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Buying Car, loan vs cash
 
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post May 6 2015, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ May 6 2015, 08:02 PM)
Ok, i made my way to 2 banks for loan enquiries,

1 )CIMB hire purchase, 3%p.a,
for 30k principal, there will be RM4500 loan interest for 5 years,
and i will earn RM6000 in FD for 5 years @ 4%p/a.

Contra gain: 6000-4500=RM1500

2)Mach by HLB cruise control
I was told that i can deposit cash into the account to reduce the interest, up to 30%,
by putting the RM9000 into the account, i am only charged RM 2227 interest for 5 years,
which translated to 2.12%pa! brows.gif

Meanwhile, the remaining RM21k in FD for 5 years @ 4%p/a. will make me RM4200.

Contra gain: 4200-2227=RM1973
any better choices, folks?
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you still dont get the idea of car loan.

ok let me make it simple for you. You are paying repayment every month, why is it that bank still charge you interest based on your initial loan amount and not the reduced balance? Car loan is one of the worst loan (i.e. profit for bank)

If you can live without these 35k, pay cash. If this is all the saving you have, have a loan at shorter tenure (3-5 years)
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post May 7 2015, 10:55 AM

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Just tell you that the banks are so successful in presenting the numbers and why so many are committing to 9 years loan.

If you want to know that is the difference, house loan is based on outstanding amount while car loan is fixed based on your loan amount.

Basically bank offer your FD or whatever as a form of loan from individual and these money is then loan to others in form of hire purchase / house loan / personal loan at higher rate. They make profit in the difference. So your loan interest will never be lower than what the banks pay you for whatever deposit product you have.


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post May 7 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(JamesCloud @ May 7 2015, 03:12 PM)
Please check with the Bank if you have loan a car before.

2.9% is flat rate per year. just make it simple. dont use EIR.

FD also by 4% per year. so.. is just as simple as 4% vs 2.9%. just that u cannot take out FD anytime to pay car loan.

that's why. best way to do is. using ur flexi house loan. you can take out your money any time. and the rate you can save in housing is at least 4.2%
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doh.gif doh.gif

so after you pay for one year, following year 2.9% is based on outstanding or total loan amount?

nvm i tell you, it is based on total loan amount. Meaning it is not 2.9%.

Read more below to understand why it is not 2.9%

QUOTE(cherroy @ May 7 2015, 03:07 PM)
Yup, the right way to count the FD interest earned is the FD amount keep on shrinking each month.

But I preferred to "scare off" people by showing the the last year real interest rate on HP.

100K 3% 5 years.

Each year interest is 3K

1st year 3K/100K = 3%
2nd year 3K /80k = 3.75% (already pay off 20K through monthly repayment)
3rd year 3K/60K = 5%
4th year 3k/40k = 7.5%
5th year 3K/20K = 15%.

See where bank earns the most profit?  icon_idea.gif

That's why they can give lower rate if the tenure is longer.
Bank actually like borrower to drag even longer, they can earn even more.
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Now i have no more doubt why banks are making so much money thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by bearbear: May 7 2015, 03:27 PM
bearbear
post May 7 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(JamesCloud @ May 7 2015, 03:28 PM)
That's why, as i said. bank use EIR for back end. coz your contract with them is 5yrs example. your interest for 5years will be 5 x 2.9%. if second year you want to void contract and expect bank only earn you 2.9% for the first year. then that's not the way.

2.9% per year is as what bank already told you. and you need to fulfill the contract maturity.

try to check your own car loan.

if you said u want 5years. so 5x2.9%. is that the total amount you pay??
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it is not effective, read the example given by cherroy.

They charge you 2.9% on 100k for 5 years. first year already paid 20k yet they want to charge 2.9% on 100k.

Of course i know it is agreed, the arguement is you gain less on FD. Not more as you stated earlier.

I am not arguing that the bank is wrong.
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QUOTE(vincentwmh @ May 7 2015, 03:45 PM)
bone,

In the end, calculate Period that can withdraw until Future Value = 0 (Means complete withdraw)
Period = 79.31, or 79 months

i am lost count here!! how to get 79.31mth ar?? can help me understand!!
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I didnt calculate but should be inclusive of 4% interest gain yearly from your FD principal.
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post May 7 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(vincentwmh @ May 7 2015, 03:54 PM)
with that 4%pa compounded for 7yrs/$716.07, also cannot get 79.31mth leh!! doh.gif
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suggest you rework your formula, i do get 79 months also wink.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 7 2015, 04:28 PM)
Because that is what I am planning to do in the future When I am working. If can save even a bit money, why not.

Take loan, and pay back the loan slowly and earn interest.

Isn't this like gen x's way of thinking with credit card. Put money into 1 month fd, use a credit card and at the end of 1 month, take out the fd and pay your credit card
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The difference is that CC provide you x days of interest free loan thus you will sure gain even with 1% interest.

Loan on the other hand, cost you money every day.

 

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