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English Clubs Chelsea FC 2014/15 BPL Champion V33A, West Brom v BPL Champion 2.55am #810

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hakbu
post Apr 15 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Sedih @ Apr 15 2015, 01:13 PM)
Why Chelsea so strong in FM? First season got quadruple. Never in my FM life got achieve liddat.
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there are some discussion in the neighbor thread about how Chelsea spent the money recently and previously under Roman era, and even a few season before that.

I can simplify the discussion into three phases of spending for us.

Before Roman - we attracted and signed big faded european stars.

Pre Roman - we signed players without even thinking of the future, all was straight about quality and yes the investment made by Roman significantly helped in the recruitment process. We did the recruitment process in just one season hinting on our spending power.

Recently - Bruce Buck spearhead the campaign on self sustainable Chelsea, and Roman demand us to obey the FFP, indicating the end of Pre-Roman era when we can sign anyone we want (almost...). This started with the signing of Ramires, it took us 4 years to re-do the squad..compared to the Pre-Roman era where we can do it in just one season. We also changed the policy from experienced quality to prospect quality ie Hazard, Oscar, Azpi

regarding Roman dodgy business, it is not something new..everything available on the net..to put this into perspective, the fall of USSR opened up a huge gap in society where opportunistic people like Roman rose to power..mostly through a shady business..what do you expect from a politician plus businessman..hahaha but he did invest a lot in his area and his club.

my point is, we are aware of the situation..but as a fan, this will never stop us from supporting the club. the fact is, so far he did invest a lot, he did turned his investment (debt) into equity, he is supporting us and want the club to keep on winning, he is by far the best owner of football club in PL.

his situation now like in a restaurant business, he will keep on investing to help the float and achieve club self sustain..it is a long term business..but we are on the verge of doing that in a few season. after that he can take the profict, but i doubt that he will do that..I bet all the money will be straight back to strengthen the squad.

it is a give and take, where he provide us financially..and we provide him with visibility and avoid threat from Putin.

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post Apr 15 2015, 04:21 PM

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They are still implying Chelsea a big spender.
Aren't they a bigger spender than us?
It is just Chelsea spending wisely, negotiate better and scout better than them.
Our manager also contributing greately in finding squad balances and fixing most of our weaknesses.
Though I agree with them that chelsea rarely bring up the youth to the first teams.
Well that is a big drawback when we constantly change managers that didn't meet up with the boss expectations.
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post Apr 15 2015, 04:25 PM

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era spending big money to buy player without looking at the price tag is over
we have to obey to ffp
so we buy low sell high...that's what businessman do to sustain

butthurt because we have rusiamafia $$$?
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just a question out of my curiosity, let say if it's true that Roman laundering his money in Chelsea FC from whateva resources those money came from. To put this into a more atrocious context, Roman were to found guilty and being appropriately charged (not gonna happen so long Putin on the throne). How would this eventually affected the club?
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Apr 15 2015, 05:21 PM)
They are still implying Chelsea a big spender.
Aren't they a bigger spender than us?
It is just Chelsea spending wisely, negotiate better and scout better than them.
Our manager also contributing greately in finding squad balances and fixing most of our weaknesses.
Though I agree with them that chelsea rarely bring up the youth to the first teams.
Well that is a big drawback when we constantly change managers that didn't meet up with the boss expectations.
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Hutchinson was Mou boy, McEachran was Carlo's prospect.

but to be fair, our Academy total revamp just finished a few years ago..we are starting to get the reward now..

QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Apr 15 2015, 05:25 PM)
era spending big money to buy player without looking at the price tag is over
we have to obey to ffp
so we buy low sell high...that's what businessman do to sustain

butthurt because we have rusiamafia $$$?
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when people start talking about owners background and off topic from football, i started to wondering if they just talk about that to gain moral high ground.. laugh.gif

believe me..if we starting to talk about owners shady business..world of football is full of them hahaha
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butthurt la tu, when u are less successful than other, the only thing u can do is butthurt.... where got champion butthurt one? only for loser .. smile.gif
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QUOTE(hidzwan @ Apr 15 2015, 05:29 PM)
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just a question out of my curiosity, let say if it's true that Roman laundering his money in Chelsea FC from whateva resources those money came from. To put this into a more atrocious context, Roman were to found guilty and being appropriately charged (not gonna happen so long Putin on the throne). How would this eventually affected the club?
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first, its hard to get him charged, UK already failed to do it recently in the Crimea issue.

i need more reading on this, but i believe that we will be sell to the new owner, either by Roman himself or by UK gov.


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post Apr 15 2015, 05:07 PM

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so some club manage their players these ways:
- sell important players
- buy some overrated players with big money
- unable to keep their important players
- unable to attract quality players
- management problem

When things not going well:
-because Chelsea splashed big amount of money

inb4,
- Chelsea didnt gained any profit from selling, lost gao gao




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upon reading their discussion, the only valid point that is applicable to our CURRENT team is on giving youth player a chance in the starting eleven. but what to do.. the club is very demanding and gambling on the youth might even cost the manager his job. but then again, as a club, we have no problem in complying the FFP and as a business, we keep on generating money.

problem?

http://www.cityam.com/1415910511/five-thin...rd-bridge-still
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ Apr 15 2015, 06:37 PM)
upon reading their discussion, the only valid point that is applicable to our CURRENT team is on giving youth player a chance in the starting eleven. but what to do.. the club is very demanding and gambling on the youth might even cost the manager his job. but then again, as a club, we have no problem in complying the FFP and as a business, we keep on generating money.

problem?

http://www.cityam.com/1415910511/five-thin...rd-bridge-still
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thats why we must win the PL to ease the pressure on Mou and management, and Mou stability at the club.

if we can do this 2 things, I believe that we will start using the youth more and more..FFP and HG rules help us to push for this agenda.
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QUOTE(dynames07 @ Apr 15 2015, 05:37 PM)
upon reading their discussion, the only valid point that is applicable to our CURRENT team is on giving youth player a chance in the starting eleven. but what to do.. the club is very demanding and gambling on the youth might even cost the manager his job. but then again, as a club, we have no problem in complying the FFP and as a business, we keep on generating money.

problem?

http://www.cityam.com/1415910511/five-thin...rd-bridge-still
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better than them using youth , and end up nothing, possible out of CL whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Apr 15 2015, 07:43 PM

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Bamfordinho

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post Apr 15 2015, 08:10 PM

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^ Bamfordinho and Solanke both deserves a crack at first team football imho.

Solanke top scorer in UEFA Youth League, Bamford top scorer in Boro iinm. And iinm Boro is on route to automatic promotion by getting 1st place. If Boro do make it into PL, I would say give Bamford, Kalas and Omeruo another loan spell in Boro and see how they fare. If they are good enuff for PL, time to recall and challenge for first team.

Anyway, Jurgen Klopp confirmed to leave Dortmund end of this season, bet our neighbors are fapping non stop to the news. lel

Btw shud we join the player raid from Dortmund? Realistically, who can we target?

Hummels - we have enuff CB dy.
Reus - reminds me of Robben when he was younger, leg mcm made of glass, injury prone


Who else? Gundogen, Aubemayeng?

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Apr 15 2015, 08:10 PM)
^ Bamfordinho and Solanke both deserves a crack at first team football imho.

Solanke top scorer in UEFA Youth League, Bamford top scorer in Boro iinm. And iinm Boro is on route to automatic promotion by getting 1st place. If Boro do make it into PL, I would say give Bamford, Kalas and Omeruo another loan spell in Boro and see how they fare. If they are good enuff for PL, time to recall and challenge for first team.

Anyway, Jurgen Klopp confirmed to leave Dortmund end of this season, bet our neighbors are fapping non stop to the news. lel

Btw shud we join the player raid from Dortmund? Realistically, who can we target?

Hummels - we have enuff CB dy.
Reus - reminds me of Robben when he was younger, leg mcm made of glass, injury prone
Who else? Gundogen, Aubemayeng?
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i'm quite fancy sokratis & mkhitaryan from dordmund..
however i'm prefer if chelsea maintain the current squad..
only let go couple of players & replace them with couple of youngsters or player that will be back from loan..
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Solanke is wayyy toooo far from first team. The closest i can give for striker maybe bamford.

U gotta understand that there is giant gap between pro football and youth football. Remember carlton cole? He was a record holder or something with chelsea reserves last time.

And of course if we put bamford next season, there is a risk he might failed and cause us the title indirectly...mou needs to make a decision..for me i will only risk bamford...solanke can stay another season in youth and we can chip in here and there for few more matches
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agree with u bro. i've been drooling for bamford since last season. biggrin.gif
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I do agree it is still too early for solanke to join the squad.
as for bamford I think it is time for him to join the squad perhaps as third striker.
solanke have to wait for another season or two when remy might transfer out.
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watching Suarez rekting PSG..
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Apr 16 2015, 04:23 AM)
watching Suarez rekting PSG..
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