God still live on while this guy who said above is dead.

What is not noob then, share some idea. How do sperm know which direction to swim?

And thus that makes Atheism owned?

Actually can.

If God can be created, it's no longer God by definition.

how come atheist find this so hard to understand? Something so simple.

Is there another definition?

The person of Christ as eye witnessed by the apostles as recorded in the Bible.

For us Christian, He is the tangible and physical proof.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Apr 27 2015, 12:34 PM

From the Church POV, does not mean evolution discredit creation. It starts from there, then evolution. It's not just Catholics.

Actually no, you haven't.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/iyf/faith...-christian.html

Well he will be changed eternally as well. So it is an awesome concept.

1. There is a reason for all these that has happened, I did explained this in our Christian Fellowship thread.

2. If He were to do that, you would have not existed. Neither would your parents, siblings, family. But I need to give a correct perspective about God, He did do SOMETHING and that is the Gospel of the Grace of Christ.

You're not the only one, everyone is together in this, even I'm on the way to hell if I did not accept Christ as my savior.
It's bit long winded to explain but here's the short summary of it, my take of it.

I believe there are 2 reasons why God allowed things to move on and not snap his finger as you said;

1. We are given his breath of life which is eternal. What is eternal cannot be destroyed, The essence of our spirit. Even though the body may rot and all that but the spirit lives on. Did God made a mistake? Definitely not. I'm glad to have existed and so many others. Glad to have experience love, pain and all that. Is it worth it? Yes IMO. And there are some so pained in life, they wished they've never existed. My point being, we are responsible for our own actions, not God. God did not create the problem, we did. To pin and blame it on God is just irresponsible and lazy way of excuse, IMO.


2. So that we understand what would happen if anyone is tempted to repeat the same mistake that Adam and Eve did in New Heaven and Earth, is it worth to go through all these crazy cycle again?
Definitely not, IMO. Point is, this world will be destroyed and a New one will emerge from God.


1. No it's not based on that. We all have to learn humility and be submissive one way or another. Just like how we need to learn to submit to authority in hierarchy in corporate organization, same principal in this.

2. No, again, The Greek word, guné 1 Corinthians 14:34 is referring to wife. What is my basis? It's in the following verse.

35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.g

Do you see the word "OWN husband". The word own emphasize, so it's not referring to woman in general.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: May 7 2015, 02:24 PM

That is not true. Actually you got it wrong, it's not this popular Atheist saying, God created Heaven and Hell and either you (force) believe in me or you go to hell. You have to erase that misconception out of your mind.

All of us have been separated from God by the corruption of sin, pass on from Adam. Satan deceived Eve. God held Eve, Adam and Satan accountable.
but more importantly God held Satan responsible and condemn primarily him to eternal hell, whereas God killed an animal in sin atonement for Adam and Eve and also immediately executed a saving plan for all human kind.
Does that make God seem like He wants people to go to Hell? Definately not and I have tons of other scripture verse to prove that as well. But why is it that, that there are people who go to hell?
The answer is simple, it's because they rejected God and his saving plan, God is a gentleman, He will not force, When anyone rejects Him, Satan will come in and lay claim to that person's spirit and soul. Satan is just innately destructive and evil. And again before you say this, No God did not create Satan. I think I've explained this tons of times, lazy to repeat it.

Another thing is that, Many People have complained this world is messed up. I've seen the comment that the world is so crazy at time, this earth need a reset button. That is evidence the corruption of sin in this world. Well God is going to give us a new heaven and earth. To go there, the corruption of sin have to be removed from us and this is possible only through the blood of Christ, by acknowledging Him as your Saviour and let God change you in his power.

You don't really need rocket scientist mentality to understand this.

God does not hold people like Children and those mentally challenge/Childlike accountable and condemn them to eternal hell.

James 4:13-15 is pertaining to future events. The fact that, we don't know what will happen in the future, so God is asking us as Christians, to not boast about the future, saying we will do this or that. This verse is for Christians really. Nothing to do with freewill.

John 15:16 is pertaining to God choosing us to bear fruit. Meaning to exhibit growth spiritually that will manifest his blessing in our lives.

It's controversial when people (sometime Christians even) don't understand the Bible well enough, that is why God appoints teachers to teach, so don't believe blindly what you see on the internet, especially from Anti God sites.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: May 7 2015, 08:22 PM

Yes it's part of our very being because it started from the corruption of sin, passed on from Adam.
We are responsible for our own actions.

Why Satan choose to do harm? Because of pride.
Why a person choose to reject God? Because of the nature of Sin, Bible term call it the works of the flesh, it is hostile and anti-God.

What I meant was God held Satan accountable and condemn Him to eternal punishment but for Adam and Eve and all man kind, God prepared a Salvation Plan.