I have few thousand sleeping in FD, should I use that for this fund or just get a bond instead??
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund
Investment Sifus, I'm very new in such stuff. Need your guidance.
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund, is this good fund to invest?
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The banker introduce to me this fund saying and showing me the performance of the fund which is 8% per years average for some time now. She mentioned that this fund has risk but very good fund to invest. What do you think?
I have few thousand sleeping in FD, should I use that for this fund or just get a bond instead?? CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund Investment Sifus, I'm very new in such stuff. Need your guidance. |
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We at FSM thread call this fund...Ponzi 2.0
And 8% p.a. is its TARGET Recent performance has been well in excess of 10% p.a. See here: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...umber=MYCIMB007 and here: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...etMYCIMB007.pdf This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Apr 15 2015, 11:32 AM |
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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 15 2015, 12:26 PM) The banker introduce to me this fund saying and showing me the performance of the fund which is 8% per years average for some time now. She mentioned that this fund has risk but very good fund to invest. What do you think? I am invested in it!I have few thousand sleeping in FD, should I use that for this fund or just get a bond instead?? CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund Investment Sifus, I'm very new in such stuff. Need your guidance. |
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 15 2015, 11:29 AM) We at FSM thread call this fund...Ponzi 2.0 So 8% is target only? But she show me the performance really got 8% like that for 3 years. And why Ponzi yah? and also 2.0??? Like second fraud scheme??? huh??And 8% p.a. is its TARGET Recent performance has been well in excess of 10% p.a. See here: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...umber=MYCIMB007 and here: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...etMYCIMB007.pdf |
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 15 2015, 11:56 AM) haha... FSM Cheaper but open account abit fussy right? I saw my friend buy PRS like so many document need to send to FSM. FSM cheaper ma. Also got good customer service. Also can do online. And most important I follow you ma! But bank will tell u before the market turn sour and u can sell before it drops right? That's what I know. |
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Investment involves risk.
The price of securities may go down as well as up, and under certain circumstances an investor may sustain a total or substantial loss of investment. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of the future or likely performance of the fund. Investors should read the relevant fund's prospectus for details before making any investment decision. An Investor should make an appraisal of the risks involved in investing in these products and should consult their own independent and professional advisors, to ensure that any decision made is suitable with regards to their circumstances and financial position. |
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Management Fee Up to 1.80% p.a. of the NAV
Trustee Fee 0.08% p.a. of the NAV Looks like I have to see this 1 also. Coz every year will lost this amount too. Just realize 8% is bench mark and the performance is like 20% like that? Not bad. Should I buy? |
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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 15 2015, 12:58 PM) FSM Cheaper but open account abit fussy right? I saw my friend buy PRS like so many document need to send to FSM. Bro.. only first time open account ma. After that do it online, very easy. If you want tips and market update go to FSM website and read, also come to LYN forum also can.But bank will tell u before the market turn sour and u can sell before it drops right? That's what I know. As for Bank.. when u buy and sell, everytime need to go bank. Think of getting out drive car, find packing, take number and queue also not worth it la. If you are not so flexible in work, lagi teruk.. only lunch time can go bank. Bank sales people wont update you anything la, unless u are investing big amount. But after update u few times by phone, they also lazy and forgot to do it already. Unless u think it is worth doing all that just to go see the pretty and sexy sales person, then different cerita. Bear in mind, the sales person also high turn over rate. |
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 15 2015, 12:12 PM) Bro.. only first time open account ma. After that do it online, very easy. If you want tips and market update go to FSM website and read, also come to LYN forum also can. If you want to buy new fund how yah? Have to transfer from your bank account to FSM then only can buy or what? I know I should not be asking this question. But just ask la. Haha. Hope can get some answer here.As for Bank.. when u buy and sell, everytime need to go bank. Think of getting out drive car, find packing, take number and queue also not worth it la. If you are not so flexible in work, lagi teruk.. only lunch time can go bank. Bank sales people wont update you anything la, unless u are investing big amount. But after update u few times by phone, they also lazy and forgot to do it already. Unless u think it is worth doing all that just to go see the pretty and sexy sales person, then different cerita. Bear in mind, the sales person also high turn over rate. |
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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 15 2015, 01:20 PM) If you want to buy new fund how yah? Have to transfer from your bank account to FSM then only can buy or what? I know I should not be asking this question. But just ask la. Haha. Hope can get some answer here. Just do fpx transfer lo if you dont want to transfer your money into FSM CMF2. When u buy the find, the webpage will guide you step by step la.. dont worry |
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 15 2015, 12:27 PM) Just do fpx transfer lo if you dont want to transfer your money into FSM CMF2. When u buy the find, the webpage will guide you step by step la.. dont worry or read this 1st for more info....Popular FAQs http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/introduction.tpl |
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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 15 2015, 11:58 AM) FSM Cheaper but open account abit fussy right? I saw my friend buy PRS like so many document need to send to FSM. But bank will tell u before the market turn sour and u can sell before it drops right? That's what I know. QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 15 2015, 01:32 PM) Unless u are priority banking customer, I doubt your banker will pay close attention to your account |
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You should, it's a highly recommended fund in multiple investment seminars I've been through even from independent investment advisors. Not to mention that most fund managers are quite positive with China this year which is one of the main focus market for APDI.
Because of the funds capability of changing from equities, fixed income or money market, it's has better hedging than most funds due to it's flexibility. Although the target return is 8%, it has outperform the target and consistently provide high returns in the past years. Not to mention that the funds have low volatility relative to it's performance and return. Lower volatility translates to lower risk in investment terms. Hence the reason why it is called Ponzi 2.0. Nevertheless it is still an equity focused fund which still makes it risky. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. |
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QUOTE(eternity4life @ Apr 16 2015, 01:51 PM) You should, it's a highly recommended fund in multiple investment seminars I've been through even from independent investment advisors. Not to mention that most fund managers are quite positive with China this year which is one of the main focus market for APDI. Just a nickname Because of the funds capability of changing from equities, fixed income or money market, it's has better hedging than most funds due to it's flexibility. Although the target return is 8%, it has outperform the target and consistently provide high returns in the past years. Not to mention that the funds have low volatility relative to it's performance and return. Lower volatility translates to lower risk in investment terms. Hence the reason why it is called Ponzi 2.0. Nevertheless it is still an equity focused fund which still makes it risky. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. |
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QUOTE(eternity4life @ Apr 16 2015, 01:51 PM) You should, it's a highly recommended fund in multiple investment seminars I've been through even from independent investment advisors. Not to mention that most fund managers are quite positive with China this year which is one of the main focus market for APDI. Ponzi 1.0 is easier to type compared to Affin Hwang Select Asia Pacific ex Japan Quantum FundBecause of the funds capability of changing from equities, fixed income or money market, it's has better hedging than most funds due to it's flexibility. Although the target return is 8%, it has outperform the target and consistently provide high returns in the past years. Not to mention that the funds have low volatility relative to it's performance and return. Lower volatility translates to lower risk in investment terms. Hence the reason why it is called Ponzi 2.0. Nevertheless it is still an equity focused fund which still makes it risky. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Ponzi 2.0 is easier to type compared to CIMB-Principle Asia Pacific ex Japan Dynamic Income Fund. Those fund manager need to be more marketing savvy. Dull boring fund name. Compare that to Vanguard, Spyder, or Spartan. Uber Gen-Y'esque cool name. Xuzen This post has been edited by xuzen: Apr 16 2015, 03:36 PM |
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Wat is d approved fund size for Ponzi-2?
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So, now they have good positive return for 3 years. What do you think in future? Will it be same growth?
I don't mind if the NAV does not grow in my case, I just thinking of dividend. Hmm. wonder should I go for it or not. |
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there's a reason why it's called Ponzi 2.0
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QUOTE(knight @ Apr 18 2015, 01:10 AM) So, now they have good positive return for 3 years. What do you think in future? Will it be same growth? https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3509481I don't mind if the NAV does not grow in my case, I just thinking of dividend. Hmm. wonder should I go for it or not. Please read Post #1 thoroughly to understand dividend in the context of unit trust |
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what is the worst performance they get? How many years they running already?
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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 18 2015, 01:53 PM) Details: http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...umber=MYCIMB007 |
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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 18 2015, 01:53 PM) https://my.morningstar.com/ap/quicktake/ove...ceId=0P0000SVIH |
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 19 2015, 05:48 PM) basically I am looking to park my money better than FD ROI. Housing isnt doing very good now(I ride the entire housing bull run since 2006), liquid 2 of my house, so I am looking for something to hold on my money first and see what happen to housing in 2016-2017. |
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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 19 2015, 06:56 PM) basically I am looking to park my money better than FD ROI. Housing isnt doing very good now(I ride the entire housing bull run since 2006), liquid 2 of my house, so I am looking for something to hold on my money first and see what happen to housing in 2016-2017. Money Market fund.. but wont be higher than FD. |
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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 19 2015, 05:56 PM) basically I am looking to park my money better than FD ROI. Housing isnt doing very good now(I ride the entire housing bull run since 2006), liquid 2 of my house, so I am looking for something to hold on my money first and see what happen to housing in 2016-2017. Don't just park your money. Grow it. Property is just 1 avenue of investment. Property is going to remain sluggish for some time. Go for UT. Take on more risks. Its ok to be a little aggressive. Ull find that returns from UT can be more than property itself. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 20 2015, 02:00 PM) Don't just park your money. Grow it. Property is just 1 avenue of investment. Property is going to remain sluggish for some time. Which UT is good now? It's paid dividend per share right? So right now is the dividend good??Go for UT. Take on more risks. Its ok to be a little aggressive. Ull find that returns from UT can be more than property itself. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 20 2015, 02:00 PM) Don't just park your money. Grow it. Property is just 1 avenue of investment. Property is going to remain sluggish for some time. risk is not something I can take that easy especially the amount is huge. This is not 50K or 100KGo for UT. Take on more risks. Its ok to be a little aggressive. Ull find that returns from UT can be more than property itself. |
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Ponzi 2.0 Fund Factsheets as 31 March 2015
http://www.cimb-principal.com.my/fund_pdf/...und_MYR_FFS.pdf This post has been edited by nexona88: Apr 24 2015, 11:58 AM |
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Just got new info from the fund manager himself, expected date for this year distribution will be on May 7th.
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QUOTE(infinityplayaz @ Apr 23 2015, 05:53 PM) Just got new info from the fund manager himself, expected date for this year distribution will be on May 7th. It is already announced. URL: http://www.cimb-principal.com.my/News-@-CI...ncome_Fund.aspx |
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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 23 2015, 07:04 PM) Lol. This post has been edited by infinityplayaz: Apr 24 2015, 09:53 AM |
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6 years later, so any review?
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