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post Oct 17 2006, 03:23 PM, updated 20y ago

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Taken from here.

"So. In the latest CGW podcast, they received retail boxed copies of BF 2142.

When you open the box, a big slip of paper falls out first, preceeding any discs or manuals. The slip of paper says, essentially, that 2142 includes monitoring software which runs while your computer is online, and records "anonymous" information like your IP address, surfing habits (probably via cookie scans), and other "computing habits" in order to report this information back to ad companies and ad servers, which generates in-game ads.

Now, I can live with certain in-game ads (though apparently there will be Dodge truck and Neon ads in the bleak, futuristic world of 2142), but including a lengthy description - outside of even the Eula - seems to indicate even EA knows that this is some shady borderline spyware shit. I don't support it and won't be buying 2142 (for a host of other reasons, too)."

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Erm... someone shows me the slip of paper that they're talking about.

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post Oct 17 2006, 03:31 PM

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Wait, does this mean that if you use the internet strictly and only for porn, that the in game ads would be for porn ads?
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post Oct 17 2006, 03:35 PM

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"Enlarge your penis" or something like that. So, yeah.
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post Oct 17 2006, 03:41 PM

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i receive viagra spams daily now.. knn..
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post Oct 17 2006, 03:59 PM

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The ads are just as bad as the ads you see above here in LYN.
You people are just overreacting.
EA is not going to scan your PC for lolipr0n, lawl.
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Collected and installing. Blehhh... laugh.gif
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post Oct 17 2006, 04:03 PM

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Please la i have heard enough of this from totalbf2142 and totalbf2
everyone is so paranoid and hates bf2/Ea/Dice so much that they are willing to dig up dirt just to screw Ea/Dice Sales of bf2142

for the prople playing bf2.
you know how much information is collected for the stats system?
Collin the representetive from Dice has already explanined that it will only collect information about the advertisements ingame and nothing else
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post Oct 17 2006, 04:10 PM

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Erm, do I need to bold this part of the sentence?

The slip of paper says, essentially, that 2142 includes monitoring software which runs while your computer is online, and records "anonymous" information like your IP address, surfing habits (probably via cookie scans), and other "computing habits" in order to report this information back to ad companies and ad servers, which generates in-game ads.
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post Oct 17 2006, 04:19 PM

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funny, I didnt see that slip when I opened my box. But I saw pics of that slip before. What can we do? Just watch and see what happens? People are smart. I'm sure there's something we can patch to take care of it sooner or later.
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loli and porn add on tank's or mech's hull... lol laugh.gif

then teamspeak will like " oi!! need repair, no!! not that one.. i am the one with viagra ad.."

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post Oct 17 2006, 06:05 PM

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try to scan for adware or spyware using program like spybot if it didnt find any then is safe to know there is not harm to us...
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 17 2006, 05:29 PM)
loli and porn add on tank's or mech's hull... lol laugh.gif

then teamspeak will like " oi!!  need repair, no!! not that one.. i am the one with viagra ad.."
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those are future porn advertisment sexy robots porn drool.gif drool.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Oct 17 2006, 05:29 PM)
loli and porn add on tank's or mech's hull... lol laugh.gif

then teamspeak will like " oi!!  need repair, no!! not that one.. i am the one with viagra ad.."
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laugh.gif LMAO
that "oii!!" really makes me laugh laugh.gif

"...who are you mannn!!..." the Raj Curry ad. on TV3 tongue.gif

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post Oct 17 2006, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Oct 17 2006, 06:38 PM)
laugh.gif LMAO
that "oii!!" really makes me laugh  laugh.gif

"...who are you mannn!!..." the Raj Curry ad. on TV3  tongue.gif
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This spyware thingy ... will the PC be in danger of Trojan virus ?
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hey the server is back on! I'll look see inside the game and look for the controversial ads now.
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post Oct 17 2006, 07:18 PM

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be ready with karpersky anti virus n cheap but good AVG antivirus and some anti-spyware software ad-aware SE and spybot search n destroy... i had all this installed.. my comp free of viruses... at least..
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QUOTE(convicted_knight @ Oct 17 2006, 07:18 PM)
be ready with karpersky anti virus n cheap but good AVG antivirus and some anti-spyware software ad-aware SE and spybot search n destroy... i had all this installed.. my comp free of viruses... at least..
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Im not so worry abt the virus ... im just worry abt "key-logger".
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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Oct 17 2006, 07:22 PM)
Im not so worry abt the virus ... im just worry abt "key-logger".
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key logger.. fuiyo... hehehe.. sweat.gif all the ppl see is A A D D W W SPACE R ENTER ENTER ENTER(strafting left n right firing a enemy.. jumping to avoid sniper's shots and reload then die.. waiting in the spawn menu..)

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post Oct 17 2006, 07:44 PM

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LOLROFLMAO!!!!!!
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post Oct 17 2006, 07:48 PM

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just a photoshop ya. I didnt see this ingame. Just in case if anyone thinks this is real, its not (yet).
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post Oct 17 2006, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Oct 17 2006, 07:48 PM)
just a photoshop ya. I didnt see this ingame. Just in case if anyone thinks this is real, its not (yet).
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mcm i tatau.. whistling.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif then loading will be longer lah if every time got new ads.. hehehe..
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Wow... I must learn how to Photoshop..
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post Oct 18 2006, 01:32 PM

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Joystiq asks EA about the spyware, the response:

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The advertising program in Battlefield 2142 does not access any files which are not directly related to the game. It does not capture personal data such as cookies, account login detail, or surfing history.

BF 2142 delivers ads by region. The advertising system uses a player's IP address to determine the region of the player, assisting to serve the appropriate ads by region and language. For instance, a player in Paris might be presented with ads in French. The information collected will not be repurposed for other uses.

Battlefield 2142 also tracks "impression data" related to in-game advertisements: location of a billboard in the game, brand advertised, duration of advertisement impression, etc. This information is used to help advertisers qualify the reach of a given advertisement.

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post Oct 18 2006, 02:52 PM

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i thinks for asia user is not infected since it did not included the paper of notice regarding the adware...
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post Oct 18 2006, 02:59 PM

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Erm... someone shows me the slip of paper that they're talking about.

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Added in first post.
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post Oct 18 2006, 03:04 PM

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replace the viagra add with t*t. the mech will have 4 t*t laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

last thing i need is pwnd by mech with 4 t*t doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif


Just notice:-
or worst... the t*t have a gatling gun at bottom, laugh.gif
shot by those gatling really pwning and lol doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Oct 18 2006, 02:59 PM)
Erm... someone shows me the slip of paper that they're talking about.

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Added in first post.
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IMHO ... imdun think Asia version got the slip of paper. My guess is only US has that.
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post Oct 18 2006, 08:50 PM

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I do get 4 RM1 notes in my package and some other brochures, but not that slip.
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post Oct 18 2006, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Oct 17 2006, 07:44 PM)
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WAKAKAKAKA ROFL LMAO.. Nice one..can u rent me that one?
For RM9.99.
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post Oct 19 2006, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(XenoFr3ak @ Oct 18 2006, 08:45 PM)
IMHO ... imdun think Asia version got the slip of paper. My guess is only US has that.
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cause asia have very little privacy issue. in US you can sue, but here EA dont even bother...
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post Oct 19 2006, 01:23 AM

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the deluxe version we get to have the notice, it first page of the manual,

reply to xeno below: after few hours of playing i didnt notice anything, lol not even ingame ads hahhah

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post Oct 19 2006, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(valho @ Oct 19 2006, 01:23 AM)
the deluxe version we get to have the notice, it first page of the manual,
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U r right Valho ... i just saw it. Dang. So far ... did u face any spyware issues while playing BF2142 ??
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http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=11300
http://www.totalbf2142.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4955

Explanation on the ingame adware.
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QUOTE(SoulReaper @ Oct 18 2006, 09:18 PM)
WAKAKAKAKA ROFL LMAO.. Nice one..can u rent me that one?
For RM9.99.
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lol sure tongue.gif

I know what will be plastered on apam_savior's mech

powered by 100% Gambir Asli laugh.gif
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Battlefield: 2142 Patch Asks You To Leave System Open To Hackers via Kotaku.

Hey, even more reason to just love Battlefield 2142, EA and DICE. Sure, they are infecting you with spyware... I'm sorry, a piece of software that allows them to more accurately monitor in-game ad usage. Sorry, even worse! But hey, it's just spyware... not exactly like they're leaving the backdoor open to hackers.

Well, except they are. According to Hearless Gamer, EA has already released a patch for BF:2142 today that requires you to uninstall a critical Windows Update patch.

What does that patch do?

"A security issue has been identified in the Windows Kernel that could allow an attacker to compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it."

Gosh, what will EA do to their loyal Battlefield: 2142 fans next? Decapitate them by propelling the DVD out of a cannon at their necks? -Florian Eckhardt
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post Oct 20 2006, 02:44 PM

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So here I quote..

Actually if you research a bit (google for "KB922 problem") you will find that this patch does in fact break many different programs and Microsoft has already released patches for that:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/924867/

Also, as for programs using kernel functions, lets do some quick checks, shall we ?

C:\>dumpbin /imports c:\WINDOWS\system32\notepad.exe | findstr /i kernel
KERNEL32.dll

C:\>dumpbin /imports c:\WINDOWS\system32\mspaint.exe | findstr /i kernel
KERNEL32.dll
Bound to KERNEL32.dll [424377D2] Fri Mar 25 03:30:42 2005

kernel32.dll is not the actual kernel, but it certainly uses kernel functions to load and initialize stuff. I wont even talk about ntdll here. Good luck finding programs that do NOT use the kernel that are not viruses written in assembler.

The irony of this whole thing is that if EA had not put that slip of paper in the box, no one would have been concerned, but they went ahead and did the decent thing of letting people know what was going on, and people are all up in arms, claiming it's spyware, and an invasion of their privacy. What EA is doing here is LESS invasive than most websites you gladly visit. They don't tell you beforehand that they collect and store data on your PC through cookies and other such means.

That, too.
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QUOTE(slickz @ Oct 19 2006, 02:57 PM)
lol sure tongue.gif

I know what will be plastered on apam_savior's mech

powered by 100% Gambir Asli  laugh.gif
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LOL
<--------- Make sure my avatar's there too! laugh.gif
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post Oct 24 2006, 07:55 PM

What the hell?? This will gonna shit happen.......??
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QUOTE(SoulReaper @ Oct 18 2006, 09:18 PM)
WAKAKAKAKA ROFL LMAO.. Nice one..can u rent me that one?
For RM9.99.
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Muahahaha...... laugh.gif Viagra advertisment in the games tongue.gif

 

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