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post Oct 19 2016, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Oct 19 2016, 04:40 PM)
ummm, not exactly.

if there's a will, the will only covers 1/2 of the leftover assets (remember we must pay off the deceased debts if there's any 1st).

so let's assume deceased has 1million.

let's say he has rm200k debt.

so minus that the distributable wealth is rm800k.

so let's say deceased has will.

only 50% (rm400k) will follow will, the rest must be divided by farai'd.

unless every one of the deceased heir's decide that will supersedes fara'id.

so let's assume some heirs don't agree to 100% will.

so rm400k distributed according to will, rm400k distributed according to fara'id.

let's assume will says children get everything.

so rm400k is confirmed the children's.

then the balance rm400k is to be distributed to heirs, which still include children.

so children get 1/2, spouse (if any, but in this case none la becos both died) gets 1/4 while parents and female siblings get 1/6.

and the rest goes to the male siblings of deceased.

so the children gets an additional rm200k on top of the rm400k earlier as stated in the will.

just bcos you got the share from will doesn't mean your share from fara'id is burned...

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more info: http://www2.esyariah.gov.my/esyariah/calcu....nsf/pengenalan
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For Musilims only rite ?

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post Oct 19 2016, 04:58 PM

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post Oct 19 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Oct 19 2016, 08:12 AM)
both daughters can get max. 1/2 of everything.

so each take 1/4 la.

if there are more daughters, then split the 1/2 by how many daughters.

as it is they get zero.

which is even more terrible.

in Islamic wealth distribution to heirs of the deceased (fara'id) there are specific rules.

actually 1st they have to total up the deceased assets etc.

then see whether deceased have any outstanding loans/borrowings, so need to pay off his/her debtors.

then from that balance, divide by 2.

1/2 is to be distributed by will if the deceased did make a will.

the balance 1/2 must be distributed using fara'id.

where daughters/spouse/parent/siblings still get a share (in case these ppl are left out from the will).

what the siblings and heirs did here is obviously wrong.

the children are being denied of their rightful share.

yes siblings get some share, but i can assure you it's not and shouldn't be all.

and as mentioned, stealing from orphans is more sinful than just plain stealing...
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weh, duit sumabangan orang ramai ni orang ramai niat nak bagi kat anak yatim 2 orang ni. apehal pulak tiba tiba nak kena faraid. orang ramai tak suruh pon faraid kan duit ni.

kalau harta mak bapak dia nak faraid aku tak kisah, tapi duit sumbangan orang ramai ni woi.. tak nak aku bagi kat kaki mlm n makcik kaya cincin penuh di jari.. ranting.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 19 2016, 04:56 PM)
For Musilims only rite ?
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yes, for muslims only.
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post Oct 19 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Oct 19 2016, 01:18 PM)
lel..i know that Faizznur guy..
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please expose house address. need to be harassed kaw2.. curi duit orang ramai yang sepatutnya sampai kat anak yatim

beat him up, burn his house! vmad.gif
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post Oct 19 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(mod_pls_ban_srs @ Oct 19 2016, 05:03 PM)
weh, duit sumabangan orang ramai ni orang ramai niat nak bagi kat anak yatim 2 orang ni. apehal pulak tiba tiba nak kena faraid. orang ramai tak suruh pon faraid kan duit ni.

kalau harta mak bapak dia nak faraid aku tak kisah, tapi duit sumbangan orang ramai ni woi.. tak nak aku bagi kat kaki mlm n makcik kaya cincin penuh di jari.. ranting.gif
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ya, donation if the niat is for the children, it's 100% belong to the children.

I already admitted this mistake here:

QUOTE(Faidzal @ Oct 19 2016, 12:13 PM)
yeah, I just realised that.

the harta of deceased will follow fara'id, but donations should go to the 2 children 100%.

if the younger brother did indeed claim that the donation legally belongs to him, then bagusla, makan harta anak yatim.

see how long his fortunes can last...

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but do note that in the same article, the elder sister claimed that the family of the wife claimed the entire insurance benefit of the deceased for themselves, thus denying the 2 children their share...

so in short, both sides of family are technically eating harta anak yatim...

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post Oct 19 2016, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(komag @ Oct 19 2016, 03:55 AM)
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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Oct 19 2016, 06:08 PM)
ya, donation if the niat is for the children, it's 100% belong to the children.

I already admitted this mistake here:
but do note that in the same article, the elder sister claimed that the family of the wife claimed the entire insurance benefit of the deceased for themselves, thus denying the 2 children their share...

so in short, both sides of family are technically eating harta anak yatim...

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2 2 family songlap. topkek.

Allah buka pekung family satu persatu. teladan untuk kita semua ni..

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post Oct 19 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(mod_pls_ban_srs @ Oct 19 2016, 05:11 PM)
2 2 family songlap. topkek.

Allah buka pekung family satu persatu. teladan untuk kita semua ni..

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yeah.

hikmah disebalik tragedy for all of us...
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post Oct 19 2016, 05:25 PM

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Thats why donation is somekind of stupid thing. U wi never really know what happen to your money unless there an issues arise.

Even legal donation to NGO, i still dont trust the way that money will be handle.

But anyway, i still donate.

Lol
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post Oct 19 2016, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(mod_pls_ban_srs @ Oct 19 2016, 05:05 PM)
please expose house address. need to be harassed kaw2.. curi duit orang ramai yang sepatutnya sampai kat anak yatim

beat him up, burn his house!  vmad.gif
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yeah, kasi pukul la this retard.
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post Oct 19 2016, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(Faidzal @ Oct 19 2016, 04:40 PM)
ummm, not exactly.

if there's a will, the will only covers 1/2 of the leftover assets (remember we must pay off the deceased debts if there's any 1st).

so let's assume deceased has 1million.

let's say he has rm200k debt.

so minus that the distributable wealth is rm800k.

so let's say deceased has will.

only 50% (rm400k) will follow will, the rest must be divided by farai'd.

unless every one of the deceased heir's decide that will supersedes fara'id.

so let's assume some heirs don't agree to 100% will.

so rm400k distributed according to will, rm400k distributed according to fara'id.

let's assume will says children get everything.

so rm400k is confirmed the children's.

then the balance rm400k is to be distributed to heirs, which still include children.

so children get 1/2, spouse (if any, but in this case none la becos both died) gets 1/4 while parents and female siblings get 1/6.

and the rest goes to the male siblings of deceased.

so the children gets an additional rm200k on top of the rm400k earlier as stated in the will.

just bcos you got the share from will doesn't mean your share from fara'id is burned...

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more info: http://www2.esyariah.gov.my/esyariah/calcu....nsf/pengenalan
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Ok I get it now. Thanks for explaining everything.
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post Oct 19 2016, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(SweetPuff @ Oct 19 2016, 04:17 PM)
Donation money should be dispensed to the intended recipient, regardless of who was entrusted to manage the money. Else they should be upfront about it.

Remember the old Sharity?
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2005...ty-think-again/
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eh fuark? i got sign up the monthly donation for NKF one.. wtf? mad.gif rclxub.gif
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post Oct 19 2016, 06:25 PM

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cb woi .. i donate
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post Oct 19 2016, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 19 2016, 06:04 AM)
That guy main MLM

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post Oct 19 2016, 06:36 PM

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post Oct 19 2016, 06:42 PM

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fuggg

this is really making me angry
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post Oct 19 2016, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(ate @ Oct 19 2016, 05:10 PM)
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mana kau tau itu duit donasi?
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post Oct 19 2016, 07:01 PM

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such a sleazy guy. even he take the money he also claim because "the KL mufti said so".

KL mufti has since rebut the claim, saying he visited their family and said "they CAN take the orphans money, as long as it's to spend on those orphan's NECESSITIES"

basically guy kuda the agama like a pro jockey. mad.gif

sos: http://www.facebook.com/drzulmuftiwp/photo...e=3&pnref=story
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post Oct 19 2016, 10:07 PM

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Time sekolah dulu ustaz selalu cerita pasal orang yang makan harta anak yatim.

Now I first time see one in real life.

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