you dont spend all cash on depreciating item. as you have figured, FD already give higher interest rate than car loan, there are others you could invest to get more interest rate. car loan would be a btter choice
Buying Car, loan vs cash
Buying Car, loan vs cash
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May 7 2015, 09:42 AM
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you dont spend all cash on depreciating item. as you have figured, FD already give higher interest rate than car loan, there are others you could invest to get more interest rate. car loan would be a btter choice
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May 7 2015, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(cklimm @ May 7 2015, 09:38 AM) Oh yeah, As some other posters have pointed out, if you insist on getting a car loan, then you got to look beyond FD for saving the money you could spare from the loan.after doing some spreadsheet, i found that my FD interest reducing every months as my principle drops after repayments, while the loan interest remains the same until the end of the tenure, although i paid most of the amount owed in the 5th year. it ended up my FD interest over the 5 years are about 3.1k, while the loan interest itself is 4k++! |
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May 7 2015, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 09:42 AM) you dont spend all cash on depreciating item. as you have figured, FD already give higher interest rate than car loan, there are others you could invest to get more interest rate. car loan would be a btter choice FD never gives high interest than car loan. Never. |
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May 7 2015, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(donaldliaw87 @ Apr 27 2015, 10:35 AM) income tax find charge on you or you pay %rates to bank for few months. that's all depend on your choice! This is complete bullshit.If you are an employee with rm60000 of annual income for the past few years. You can buy a rm90k car with cash and IRB won't look for you. |
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May 7 2015, 10:05 AM
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May 7 2015, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 10:05 AM) there could be other investment better. but would like to know how u so sure FD never gives higher interest than car loan? i don't think there's car loan >4% Rather than you are looking for excuse to deny others, why not you show some data to support your bullcrap?I just finished my car loan, and the result tells me that, you know nuts on this |
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May 7 2015, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 10:05 AM) there could be other investment better. but would like to know how u so sure FD never gives higher interest than car loan? i don't think there's car loan >4% You got to re-read some of the posts we all posted here and understand the concept of effective interest rate. |
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May 7 2015, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 7 2015, 10:08 AM) Rather than you are looking for excuse to deny others, why not you show some data to support your bullcrap? wow man, i was just asking nicely and expressing my opinion. i dont know which words of mine offended u or to imply im giving excuse to deny his reply. so for every discussion, u need to show some data (and saying mine is bullcrap, i dont even know what does bullcrap means anymore)? so according to your theory, please support on your reply with full details.I just finished my car loan, and the result tells me that, you know nuts on this yes, i just compare to the difference of interest rate, that simple. but at least im not arrogant and rude like you, and to say you are full of shit, that's too kind word for u. kthxbai |
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May 7 2015, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 10:17 AM) wow man, i was just asking nicely and expressing my opinion. i dont know which words of mine offended u or to imply im giving excuse to deny his reply. so for every discussion, u need to show some data (and saying mine is bullcrap, i dont even know what does bullcrap means anymore)? so according to your theory, please support on your reply with full details. Already have some replies telling you that, car loan even at 1%, it will be higher interest rate than FD's 3%.yes, i just compare to the difference of interest rate, that simple. but at least im not arrogant and rude like you, and to say you are full of shit, that's too kind word for u. kthxbai But you keep on ignore it and die die saying FD's interest are higher than car loan's interest. |
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May 7 2015, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 7 2015, 10:09 AM) You got to re-read some of the posts we all posted here and understand the concept of effective interest rate. ok sure. unlike the supersoundtinkosong reply, yours much better. sorry coz i don't come from econs background, so my theory of interest rate is that simple. will look into it |
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May 7 2015, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 10:17 AM) wow man, i was just asking nicely and expressing my opinion. i dont know which words of mine offended u or to imply im giving excuse to deny his reply. so for every discussion, u need to show some data (and saying mine is bullcrap, i dont even know what does bullcrap means anymore)? so according to your theory, please support on your reply with full details. Just move on. yes, i just compare to the difference of interest rate, that simple. but at least im not arrogant and rude like you, and to say you are full of shit, that's too kind word for u. kthxbai But as I mentioned, there was something missing in the calculation presented by TS in the previous page. The missing part was a car loan requires the person to pay installment every month. If he had not taken any loan, the equivalent amount of payment to the loan could be saved in the bank or other investments and that could generate interest. The interest earn from saving or burnt from car installment must be taken into consideration. |
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May 7 2015, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 7 2015, 10:19 AM) Already have some replies telling you that, car loan even at 1%, it will be higher interest rate than FD's 3%. LOL....please quote my words in which I did say i die die believe FD interest are higher than car loan? I just said i don't think car loan is more than 4%, in which u could reply that's not the case to compare in a more polite way.But you keep on ignore it and die die saying FD's interest are higher than car loan's interest. i did not ignore coz i didn't read them. i was just replying my thoughts to TS and therefore, i didn't read the whole 3 pages just to reply TS and here you are replying in the wrong tone inb4 stupid, didnt read before comment. |
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May 7 2015, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(puchongite @ May 7 2015, 10:25 AM) Just move on. Car loan's interest are calculate annually. Like you take on Jan last year, the principle balance will be charged interest on Jan this year.But as I mentioned, there was something missing in the calculation presented by TS in the previous page. The missing part was a car loan requires the person to pay installment every month. If he had not taken any loan, the equivalent amount of payment to the loan could be saved in the bank or other investments and that could generate interest. The interest earn from saving or burnt from car installment must be taken into consideration. I settled my 5 year loan on 13th month, after back calculating, I've paid 2 years interest. |
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May 7 2015, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 10:28 AM) LOL....please quote my words in which I did say i die die believe FD interest are higher than car loan? I just said i don't think car loan is more than 4%, in which u could reply that's not the case to compare in a more polite way. Only a person that has problem with his eyes won't see something or he is plain ignorant.i did not ignore coz i didn't read them. i was just replying my thoughts to TS and therefore, i didn't read the whole 3 pages just to reply TS and here you are replying in the wrong tone inb4 stupid, didnt read before comment. So, which category you are in? |
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May 7 2015, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 7 2015, 10:31 AM) Only a person that has problem with his eyes won't see something or he is plain ignorant. U better stick to the topic or u rather to have personal attack on me? coz i don't have for all these nonsense. go find someone else. So, which category you are in? to answer your question (final reply if you keep bullshitting), would you read a topic with 100 pages before you reply? this is only 3 pages but does that mean i have to read all of them, understand them and reply to one person which is TS? coz im pretty sure my reply not for you for my first post. like what puchongite said, moving on. |
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May 7 2015, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 10:39 AM) U better stick to the topic or u rather to have personal attack on me? coz i don't have for all these nonsense. go find someone else. Sorry, I will read all even it is 1000 pages.to answer your question (final reply if you keep bullshitting), would you read a topic with 100 pages before you reply? this is only 3 pages but does that mean i have to read all of them, understand them and reply to one person which is TS? coz im pretty sure my reply not for you for my first post. like what puchongite said, moving on. Like in Malay : baca dan fahamkan. |
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May 7 2015, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(3rdEdition @ May 7 2015, 10:39 AM) U better stick to the topic or u rather to have personal attack on me? coz i don't have for all these nonsense. go find someone else. to answer your question (final reply if you keep bullshitting), would you read a topic with 100 pages before you reply? this is only 3 pages but does that mean i have to read all of them, understand them and reply to one person which is TS? coz im pretty sure my reply not for you for my first post. like what puchongite said, moving on. QUOTE(supersound @ May 7 2015, 10:42 AM) This is not /k. Take your petty squabbles and move along. Either you contribute to the tread or take a free trip to Bora-Bora courtesy of the mods. |
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May 7 2015, 10:55 AM
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Just tell you that the banks are so successful in presenting the numbers and why so many are committing to 9 years loan.
If you want to know that is the difference, house loan is based on outstanding amount while car loan is fixed based on your loan amount. Basically bank offer your FD or whatever as a form of loan from individual and these money is then loan to others in form of hire purchase / house loan / personal loan at higher rate. They make profit in the difference. So your loan interest will never be lower than what the banks pay you for whatever deposit product you have. |
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May 7 2015, 12:02 PM
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A 2.9% hire purchase loan will for 9 year period work out to be around 5.45% p.a. (when converted to housing loan type calculation). Housing loan calculation aka amortised loan is a better representation for calculation and comparison purpose.
There is no FD in the market that gives 5.45%. The best bet is to put into some AS? i.e., fixed unit price collective investment scheme to earn some 7% dividend and profit the arbitrage. Xuzen |
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May 7 2015, 12:06 PM
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After doing some research, i still get some profit from FD over car loan but not too sure whether is worth it. Hope all sifus can enlighten me if thinks otherwise and not bashing me unlike someone #supersound.
http://loanstreet.com.my/calculator/flat-t...rest-calculator from here (according to TS situation), i enter total loan of 35000, tenure of 5 years with 3% flat rate. Total payment is 40250 at EIR of 5.64% (i duno how they get this and how does it apply to get 40250) so now, i used FD calculation site, 1. https://ringgitplus.com/en/fixed-deposit/ 2. http://www.miniwebtool.com/fixed-deposit-c...est_frequency=0 On the 2nd site, again i enter 35000 with time period of 5 years at annual interest rate of 3.75% (simple interest - no compounding) and i get 41562.50 (same amount with ringgitplus site) So FD maturity amount - total payment of car loan = 41562.50 - 40250.00 = 1312.5. So from what I get, by taking car loan and invest the rest rm35k to FD, i earn rm1312.5 though not much but my point here is FD vs Car Loan interest. And I would like to know how to get EIR p.a @ 5.64% and how does it apply because FD @ 3.75% beats the EIR @ 5.64%. Again, I want to emphasize, this is what i get from my research, not to deny any opinions, purely for discussion and understanding. |
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