mmm anyone know where can get best offer for CX5 GL spec ? i'm also considering..... year end models means now have discount is it ?

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HRV high spec 118k .. if u wannna add the body kit already 4-5k edi ..tinted also few thousand ..my fren bought at 118 k and after adding the additional protection/acc reach 126k..

in term of looks hrv looks better but that's subjective.

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Cx5 gl vs high, so far i only find high got leather + navi. Can anyone share what else extra for high spec with extra rm10+k?
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Cx5 gl vs high, so far i only find high got leather + navi. Can anyone share what else extra for high spec with extra rm10+k?
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1. Bi-Xenon headlamps with AFS, Auto Leveling, DRL
2. Front Seat w power adjustment for driver
3. Smart Keyless System
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QUOTE(FrancisChong84 @ Oct 29 2015, 10:40 AM)
I went to Honda test drive CRV. I asked the Honda SA to point out what is the advantages for CRV which CX-5 lack of. He told me the CX-5 does not have second value compare to CRV, and the maintenance fee is higher. Besides, the CX-5 repair Parts (if car broke down) are difficult to find in Malaysia. He also mentioned there are less mechanic know how to fix a CX-5.

what you guys think about for this statement ?
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I feel this is marketing tactic, but not all wrong with his statement. There are some car models that really good and high-demand in second-hand market. Not all Toyota models will fetch good RV, it really depend on model. Another thing that determine the RV is the spare-part availability for that model. If you got to face problem with a car, and cannot fix it, you will know how important to choose a car that most mechanic know how to repair. And sometime is the spare-part cost, you can get certain rare replacement part, just you need pay 2x-5x cost for it, compare other similar part.

No offence to any brand of car, everyone got their preference and it is better to aware the it then knew it later. As long as you happy with your car, it is good.

Looking at HR-V, CX5 GL and Subaru XV.. smile.gif
I just need a family car, not really put emphasis on technology and interior car quality, but if with that without added cost, why not. smile.gif
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Professional SA will tell about the strengths of their models, rather than be-little another brand.

All cars are good cars with the exception of some. All brands & models have its strengths and weaknesses.

The most important part is are the strengths of your choice suit your requirements and the weakness of your choice are something you can live without ??

Then, the next thing is the trustworthiness of the SA and also the dealership.
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Sep 2 2015, 11:07 AM)
Taking delivery of CX5 AWD CBU today.

Here's how I felt after after trying out the following cars.

HR-V - no powah and feels a spec lower - not a fair comparison against CX-5
CR-V - good car dated looks, older transmission.
Ford Ecosport - love the looks, smallish interior and hated the dashboard.
Subaru XV - beautiful engine and love the way it drives. Equipment and trim is sorely lacking.
Subaru Forester - damn it's huge and expensive. (Which to update -> Now already got CKD and price is going down to RM13XK-RM14XK for early bird discount)

CX-5 wins in terms of overall technology, safety and fuel economy, love the modern and nicer looking interior.

Forester 2016 -> Standart AWD, better safety (7 air-bags), X-Mode for light off road & lots of gadget to play with the 2.0i-P and price is almost the same as CX-5 after discount. 
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To put salt to 2016 Mazda CX-5, now 2.0L high spec no more AWD only 2WD.  sad.gif 

Some of the other cars tested may be ahead in certain areas, overall the Mazda is a better package.

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Yo guys . Newbie here .
Being curious !

I have booked cx-5 high spec 2w ago and was told the waiting period was a month to month and half . Got a call today and said car should be here on Monday .😮
Is there a way for us to know that it's not a show unit?

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2016 Mazda CX-5 FL(A) SKYACTIV what is the best buy you guys get?
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I was in the same boat...considered the HRV and CX-5 but finally i decided to go for the CX-5 2.0 FL low spec. I love the good looks better than HRV and it being really fun to drive.

Have got it for less than a month but start to regret in not getting the high spec with the led DRL. Only now I notice that mazda's led DRLs are nicer than others as it accentuates the headlight's shape (like BMW's DRLs) and not just a line.

Other than the led DRL, I'm loving my new ride and not regretting it one bit in choosing it over the HRV

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CX-5 2.0 better for long distance use.
HR-V better for town driving and parking.

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post Jun 26 2016, 06:22 PM

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Cx5 still use hand brake
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post Jun 27 2016, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Jun 26 2016, 06:22 PM)
Cx5 still use hand brake
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2016 model has e-brake... no handbrake
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post Jun 27 2016, 09:22 AM

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just test drove the HRV 1.8, the initial pickup is ok. 1 thing I realise is the rear passenger feels "bouncy", it's as though it hops over bumps rather than absorbing it.


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post Jun 27 2016, 09:39 AM

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HRV is alright ~

*Note* in long run, the i-stop will be very annoying for CX5 lol driving a bmw here the start-stop ....ugh u have to turn it off all the time

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 27 2016, 09:22 AM)
just test drove the HRV 1.8, the initial pickup is ok. 1 thing I realise is the rear passenger feels "bouncy", it's as though it hops over bumps rather than absorbing it.
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most of the suv or hybrid suv have the same characteristic... mainly due to their height... and their nature is mostly for passanger fetching....
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any idea if the upcoming toyota c-hr will be comparable to mazda cx-5?
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QUOTE(qhw @ Nov 7 2016, 08:42 PM)
any idea if the upcoming toyota c-hr will be comparable to mazda cx-5?
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Based on some video released, the size is quite similar to A-Class, on the inside. Probably not even as big as HRV.
Not even sure if this car will come to Malaysia market anytime soon.

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post Nov 8 2016, 04:37 PM

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almost same price . sure select bigger segment la bro. unless u really concenrn about RV

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QUOTE(qhw @ Nov 7 2016, 08:42 PM)
any idea if the upcoming toyota c-hr will be comparable to mazda cx-5?
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CX-5 is comparable to CR-V bro
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thanks for the answer bros.....is it true that the new generation of mazda cx-5 will be launched in msia in second half of 2017?
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QUOTE(qhw @ Nov 13 2016, 12:18 AM)
thanks for the answer bros.....is it true that the new generation of mazda cx-5 will be launched in msia in second half of 2017?
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The next gen cx-5 will be revealed next week at the LA Auto Show. Seeing the cx-5 is one of Bermaz best selling models, so I guess 2nd half 2017 launch in Malaysia is likely.
And now that the next gen CR-V has been unveiled, surely mazda will not want to lose ground on their direct competition.
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CX5 bro. It's CKD, but you get a proper SUV, c-segment. IF you sit inside a HRV, you'll know it's practically a city/jazz on stilts.
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