but let say a 1200W 2ch cap ayam amp (we asume the real RMS is around 200W)
and a branded 200W RMS 2ch amp..
use it to power a same woofer..will it really sound diffrently?
cheap amp vs expensive amp, wat is the diffrent beside price?
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Oct 18 2006, 11:54 PM, updated 20y ago
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i know the rated wattage for cheap amp mostly is bull sh1t..(cheap amp i mean below RM300 one)
but let say a 1200W 2ch cap ayam amp (we asume the real RMS is around 200W) and a branded 200W RMS 2ch amp.. use it to power a same woofer..will it really sound diffrently? |
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Oct 18 2006, 11:58 PM
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u're really asking something stupid
if they sound the same... why would enthusiasts pay few grands for a real good amp? for fun? |
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Oct 19 2006, 12:02 AM
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What's the difference? The obvious would be the quality and also the grade of parts used inside the amplifier. And most cheaper amps are prone to break down after a year or two of usage. But as for expensive amps(which are of international credit, not as in "expensive cap ayam"), the parts used usually comes with certain grades and would last years. I've got amps that are more than 10 years old and they are STILL working flawlessly, i doubt you can say the same for cheapo amps.
As to whether does it sound different or not, this is VERY much debatable, |
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Oct 19 2006, 12:05 AM
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quality and price of course i know la..
but the sound quality? |
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Oct 19 2006, 12:12 AM
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Sound Quality ...Cheaper amp can't beat expensive amp..
If not everyone buy cheaper one la... Expensive amp company should bankrup liao |
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Oct 19 2006, 12:22 AM
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But everybody cannnot buy expensive amp.
This post has been edited by kayray: Oct 19 2006, 12:23 AM |
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Oct 19 2006, 08:52 AM
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lol
everybody cannot buy expensive amp? u are a real joker |
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Oct 19 2006, 08:57 AM
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but not everybody couldn't afford expensive amp? <=== sound better..
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Oct 19 2006, 09:09 AM
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there is few classes of amps.. Class A amps and Class D amps circuit design are more popular.
basically those cheap amps are not actually classified in these catagories. they are using amplifier chips only... i've dismantled a so called 400W PMPO chicken brand amp that costs RM100. the chipset they use cannot even pump more than 5W RMS my friend got a so called made in USA amp that he uses to blast 2x10" also made in usa sub woofer. the rated power was about 1200W PMPO... it work flawlessly. but once i put an 8" sumo polaris dual coil woofer replacing the 2x10" woofer, the amp cut off in less than 1 hour play. FYI the sumo polaris is only 60W RMS per coil. so dual coil is only 120W RMS with 700WPMPO. got him a second hand audiostream amp for about RM600 and it played flawlessly. expensive amps have proper circuit design and better quality components. Class A amps is normally used for woofers, while class D amps which are much more expensive and harder to produce is for the sound quality. |
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Oct 19 2006, 10:16 AM
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expansive amp = real power
cheap amp = fake power |
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Oct 19 2006, 10:19 AM
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class A for woofers?
r u joking or wat class a is so well known of power loss... and their low power rating how on earth they can power up a normal sub? class D on the other hand is normally for woofers... bcos of its power efficiency they're not expensive to produce nor cheap... lmao |
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Oct 19 2006, 10:22 AM
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class D chip are more ex than class A transistor..but class A transistor need many to work but class D only need a few.....
if compare the chip, class D ex, class A cheap... if compare overall, class A ex, class D cheap |
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Oct 19 2006, 10:24 AM
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transistor is still cheap...only the quality of the product make sense........
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Oct 19 2006, 10:46 AM
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rated 100w while u r actaully getting 50w mayb.....juz mayb if u r lucky
at same rated watt, ull notice the cheaper amp less component ocphangaz basically says it all other then the mess up class D n A |
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Oct 19 2006, 03:02 PM
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so answer is real power and fake power.
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Oct 19 2006, 05:07 PM
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not only power
also the sound characteristic, control etc |
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Oct 19 2006, 05:55 PM
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expensive amp provide natural vocal + music.
Cheap amp provide abnormal sound |
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Oct 19 2006, 09:07 PM
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chap ayam amp provide noise and muddy sound...
while good amps... they gives out real power, and clean sound... and more controls too... but if you cannot hear the differences of cuz you sould say they are the same... cheers.... |
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Oct 19 2006, 10:17 PM
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caliber = cap ayam?
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