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TStarapapa
post Apr 7 2015, 09:33 AM, updated 10y ago

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Hi Guys,

Most other speaker manufacturers have their own owners thread and I know there's at least a few of us here. i thought it might be nice to discuss different models, experiences, pricing and such.

Seems that the missions don't get a lot of talk here in Malaysia but, personally i love them. it would also be nice to learn of any places in Malaysia. that carry them because. Also i realize that a lot of mission owners are outside of Malaysia. so if you can comment on different models that we can't get our hands on here and any retailers that will ship to the Malaysia that would be great.

Personally I just bought MX4, MS10 and MXc2. Planning to buy MX1 in the future as my rear. My home theatre setup is 5.1.2. With Onkyo NR636 AV and Onkyo Dolby enabled speaker.
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post Apr 7 2015, 11:03 AM

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Show some pics will cheers up this thread smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2015, 12:27 PM

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If you like mission you should consider the dipole for surround
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post Apr 7 2015, 08:13 PM

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I have a 20-year old Mission 753 with a pair of Arcam Delta 290/290P collecting dust inside my store room. Bought the speakers and amp in 95 when I was a student in the UK.
Last time Missions speakers were quite popular among Malaysian students studying in the UK.

Any idea if there is any hifi shops in KL that can resurrect these old speakers to new lease of life?
I know of a hifi shop in SG that can modify the 753 by chnaging the capacitors, cross-overs and internal wiring to keep the sound "up to date" with the competition.

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post Apr 7 2015, 08:46 PM

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Try amcorp mall
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post Apr 7 2015, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 7 2015, 08:46 PM)
Try amcorp mall
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Will go jalan-jalan there one of these days.


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post Apr 8 2015, 12:21 AM

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Hi Guys,

Great to see some response. Here are pictures of my current setup. I have a small room only and room a bit messy.

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I also posted in youtube my current setup but this is before i bought the MXc2 center speaker at,

https://youtu.be/343cp1SG9RE

I use an Onkyo TX-NR636 AV. Anyone of you guys had used or is using Onkyo?
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post Apr 8 2015, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 7 2015, 12:27 PM)
If you like mission you should consider the dipole for surround
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Mission dipole? which model you recommend? I kinda like the MX1. Done an audition at CMY 1Utama and it sounded great and look nice also.
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post Apr 8 2015, 06:16 AM

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Don't remember what is the model. Mx1 is good but using it as surround is too directional. You don't need your surround to sound great but more to filling up
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post Apr 8 2015, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 8 2015, 06:16 AM)
Don't remember what is the model. Mx1 is good but using it as surround is too directional. You don't need your surround to sound great but more to filling up
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Thanks bro for the tip. Guess i need to do more auditions smile.gif

Anyway, where u guys buy ur speakers? I only know two shops, CMY and the shop at LG lowyat.
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post Apr 8 2015, 09:33 AM

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There is a lot in amcorp. If you search in hifi4sale website there is a lot more
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post Apr 8 2015, 09:41 AM

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Hmm, i sometimes go there but didnt notice any hifi shop. Guess i'll google some mor.
Hey guys, where is ur pics if ur setup? Pls also lost out the price and where u bought it
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post Apr 8 2015, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(tarapapa @ Apr 8 2015, 08:51 AM)
Thanks bro for the tip. Guess i need to do more auditions smile.gif

Anyway, where u guys buy ur speakers? I only know two shops, CMY and the shop at LG lowyat.
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post Apr 8 2015, 07:43 PM

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Been using mission m33i for 5 years or more. Good for music and movies.
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post Apr 8 2015, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(tarapapa @ Apr 8 2015, 09:41 AM)
Hmm, i sometimes go there but didnt notice any hifi shop. Guess i'll google some mor.
Hey guys, where is ur pics if ur setup? Pls also lost out the price and where u bought it
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Picture taken quite time a go.


TV: Panasonic P65ST60K
AVR: Yamaha A2030
Power Amp: Emotiva XPA-5
Center Speaker: B&W CMC
Front Speaker: B&@ CM8
Surround: KEF IQ8
Sub: SVS PC12-NSD
Player: Oppo 103D
Dac: Arcam R-DAC
Speaker Cables: XLO Ultra, XLO HTP, Oxygen
Interconnect: XLO-HTP1, XLO Digitital, QED HDMI
Power cords: VDH Mainstream Hybrid, QED, XLO ultra power


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post Apr 8 2015, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 8 2015, 09:47 PM)
Picture taken quite time a go.
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Nice!! thumbup.gif B&W cm series with SVS PC sub
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post Apr 8 2015, 11:13 PM

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Can I know how much is the MX4? And where u bought it?
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post Apr 9 2015, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Apr 8 2015, 11:13 PM)
Can I know how much is the MX4? And where u bought it?
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I bought it at CMY Uptown. MX4 if not mistaken i bought for 2.5k per pair
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post Apr 9 2015, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ Apr 8 2015, 10:45 PM)
Nice!!  thumbup.gif  B&W cm series with SVS PC sub
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Nice bro!!
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post Apr 9 2015, 08:58 AM

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Yup is good for movie and music. Is a bit more rounder
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QUOTE(tarapapa @ Apr 9 2015, 08:37 AM)
I bought it at CMY Uptown. MX4 if not mistaken i bought for 2.5k per pair
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The price is reasonable
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post Apr 11 2015, 10:51 AM

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Now at CMY 1Utama got stock for MXc2. Anyone interested to upgrade their center, go fo it smile.gif
CMY still maintain same price after GST
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post Apr 11 2015, 11:06 AM

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You should try the klipsch RC center.
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post Apr 11 2015, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 11 2015, 11:06 AM)
You should try the klipsch RC center.
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I guess have to audition both at the same time to know if its worth paying the extra bucks for Klipsch. But please try to focus on Mission on this thread.
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post Apr 16 2015, 04:01 PM

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My 1st hifi speaker is a mission model 707 driven by Kenwood Ka3020 amp. My brother bought it 2nd hand while he was in UK. Now the speaker already kaput. But i used the tweeter on my Xavian xn185mk2 when the xavian tweeter kaput suddenly. overall the sound is good.
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post Apr 18 2015, 08:55 PM

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Now the current Mission lineup is so much different than the time you bought those. How about wires and plugs. What type of speaker wires you guys using? How much is AWG? Do you guy use banana plugs?
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post Apr 19 2015, 01:11 AM

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What is your budget ?
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post Apr 20 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 19 2015, 01:11 AM)
What is your budget ?
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Budget for what? The wires?
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Yes the cables you intent to buy
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post Aug 21 2015, 02:53 PM

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post Aug 21 2015, 08:15 PM

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The speaker wood looks very beautiful
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post Aug 22 2015, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 21 2015, 08:15 PM)
The speaker wood looks very beautiful
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old school age, england made thumbup.gif

widget bro, how to identify this pair of mission 753 speaker is normal or freedom version?
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post Aug 22 2015, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 22 2015, 09:30 AM)
old school age, england made thumbup.gif

widget bro, how to identify this pair of mission 753 speaker is normal or freedom version?
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That nice classic look
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post Aug 22 2015, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 21 2015, 02:53 PM)
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How much?

Anyone know what is the cheapest price for useable floor stand speaker? Mostly used for movies.
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Aug 22 2015, 06:10 PM)
How much?

Anyone know what is the cheapest price for useable floor stand speaker? Mostly used for movies.
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this pair estimate 600 i didnt ask yet.
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post Aug 22 2015, 09:57 PM

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That is cheap although is quite old speaker
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post Aug 22 2015, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 22 2015, 07:29 PM)
this pair estimate 600 i didnt ask yet.
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Thanks for the info...

Anyway, I prefer something cosmetic looks newer... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Aug 22 2015, 10:52 PM)
Thanks for the info...

Anyway, I prefer something cosmetic looks newer...  tongue.gif
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post Sep 10 2015, 05:18 PM

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Hah Mission? My first speaker was Mission M34 and M3c2.. really amazing! Watching War of The Worlds movie, when the car smashed one to another from above, sound very surprising. Audience get very afraid..
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post Apr 17 2016, 04:15 PM

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This is my current setup right now. Still using Sony rear speakers for surround. Don't have budget yet to change to Mission.

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My room has limited space. So, have to place the sub and front speakers like that.

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QUOTE(tarapapa @ Apr 17 2016, 04:15 PM)
This is my current setup right now. Still using Sony rear speakers for surround. Don't have budget yet to change to Mission.

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My room has limited space. So, have to place the sub and front speakers like that.
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Do you feel boomy as the sub near the wall & Speaker port (back side) too near wall too.
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Apr 18 2016, 09:04 AM)
Do you feel boomy as the sub near the wall & Speaker port (back side) too near wall too.
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Rear ported speaker need to have like 1 feet away from wall
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Apr 18 2016, 09:04 AM)
Do you feel boomy as the sub near the wall & Speaker port (back side) too near wall too.
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Not so boomy. I just use the ACCUEQ calibration that comes with Onkyo to ensure the sound is just right. Although this calibration tool not so accurate. It suits my ears. The Sub volume i adjust manually.

I prefer a bigger room but living in a condo, this is what i can do with what i have. This is actually my man cave. The living room is just to watch Astro and for guests.
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QUOTE(tarapapa @ Apr 17 2016, 04:15 PM)
This is my current setup right now. Still using Sony rear speakers for surround. Don't have budget yet to change to Mission.

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My room has limited space. So, have to place the sub and front speakers like that.
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Your sub can move to other location as sub can be place almost anywhere the sound from sub is non directional
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Apr 19 2016, 09:54 PM)
Your sub can move to other location as sub can be place almost anywhere the sound from sub is non directional
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I was thinking of putting teh sub at the back of my room but the cable not long enough. Hmm.. if only i have more money
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QUOTE(widget @ Apr 7 2015, 09:13 PM)
I have a 20-year old Mission 753 with a pair of Arcam Delta 290/290P collecting dust inside my store room. Bought the speakers and amp in 95 when I was a student in the UK.
Last time Missions speakers were quite popular among Malaysian students studying in the UK.

Any idea if there is any hifi shops in KL that can resurrect these old speakers to new lease of life?
I know of a hifi shop in SG that can modify the 753 by chnaging the capacitors, cross-overs and internal wiring to keep the sound "up to date" with the competition.
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Hey WTA did you manage to fix your mission 753. Where?

I got a pair of mission 753 with one side missing tweeter.
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Am going to share some really good pictures of Mission series speakers. Enjoy every one!!

Mission MX 6 Floor Standing Speaker

Mission SX-2 Bookshelf Speaker


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QUOTE(alvinfks78 @ May 3 2017, 02:45 PM)
Hey WTA did you manage to fix your mission 753. Where?

I got a pair of mission 753 with one side missing tweeter.
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Hey, if you still haven't fixed it I can try taking a look at the speakers. If only the tweeters are faulty then its relatively easy to replace.
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QUOTE(penmarker @ Aug 9 2017, 11:36 AM)
Hey, if you still haven't fixed it I can try taking a look at the speakers. If only the tweeters are faulty then its relatively easy to replace.
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Thx. already passed it on to my bro. he fixed and is using it. rclxms.gif biggrin.gif. He cannibalized his other mission speakers whistling.gif

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QUOTE(penmarker @ Aug 9 2017, 10:36 AM)
Hey, if you still haven't fixed it I can try taking a look at the speakers. If only the tweeters are faulty then its relatively easy to replace.
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u know anywhere i can take my mission 753 to see a speaker doctor/repairer ?
my 753 seems to be missing lots of highs and details ..
physically everything looks good ... maybe the electronics inside needs TLC hmm.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 1 2018, 09:16 PM)
u know anywhere i can take my mission 753 to see a speaker doctor/repairer ?
my 753 seems to be missing lots of highs and details ..
physically everything looks good ... maybe the electronics inside needs TLC  hmm.gif
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your tweeters are probably blown... try to play them loud, then cover the tweeter, see if the sound changes, it does not change much, means you know its blown... I have the same exact problem on one side.... perhaps we can hunt together. I am looking around for ppl who can repair the tweeter
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 1 2018, 10:38 PM)
your tweeters are probably blown... try to play them loud, then cover the tweeter, see if the sound changes, it does not change much, means you know its blown... I have the same exact problem on one side.... perhaps we can hunt together. I am looking around for ppl who can repair the tweeter
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The tweeter so easily kaput ?
I don't play my music very loud.. That's why I suspect electronics rather than a blown tweeter
And it's exactly the same on both sides.. Tried different amplifier already too..
Do update if u found a Doctor that's able to remedy the situation.. Or at least diagnose what's the exact problem...
Then can start hunting for exact replacement parts
Gonna try playing them loud tomoro and cover the tweeter as u suggested ..
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 1 2018, 11:08 PM)
The tweeter so easily kaput ?
I don't play my music very loud.. That's why I suspect electronics rather than a blown tweeter
And it's exactly the same on both sides.. Tried different amplifier already too..
Do update if u found a Doctor that's able to remedy the situation.. Or at least diagnose what's the exact problem...
Then can start hunting for exact replacement parts
Gonna try playing them loud tomoro and cover the tweeter as u suggested ..
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check out Octave Electronics in FB...
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The 753 tweeter has ferrofluid and dries out over many years. This locks up the tweeter voice coil
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 2 2018, 09:34 PM)
check out Octave Electronics in FB...
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Found a Hifi repairer supposedly quite reputable..
Sending the 753 over tomoro to have him check them out

QUOTE(dayojah @ Oct 3 2018, 10:48 PM)
The 753 tweeter has ferrofluid and dries out over many years. This locks up the tweeter voice coil
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Didn't know that.. Means even after repair they will prolly just last me another 15 years or so la.. Hopefully
Maybe I didn't use them regular enuff
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Sent my 753 over to repair man
Preliminary testing shows tweeters still working
So it is most likely a crossover issue.. Will definitely be much cheaper than sourcing and replacing tweeters
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 5 2018, 03:00 PM)
Sent my 753 over to repair man
Preliminary testing shows tweeters still working
So it is most likely a crossover issue..  Will definitely be much cheaper than sourcing and replacing tweeters
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tweeter sometimes can be still be working but its not as clear... i have a pair that way... one side the tweeter was slightly dull, even though it made sound....

Anyways, where did you send your Missions to ? do share how much it cost you to repair. Cheers

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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 5 2018, 04:21 PM)
tweeter sometimes can be still be working but its not as clear... i have a pair that way... one side the tweeter was slightly dull, even though it made sound....

Anyways, where did you send your Missions to ? do share how much it cost you to repair. Cheers
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costs unknown yet
left speakers there for fella to check and do his work
its a mr OH who stays in OUG
elderly man with heaps of stuff in his place

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Faulty crossovers are uncommon. Bad connections to the tweeter do happen.
Muffled tweeters, where the dome has not been pushed in by a kid, is often the ferrofluid pooled at the bottom and congealed into glue. Blown tweeter coils go open and don't work at all.

Mr Oh knows what he is doing.
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Oct 5 2018, 10:59 PM)
Faulty crossovers are uncommon. Bad connections to the tweeter do happen.
Muffled tweeters, where the dome has not been pushed in by a kid, is often the ferrofluid pooled at the bottom and congealed into glue. Blown tweeter coils go open and don't work at all.

Mr Oh knows what he is doing.
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i take it u are familiar with mr Oh and his work ?
1 of the tweeters did look like it has been pressed ... prolly by my kids during their younger days shocking.gif
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He has a very long history and is well regarded. Sometimes he gets overloaded with work.

I have a pair of 752s and they are hard dome type. Sometimes a pressed in dome can be sucked out.
Why do kids always do this?
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Oct 6 2018, 09:50 PM)
He has a very long history and is well regarded. Sometimes he gets overloaded with work.

I have a pair of 752s and they are hard dome type. Sometimes a pressed in dome can be sucked out.
Why do kids always do this?
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yeah .. i have done that for a 12 inch driver using a vacuum laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Oct 5 2018, 10:59 PM)
Faulty crossovers are uncommon. Bad connections to the tweeter do happen.
Muffled tweeters, where the dome has not been pushed in by a kid, is often the ferrofluid pooled at the bottom and congealed into glue. Blown tweeter coils go open and don't work at all.

Mr Oh knows what he is doing.
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if the gel is congealed, what can be done to repair the tweeter?
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Just bought Mission speaker after long consideration...

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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 7 2018, 05:17 PM)
if the gel is congealed, what can be done to repair the tweeter?
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btw .. when i met mr oh .. i did mention maybe tweeter died
he suggested possible he has a fren who may have a replacement alternative since original tweeter can no longer be acquired
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 7 2018, 06:56 PM)
btw .. when i met mr oh .. i did mention maybe tweeter died
he suggested possible he has a fren who may have a replacement alternative since original tweeter can no longer be acquired
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that would be george in melawati smile.gif i managed to find back the spoilt tweeter... so i can send to check if it can be fixed.
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 7 2018, 08:07 PM)
that would be george in melawati smile.gif i managed to find back the spoilt tweeter... so i can send to check if it can be fixed.
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thats good ...
good luck !!

ps. no idea who that fren is though
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 7 2018, 08:07 PM)
that would be george in melawati smile.gif i managed to find back the spoilt tweeter... so i can send to check if it can be fixed.
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subscribed to see if can fix spoilt tweeter, first time heard tweeter can repair. I thought only woofer/mid bass driver can be repaired tho.
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I have seen a UK company that rebuilds the 753 tweeter
UKP78 for a pair, exchange basis
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I have seen a UK company that rebuilds the 753 tweeter
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 10 2018, 08:03 PM)
That's the one.
I have never used them.
The photo looks like the 752 tweeter as well.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 7 2018, 05:22 PM)
Just bought Mission VX-2 after long consideration. Why no review on this speaker?! Initially thought of used Mission 760iSE and MX2, but dislikes their lack of highs. Require some Treble adjustment to spice it up. But new VX-2 seems crystal clear on treble on pure direct mode.
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i have a pair of 760iSE actually... i never found the treble lacking. not sure about the MX2. I found the 760iSE imaging to be very good and definitely no lack of clarity. served me well for >10years.
It could the amp that the SE were being driven by.
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 7 2018, 06:56 PM)
btw .. when i met mr oh .. i did mention maybe tweeter died
he suggested possible he has a fren who may have a replacement alternative since original tweeter can no longer be acquired
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how goes your repairs? did he resolve the problem? what was the cost?
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how goes your repairs? did he resolve the problem? what was the cost?
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asked him on monday ..
he has not fully diagnose the problem yet ..
didnt wanna kacau him too much .. u know la elderly ppl sometimes a bit eccentric one ph34r.gif
maybe tomoro or saturday will ask him again
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 11 2018, 08:55 PM)
i have a pair of 760iSE actually... i never found the treble lacking. not sure about the MX2. I found the 760iSE imaging to be very good and definitely no lack of clarity. served me well for >10years.
It could the amp that the SE were being driven by.
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Last time how much you spent on 760iSE? I found nowadays so many used 760 series on market. Didn't aware many years back mission brand already so popular in our country.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 13 2018, 08:13 PM)
Didn't aware many years back mission brand already so popular in our country.
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Many Mission speakers were brought over by people who had been studying or working in the UK
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Many Mission speakers were brought over by people who had been studying or working in the UK
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I see. Initially I thought those used Mission came from Singapore.
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I have seen them sold here in Malaysia, crazy prices compared to the UK
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Last time how much you spent on 760iSE? I found nowadays so many used 760 series on market. Didn't aware many years back mission brand already so popular in our country.
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i cant remember, i was a teenager back then.... if i were to guess, it would not have been more than 800-900. Mission was very popular back in 90s...
Alot of the used ones on the market are usually 760... i but SE are rare.... the SE are bi wire able.... its makes a big difference. not the bi wiring, the drivers of the SE are better
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I see. Initially I thought those used Mission came from Singapore.
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i am not sure about SG or from UK, i bought mine from current connection (an electrical shop in Atria once upon a time)....
my uncle bought the 753 from a local shop as well.... so if i were to guess, i would say these are locally purchased sets.
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 15 2018, 09:49 PM)
i cant remember, i was a teenager back then.... if i were to guess, it would not have been more than 800-900. Mission was very popular back in 90s...
Alot of the used ones on the market are usually 760... i but SE are rare.... the SE are bi wire able.... its makes a big difference. not the bi wiring, the drivers of the SE are better
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I like 760iSE soft bass and its midrange vocal, too bad it's lacking treble which is not my taste, else I already bought one of the used unit.
i have denon by mission ms-50 as well, the low midrange is too loud, not my taste and I guess it could be due to the resonant from the plastic back wall. but this mission ms-50 seems very famous from the internet discussion, kinda strange.. confused.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 12 2018, 12:38 AM)
asked him on monday ..
he has not fully diagnose the problem yet ..
didnt wanna kacau him too much .. u know la elderly ppl sometimes a bit eccentric one  ph34r.gif
maybe tomoro or saturday will ask him again
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how goes your repairs? I will probably be sending my set in next week. btw curious, what amp are you using to drive your 753?
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how goes your repairs? I will probably be sending my set in next week. btw curious, what amp are you using to drive your 753?
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asked him yesterday .. he said getting to it soon
well ... just have to be patient lorr

when i bought the 753s over 20 years ago i used the top of the range yamaha av amp to power them (cost more than the 8000A then )
it was never going to be as good as a dedicated stereo amp
but i wanted the best of both worlds
that amp died .. now just using another ok yamaha amp
i guess i am more compromiseable nowadays ... to a certain extent anyways cool2.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 21 2018, 07:56 AM)
asked him yesterday .. he said getting to it soon
well ... just have to be patient lorr

when i bought the 753s over 20 years ago i used the top of the range yamaha av amp to power them (cost more than the 8000A then )
it was never going to be as good as a dedicated stereo amp
but i wanted the best of both worlds
that amp died .. now just using another ok yamaha amp
i guess i am more compromiseable nowadays ... to a certain extent anyways  cool2.gif
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So how, does the repaired tweeter "tweeting" like bird? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 29 2018, 07:28 PM)
So how, does the repaired tweeter "tweeting" like bird? biggrin.gif
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asked him again last weds ..
still havent gotten to it yet he says bangwall.gif

ppl who are in a hurry should not send their stuff to him
i already knew that .. thats why only kacau him once a week for updates cool2.gif

will update when i get it back ..
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QUOTE(QiW @ Oct 21 2018, 07:56 AM)
asked him yesterday .. he said getting to it soon
well ... just have to be patient lorr

when i bought the 753s over 20 years ago i used the top of the range yamaha av amp to power them (cost more than the 8000A then )
it was never going to be as good as a dedicated stereo amp
but i wanted the best of both worlds
that amp died .. now just using another ok yamaha amp
i guess i am more compromiseable nowadays ... to a certain extent anyways  cool2.gif
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I totally get what you mean by compromise... back in my college years i had an AVI200 Harmon for movies and a low end proton integrated for my missions for music... i did try to play the music thru the AVI but i didnt stick with it for long... these days, i just compromise the movie and play them thru the 8000LX. smile.gif one day, maybe i will looking to setting up a dual system again... maybe.
oh i sent in my 753 to Octave for repairs... so i will keep tabs with you on the progress... all the best with your repairs!
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i can only slowly wait la
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Hi Mission fans, do you guys send back the warranty card for warranty registration? Usually how long is the warranty period? Is it 5 years? Can't really find much info on this, thanks.
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Oct 30 2018, 09:50 AM)
I totally get what you mean by compromise... back in my college years i had an AVI200 Harmon for movies and a low end proton integrated for my missions for music... i did try to play the music thru the AVI but i didnt stick with it for long... these days, i just compromise the movie and play them thru the 8000LX. smile.gif one day, maybe i will looking to setting up a dual system again... maybe.
oh i sent in my 753 to Octave for repairs... so i will keep tabs with you on the progress... all the best with your repairs!
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finally brought my speakers back today
sounds really good now although amplification and source are not up to the mission standards
will do me just fine ... not aiming for the stars
what was done ..
repaired tweeter crossover
did some cosmetics touch ups and cleaning for the speakers
charges are ... not too bad la laugh.gif

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QUOTE(QiW @ Nov 4 2018, 07:51 PM)
finally brought my speakers back today
sounds really good now although amplification and source are not up to the mission standards
will do me just fine ... not aiming for the stars
what was done ..
repaired tweeter crossover
did some cosmetics touch ups and cleaning for the speakers
charges are ... not too bad la  laugh.gif
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Great! smile.gif.... I sent mine in to octave last week. so will see. Well u can slowly hunt for 2nd hand hifi stuff to upgrade your sound smile.gif... its fun hunting for these things... slowly look, no need to rush to buy. if something really good comes along, then grab it! Cheers

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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Nov 6 2018, 08:36 AM)
Great! smile.gif.... I sent mine in to octave last week. so will see. Well u can slowly hunt for 2nd hand hifi stuff to upgrade your sound smile.gif... its fun hunting for these things... slowly look, no need to rush to buy. if something really good comes along, then grab it! Cheers
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no la ... wont do that
dont have a mega big house with the luxury of space
but happy at the moment to relive the former glory of the missions laugh.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Nov 4 2018, 07:51 PM)
...repaired tweeter crossover
did some cosmetics touch ups and cleaning for the speakers
charges are ... not too bad la  laugh.gif
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So was the tweeter changed?
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So was the tweeter changed?
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tweeter working fine .. only crossover repaired with a slight mod
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The 753 had an under-rated power resistor in the tweeter circuit, that burns.
The value varies with the year of manufacture.
There is some information on the 753 crossover here:
http://www.world-designs.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2868
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Nov 7 2018, 10:53 PM)
The 753 had an under-rated power resistor in the tweeter circuit, that burns.
The value varies with the year of manufacture.
There is some information on the 753 crossover here:
http://www.world-designs.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2868
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What's the effect of burnt resistor? Totally no voice coming out from tweeter? I have Denon Mission speaker which highs seems to be lower volume...

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What's the effect of burnt resistor? Totally no voice coming out from tweeter? I have Denon Mission speaker which highs seems to be lower volume...
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A burned resistor can go to a higher value and reduce the level.
Dried out ferrofluid can also reduce the tweeter level.
What happens if you swap left and right speakers?
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A burned resistor can go to a higher value and reduce the level.
Dried out ferrofluid can also reduce the tweeter level.
What happens if you swap left and right speakers?
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Both also same. I bought 2nd hand with "pushed in" tweeter outer layer on both, used vacuum cleaner to suck out the soft outer layer.
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The simple way to test a tweeter is to disconnect it from the crossover and see what happens by connecting to a AA battery. You are looking for the dome moving in or out evenly, not sticking at one point. If it moves in and out evenly by a mm or so according to which way round the battery is, it is almost certainly healthy
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Oct 6 2018, 09:50 PM)
He has a very long history and is well regarded. Sometimes he gets overloaded with work.

I have a pair of 752s and they are hard dome type. Sometimes a pressed in dome can be sucked out.
Why do kids always do this?
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My 780 had this issue when my 2nd son was a toddler. What I did was to use Johnson Baby oil, just a tad and lightly coat the squished dome. My 780 is rubber domed so with this baby oil and lightly rubbing in circular motion, the dome will get back it shape. Although the dome is back to its original shape but there will be lines visible (creases). This line will go away as and when the oil evaporates. Now my son is 2nd year MSU, means 19 years later still no issue. On the otherhand if the dome is punctured, thats different story.
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QUOTE(gunplakk @ Nov 6 2018, 08:36 AM)
Great! smile.gif.... I sent mine in to octave last week. so will see. Well u can slowly hunt for 2nd hand hifi stuff to upgrade your sound smile.gif... its fun hunting for these things... slowly look, no need to rush to buy. if something really good comes along, then grab it! Cheers
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reliving the joy of owning a 753 again yet ?? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Nov 30 2018, 11:28 AM)
reliving the joy of owning a 753 again yet ??  biggrin.gif
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Nope not yet.... they are still looking for the diaphragm of the tweeter. So still have to wait
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anyone using the entry level of vx series? would like to know how it fares
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anyone using the entry level of vx series? would like to know how it fares
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seems good for value especially the floorstand type. but i only listened to old mission
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anyone using the entry level of vx series? would like to know how it fares
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in my opinion the VX are not very good... but depending on what you plan to do with them... if u are using them for home theater... then it should be ok.... coz u dont need a good level clarity. but if you are doing 2 channel audio and trying to play hi-res flac files... i would recommend looking else where. the older stuff are better. u are probably better off looking for similar budgets from 2nd hand market.
Are you looking at the Vx offers from CMY? its a good price for new speakers, that much i can say.

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 13 2018, 03:23 PM)
anyone using the entry level of vx series? would like to know how it fares
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Missed out some audiophile detail when I play Stacey Kent: So Nice

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 13 2018, 05:09 PM)
seems good for value especially the floorstand type. but i only listened to old mission
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thanks bro.. its wierd to see mission launching these entry level. the worse part is the website doesnt even have the detail for speaker spec

QUOTE(gunplakk @ Dec 13 2018, 05:44 PM)
in my opinion the VX are not very good... but depending on what you plan to do with them... if u are using them for home theater... then it should be ok.... coz u dont need a good level clarity. but if you are doing 2 channel audio and trying to play hi-res flac files... i would recommend looking else where. the older stuff are better. u are probably better off looking for similar budgets from 2nd hand market.
Are you looking at the Vx offers from CMY? its a good price for new speakers, that much i can say.
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i use for both home theater and music on pure direct mode. Yea u r right i am looking from CMY. Looks like a bargain to me but...

QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 13 2018, 10:00 PM)
To be honest, not so good, you can compare my mission VX2 and small Denon Mission, but my phone recording isn't so good...
Mission VX2


Denon Mission


The VX2 definitely missed out audiophile detail when I play Stacey Kent: So Nice, the background sounds very thin and not as good as some YouTube ppl's older mission
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i dont really trust review over recording bro... but you did a great side by side comparison.. its pretty obvious has higher open high.. thumbup.gif thanks for the effort for sharing bro.. appreciate it
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 13 2018, 11:42 PM)
thanks bro.. its wierd to see mission launching these entry level. the worse part is the website doesnt even have the detail for speaker spec
i use for both home theater and music on pure direct mode. Yea u r right i am looking from CMY. Looks like a bargain to me but...
i dont really trust review over recording bro... but you did a great side by side comparison.. its pretty obvious has higher open high..  thumbup.gif  thanks for the effort for sharing bro.. appreciate it
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You looking for bookshelf speaker or floor standing speaker? I found Singapore Carousell there selling those LX-2 which got praised by what hifi and few others...

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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 14 2018, 12:05 AM)
You looking for bookshelf speaker or floor standing speaker? I found Singapore Carousell there selling those LX-2 which got praised by what hifi and few others, the after conversion rate seems another extra 100 bucks more than local VX2 only. Maybe a trip to Singapore for better speaker? That would be diehard Mission Fan's mission. Haha
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i m actually looking for an upgrade over my old chap ayam 5.1 speakers. singapore is pretty close but i scare custom cari pasal

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 14 2018, 12:30 AM)
i m actually looking for an upgrade over my old chap ayam 5.1 speakers. singapore is pretty close but i scare custom cari pasal
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Yeah, 5.1 will be hard coz too many speakers. If just 2 bookshelf maybe can try, remove the box carry the speakers only and keep the manual...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 14 2018, 08:50 AM)
Yeah, 5.1 will be hard coz too many speakers. If just 2 bookshelf maybe can try, remove the box carry the speakers only and keep the manual...
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Yea bro actually 2 floor stand n a centre first my current floor standing I can use for my rear bookshelf substitution
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 14 2018, 10:08 AM)
Yea bro actually 2 floor stand n a centre first my current floor standing I can use for my rear bookshelf substitution
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Just found I previously bookmarked a Thailand review page
https://gmlive.com/รีวิว-ชุ...onAudioVXSeries

Google translate as the savoir
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 15 2018, 01:07 AM)
Just found I previously bookmarked a Thailand review page
https://gmlive.com/รีวิว-ชุ...onAudioVXSeries

Google translate as the savoir
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 16 2018, 05:22 PM)
khob khun krab
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BTW, saw CMY has Mission MX3, this one got What Hi-Fi 5 star review, no consider that instead?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 16 2018, 07:23 PM)
BTW, saw CMY has Mission MX3, this one got What Hi-Fi 5 star review, no consider that instead?
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yea bro let me check out that option too.. hopefully i can get more detail out of these speakers compare to my chap ayam brand brows.gif
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 17 2018, 08:26 AM)
yea bro let me check out that option too.. hopefully i can get more detail out of these speakers compare to my chap ayam brand brows.gif
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What amplifier you using? Floor standing speaker requirement on amp power quite high imo...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 17 2018, 11:06 AM)
What amplifier you using? Floor standing speaker requirement on amp power quite high imo...
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i am using denon avr x2000 with 95 rms per 8 ohm channel only bro.. blush.gif
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i am using denon avr x2000 with 95 rms per 8 ohm channel only bro..  blush.gif
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What Hi-Fi 5 star product yo.
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What Hi-Fi 5 star product yo.
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its a 4 years unit d bro.. old d.. still can play 5.1 but no atmos or X

i more to HT ya sorry.. mega_shok.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Nov 30 2018, 11:28 AM)
reliving the joy of owning a 753 again yet ??  biggrin.gif
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just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 17 2018, 11:19 AM)
i am using denon avr x2000 with 95 rms per 8 ohm channel only bro..  blush.gif
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we are same biggrin.gif me x2000 user also

QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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heavvy cabinet 20kg++ each side.
the efficiency is fine to use with small & medium size amp. last time im able run loudly with marantz mini series class d about 50w per channel. im not sure was it room or speaker age itself, the bass is less satisfying compared to newer gen floorstand speaker
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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A nominal 8 Ohms impedance is claimed, though the measured curve suggests 6 Ohms as more realistic, but in any event this is not a particularly awkward load and should present no difficult y to any ha lf-respecting amplifier rated at between 25 and 150 Watts (per channel into 8 Ohms), which is what the literature suggests as compatible. Sensitivity is good at 90dB/Watt/metre.


25 to 150 watts.. a normal avr should be enough if its not running at 7.1. Sensitivity is 90dB. From paper its not a monster that is difficult to be pushed. Looks pretty ok
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 10:48 AM)
we are same biggrin.gif me x2000 user also
heavvy cabinet 20kg++ each side.
the efficiency is fine to use with small & medium size amp. last time im able run loudly with marantz mini series class d about 50w per channel. im not sure was it room or speaker age itself, the bass is less satisfying compared to newer gen floorstand speaker
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but no atmos + no preout.. a bit like last gen avr d now.. even it support for 4k
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but no atmos + no preout..  a bit like last gen avr d now.. even it support for 4k
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atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 11:33 AM)
atmos need room renovation ady. haha
play 5.1 or 7.1 enough. audyssey can enable dsx or prologic2 z the fake atmos maa. front height channel
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there are two types of atmos setup:
1) install ceiling speakers
2) change to reflection speaker or buy reflection speaker to put on top of the ur current front

i had tried reflection speaker last weekend.. the result pretty good.. but pricing of cos not going to be cheap as well..

the cheapest way is to buy a atmos enabled speaker and put on top of ur existing front for 5.1.2 or 7.1.2 and rear (if you want to) for 5.1.4 or 7.1.4

but sad case x2000 doesnt support atmos sweat.gif


front height susah sikit too close to front channel.. hard to differentiate if front standing or front height
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 10:48 AM)
we are same biggrin.gif me x2000 user also
heavvy cabinet 20kg++ each side.
the efficiency is fine to use with small & medium size amp. last time im able run loudly with marantz mini series class d about 50w per channel. im not sure was it room or speaker age itself, the bass is less satisfying compared to newer gen floorstand speaker
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The 753 you carry back from UK last time?
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 27 2018, 11:02 AM)
i am looking at the review that i capture from hifi-review.com
25 to 150 watts.. a normal avr should be enough if its not running at 7.1. Sensitivity is 90dB. From paper its not a monster that is difficult to be pushed. Looks pretty ok
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On paper looks ok and efficiency seems high, but many said no bass, bad sound when paired with small sized amp.
BTW, you bought Mission floor stander already? What model you bought?
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The 753 you carry back from UK last time?
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not from Uk but my friend house. haha he was the one studied there
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 12:07 PM)
On paper looks ok and efficiency seems high, but many said no bass, bad sound when paired with small sized amp.
BTW, you bought Mission floor stander already? What model you bought?
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not sure if can do bi-amp if bi-amp might improve if the speaker got potential.

plan change my friend.. after i read some review and comment here.. decided not to go with the entry level of mission.. the budget i concerntrate to change the center first.. improve vocal clarify over movies.. slowly change only i will think of changing front tower.
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 27 2018, 01:22 PM)
not sure if can do bi-amp if bi-amp might improve if the speaker got potential.

plan change my friend.. after i read some review and comment here.. decided not to go with the entry level of mission.. the budget i concerntrate to change the center first.. improve vocal clarify over movies.. slowly change only i will think of changing front tower.
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Yeah, aim those LX QX SX series.
Actually mission brand itself is entry level, higher end are those KEF, Dynaudio, Wilson Benesch..
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 27 2018, 01:30 PM)
Yeah, aim those LX QX SX series.
Actually mission brand itself is entry level, higher end are those KEF, Dynaudio, Wilson Benesch..
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yea man but mission top end model worthy.. but the price is not cheap also.. if KEF, Dynaudio, B&W, Klipsch those lagi exp... i m thinking to get SVS for my center.. apologize if this get out of topic from the main forum here.. blush.gif
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not sure if can do bi-amp if bi-amp might improve if the speaker got potential.

plan change my friend.. after i read some review and comment here.. decided not to go with the entry level of mission.. the budget i concerntrate to change the center first.. improve vocal clarify over movies.. slowly change only i will think of changing front tower.
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x2000 can biamp. im using for front channel brows.gif
overall sound wont increase bass, just cleaner mid and high (without affected by bass signal) like real instrument suppose to.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 03:09 PM)
x2000 can biamp. im using for front channel brows.gif
overall sound wont increase bass, just cleaner mid and high (without affected by bass signal) like real instrument suppose to.
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cool man.. none of my speakers allow biamp.. so its a region left unexplored yet.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 27 2018, 03:09 PM)
x2000 can biamp. im using for front channel brows.gif
overall sound wont increase bass, just cleaner mid and high (without affected by bass signal) like real instrument suppose to.
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Want play Bass I Love You can use subwoofer right? Haha.
It is the precious mids and highs important for front channel?
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Want play Bass I Love You can use subwoofer right? Haha.
It is the precious mids and highs important for front channel?
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depend the contents u playing the most. since i use avr, the bass are being crossover to subwoofer ady.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 26 2018, 07:55 PM)
just found mission 753 floorstander macam legacy mission model, highly praised by what hi-fi during 1990s..
what amplifier you all used to push that mission? many review saying this speaker were sensitive with amplifier pairing? is it require over 100W/channel to push it? need standalone pre + power amp?
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the 753s are not bass monsters despite them being floorstanders ..
turn the volume up a little and u get pretty satisfying tight low ends ... not the earthquake u would expect la
currently powered by a 80w/channel yamaha av amp .. more than sufficient volume to disturb the neighbours

for those more ground moving stuff i have a 10 inch sub biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 01:54 AM)
the 753s are not bass monsters despite them being floorstanders ..
turn the volume up a little and u get pretty satisfying tight low ends ... not the earthquake u would expect la
currently powered by a 80w/channel yamaha av amp .. more than sufficient volume to disturb the neighbours

for those more ground moving stuff i have a 10 inch sub  biggrin.gif
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how many speaker u connecting to it? Mind to share your cross over for the front?
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how many speaker u connecting to it? Mind to share your cross over for the front?
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dont understand what u meant by crossover

5 speakers currently powered by the amp .. 2 x 753 ... 2 x small bookshelf ... center is a small one too
sub is an active 300w 10 inch
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:09 AM)
dont understand what u meant by crossover

5 speakers currently powered by the amp .. 2 x 753 ... 2 x small bookshelf ... center is a small one too
sub is an active 300w 10 inch
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i think he meant the crossover frequency set for your sub? like 80Hz 100Hz etc.
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:09 AM)
dont understand what u meant by crossover

5 speakers currently powered by the amp .. 2 x 753 ... 2 x small bookshelf ... center is a small one too
sub is an active 300w 10 inch
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not sure if you have a GUI similar like below.

The setting of 80hz for center is the cross over setting for center.

I m more familiar to audessey but i believe yahama should have something similar for your ypao
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 28 2018, 09:11 AM)
i think he meant the crossover frequency set for your sub? like 80Hz 100Hz etc.
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for front actually hehe brows.gif Sub normally set low cross at 120hz for the standard theater setup.. if u set it to 80hz and ur front set 120hz then u will be missing 80hz to 120hz freq response. something like tat
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i think he meant the crossover frequency set for your sub? like 80Hz 100Hz etc.
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no idea .. i use the analogue dial behind the sub to adjust
if just by looking at the dial positiion and numbers .. i would guess around 50-60 hz
sub gets input signal via main speakers connection ... not sub out from amp
sub out controls in amp is set to NOT USE so all bass signal in the system gets passed to main speakers
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:17 AM)
no idea .. i use the analogue dial behind the sub to adjust
if just by looking at the dial positiion and numbers .. i would guess around 50-60 hz
sub gets input signal via main speakers connection ... not sub out from amp
sub out controls in amp is set to NOT USE so all bass signal in the system gets passed to main speakers
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very rare kind of setup.. the normal 1 i see is to have full signal to subwoofer and from subwoofer pass back mid n high freq to mains.

In your case i think the setup from amp is to have full range to be send to your main where low freq will be pass back to sub. nod.gif
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 28 2018, 09:14 AM)
user posted image
not sure if you have a GUI similar like below.

The setting of 80hz for center is the cross over setting for center.

I m more familiar to audessey but i believe yahama should have something similar for your ypao
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i just let the yamaha do whatever settings it needs to do
i just set the speakers sizes and do the setup using YPAO

the yamaha amp used is below par for mission .. but i am actually quite happy with what i am getting now
i know it can be alot better .. but that road to glory knows no ends and budget lol.gif

lets put it this way ... when i sent my speakers for repairs i listened to custom built dynaudio speakers at mr Oh's place
those dynaudio may sing just a tad sweeter driven by dedicated stereo amp and source
but not by that much la ... me using PC as source only nowadays

all my CDs and vinyls lie collecting dust .. even my old turntable broke and was given away liau
CD player too broke and was thrown away lol.gif
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 28 2018, 09:22 AM)
very rare kind of setup.. the normal 1 i see is to have full signal to subwoofer and from subwoofer pass back mid n high freq to mains.

In your case i think the setup from amp is to have full range to be send to your main where low freq will be pass back to sub.  nod.gif
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when u listen in straight stereo mode .. u would want the main speakers to get the best and full signals
signal for sub tapped from mains for better coherence according to REL la .. which i find good

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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:29 AM)
i just let the yamaha do whatever settings it needs to do
i just set the speakers sizes and do the setup using YPAO

the yamaha amp used is below par for mission .. but i am actually quite happy with what i am getting now
i know it can be alot better .. but that road to glory knows no ends and budget  lol.gif

lets put it this way ... when i sent my speakers for repairs i listened to custom built dynaudio speakers at mr Oh's place
those dynaudio may sing just a tad sweeter driven by dedicated stereo amp and source
but not by that much la ... me using PC as source only nowadays

all my CDs and vinyls lie collecting dust .. even my old turntable broke and was given away liau
CD player too broke and was thrown away lol.gif
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i think you still can explore more with the crossover setting if you want to.. i will improve your current setup too.. even my audessey does the reading.. i will still adjust the level, speeaker size and crossover myself for some minor tuning.
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:32 AM)
when u listen in straight stereo mode .. u would want the main speakers to get the best and full signals
signal for sub tapped from mains for better coherence according to REL la .. which i find good
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ideally yes.. for stereo mode but when we want to go for 2.1 then the crossover need to be tweak so that the low freq will flow to sub rather than main or some ppl will do lfe+main for double bass. depends on the system a lot of posibilities for the bass management smile.gif
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 28 2018, 09:22 AM)
very rare kind of setup.. the normal 1 i see is to have full signal to subwoofer and from subwoofer pass back mid n high freq to mains.

In your case i think the setup from amp is to have full range to be send to your main where low freq will be pass back to sub.  nod.gif
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denon call double bass or front +Lfe. oops u ady mention. i missed out haha
depend u connect Rca cable (low signal) or use speaker wire (high level) to subwoofer. can increase coverage from front direction as long the room is suitable

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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 28 2018, 10:08 AM)
denon call double bass or front +Lfe. oops u ady mention. i missed out haha
depend u connect Rca cable (low signal) or use speaker wire (high level) to subwoofer. can increase coverage from front direction as long the room is suitable
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yea something new to me too..

normally we do
avr -> front (speaker binding post) + sub (LFE)
OR some
avr -> sub -> main

but his setup is
avr -> main -> sub

this is something new to me.. really an eye opener blush.gif

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 28 2018, 09:16 AM)
for front actually hehe brows.gif Sub normally set low cross at 120hz for the standard theater setup.. if u set it to 80hz and ur front set 120hz then u will be missing 80hz to 120hz freq response. something like tat
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THX standard is 80Hz ler, haha.
None my business as I uses stereo integrated amp without sub output anyway, haha.
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 28 2018, 09:17 AM)
no idea .. i use the analogue dial behind the sub to adjust
if just by looking at the dial positiion and numbers .. i would guess around 50-60 hz
sub gets input signal via main speakers connection ... not sub out from amp
sub out controls in amp is set to NOT USE so all bass signal in the system gets passed to main speakers
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How your sub getting signal from main speaker? Thought main speaker is +ve -ve input only?
Wait, your sub is passive or active type?
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 28 2018, 10:23 AM)
THX standard is 80Hz ler, haha.
None my business as I uses stereo integrated amp without sub output anyway, haha.
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yea if follow thx standard then need to bring down front cross over to 80 to cover the freq brows.gif
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 28 2018, 10:25 AM)
How your sub getting signal from main speaker? Thought main speaker is +ve -ve input only?
Wait, your sub is passive or active type?
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i guess is high level input. expensive subwoofer can support signal loop from speakers

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 28 2018, 10:31 AM)
yea if follow thx standard then need to bring down front cross over to 80 to cover the freq brows.gif
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not easy.
i tried before Thx receiver the pioneer Lx 76, Thx floorstand, Thx subwoofer still unsatisfy.
becos i dont have Thx room tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 28 2018, 01:01 PM)
i guess is high level input. expensive subwoofer can support signal loop from speakers

not easy.
i tried before Thx receiver the pioneer Lx 76, Thx floorstand, Thx subwoofer still unsatisfy.
becos i dont have Thx room tongue.gif
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Go THX certified cinema to watch movie then...
but i found nowadays THX cinemas' bass effect lesser already. still remember 10-15 years back when I first time experience THX watching Hollow Man, the bass effect damn deep and loud, can feel the quake on floor. My mother cannot tahan and falls sick "headache and fever" after watching that movie....
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Go THX certified cinema to watch movie then...
but i found nowadays THX cinemas' bass effect lesser already. still remember 10-15 years back when I first time experience THX watching Hollow Man, the bass effect damn deep and loud, can feel the quake on floor. My mother cannot tahan and falls sick "headache and fever" after watching that movie....
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ya, unsure why quality drop or new humanity rules.
now i felt my home setup win cinema anytime
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 28 2018, 02:50 PM)
ya, unsure why quality drop or new humanity rules.
now i felt my home setup win cinema anytime
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now they only focus on top range hall like IMAX.. better accuracy but the audio too bright for me.. maybe using klipsch speaker brows.gif
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now they only focus on top range hall like IMAX.. better accuracy but the audio too bright for me.. maybe using klipsch speaker  brows.gif
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bright means two thing.
1. room is smaller than actual specs
2. over loudness from side speakers
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How your sub getting signal from main speaker? Thought main speaker is +ve -ve input only?
Wait, your sub is passive or active type?
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300w active sub
signal from main speakers using parallel tap from speaker cables
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300w active sub
signal from main speakers using parallel tap from speaker cables
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Got photo of the parallel tap or not? I got 1 sub keeping coz no pre-out or sub out of my integrated amplifier. That sub is using RCA red white input...
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Got photo of the parallel tap or not? I got 1 sub keeping coz no pre-out or sub out of my integrated amplifier. That sub is using RCA red white input...
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i am using high level input on the sub
does your sub have one ??
most active sub has la .. check yours
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 28 2018, 02:50 PM)
ya, unsure why quality drop or new humanity rules.
now i felt my home setup win cinema anytime
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Too loud bass was a gimmick.
No way to stop it from annoying the neighbours either.
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Got photo of the parallel tap or not? I got 1 sub keeping coz no pre-out or sub out of my integrated amplifier. That sub is using RCA red white input...
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just connect sub rca to left or right pre out. it works with my earlier setup.
crossover behind sub will cut the mid high frequency
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 28 2018, 05:54 PM)
bright means two thing.
1. room is smaller than actual specs
2. over loudness from side speakers
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Not sure bro.. tgv setup not mine haha
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QUOTE(QiW @ Dec 29 2018, 07:59 AM)
i am using high level input on the sub
does your sub have one ??
most active sub has la .. check yours
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mine is cheap AIO 2.1 subwoofer + 2 satellite speaker type, only 1 RCA input... satellite speaker lost dunno where only left sub sitting collecting dust.
i thought you modify the +ve -ve cable to RCA L-R channel, which would helps on my case...

QUOTE(dayojah @ Dec 29 2018, 09:58 AM)
Too loud bass was a gimmick.
No way to stop it from annoying the neighbours either.
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neighbours? we are referring to those THX cinema theater. neighbours you mean those shops tenant? haha

QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 29 2018, 10:25 AM)
just connect sub rca to left or right pre out. it works with my earlier setup.
crossover behind sub will cut the mid high frequency
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no pre-out bro, cheap integrated amp onkyo A-9010, only higher range got sub out or pre-out

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mine is cheap AIO 2.1 subwoofer + 2 satellite speaker type, only 1 RCA input... satellite speaker lost dunno where only left sub sitting collecting dust.
i thought you modify the +ve -ve cable to RCA L-R channel, which would helps on my case...
neighbours? we are referring to those THX cinema theater. neighbours you mean those shops tenant? haha
no pre-out bro, cheap integrated amp onkyo A-9010, only higher range got sub out or pre-out
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i see got 1 pair line out port. same as pre out.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Dec 29 2018, 11:57 PM)
i see got 1 pair line out port. same as pre out.
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Line out different, cannot control volume. Need control volume on amp and sub (sub no remote control) will spoil the movie watching mood, haha.
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yaya agree.. preout is old style of hifi..
last time there always a preamp and amp...

Preamp is to collect signal (tape, phono, cd) and pass it (preout) to amp to amplified the sound.

Now we use normally is one system only which we call it integrated amp. So no pre amp and amplifer.

For high end avr they still provide preout to allow the connection to amp. This is because AVR is providing dynamic power where not all speaker will get full power. You need another seperate power amp if you want constant full power to all ur speakers
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 31 2018, 12:46 PM)
Line out different, cannot control volume. Need control volume on amp and sub (sub no remote control) will spoil the movie watching mood, haha.
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just remember i used player to control volume instead of amp remote. lupa ady
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Dec 31 2018, 01:14 PM)
yaya agree.. preout is old style of hifi..
last time there always a preamp and amp...

Preamp is to collect signal (tape, phono, cd) and pass it (preout) to amp to amplified the sound.

Now we use normally is one system only which we call it integrated amp. So no pre amp and amplifer.

For high end avr they still provide preout to allow the connection to amp. This is because AVR is providing dynamic power where not all speaker will get full power. You need another seperate power amp if you want constant full power to all ur speakers
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Integrated amplifier still got pre-out de, Onkyo higher range such as A-9150 got both pre-out and sub out... The 9010 I'm using too basic entry level so no such option...
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QUOTE(voscar @ Dec 31 2018, 08:46 PM)
Integrated amplifier still got pre-out de, Onkyo higher range such as A-9150 got both pre-out and sub out... The 9010 I'm using too basic entry level so no such option...
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yea thats what i mean by those high end avr. my x2000 got zone 2 preout only sad.gif but with 1 channel sub out blush.gif
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Saw got new Mission bookshelf speaker selling at China, Mission V300, uses different tweeter unit and the cabinet craftsmanship looks nice. I wonder why our market don't have recent high end Mission model like QX LX series? Don't think this V300 will be selling here too.
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 21 2019, 06:43 PM)
Saw got new Mission bookshelf speaker selling at China, Mission V300, uses different tweeter unit and the cabinet craftsmanship looks nice. I wonder why our market don't have recent high end Mission model like QX LX series? Don't think this V300 will be selling here too.
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According to the Mission official website, there is no listed official distributor for MY. Which means no brand awareness, no advertising and promotion and more importantly no service. Not a popular brand and won’t be able to command high pricing. Many other choices in terms of brands and models out there. Even in SG which does have a official distributor, Mission isn’t saleable.
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QUOTE(chaos32 @ Jan 21 2019, 08:03 PM)
According to the Mission official website, there is no listed official distributor for MY. Which means no brand awareness, no advertising and promotion and more importantly no service. Not a popular brand and won’t be able to command high pricing. Many other choices in terms of brands and models out there. Even in SG which does have a official distributor, Mission isn’t saleable.
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I think could be Malaysian has less admiring on audiophile grade bookshelf speaker which Mission came from, most are looking on HT setup which competition is tight. Of coz recently Q Acoustics quite popular here.

Yeah, for Singapore, could see more variant of Mission model there on secondhand market. LX2 a few on sale too.

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When I last saw Mission in Malaysia, the prices were far higher than in the UK and taxes could not justify the mark up.
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Jan 22 2019, 05:52 PM)
When I last saw Mission in Malaysia, the prices were far higher than in the UK and taxes could not justify the mark up.
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All hi-fi product selling in Malaysia are overpriced. Amplifier I think overseas were at least 15% cheaper
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 24 2019, 06:32 PM)
All hi-fi product selling in Malaysia are overpriced. Amplifier I think overseas were at least 15% cheaper
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Extra layer of distributor markup via Singapore, few Malaysian distributors deal directly with the manufacturers

The crazy thing is that Yamaha and Exposure are made in Malaysia and I have a Marantz CD player that was made in Johor Bahru, Singapore
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Jan 25 2019, 03:23 PM)
Extra layer of distributor markup via Singapore, few Malaysian distributors deal directly with the manufacturers

The crazy thing is that Yamaha and Exposure are made in Malaysia and I have a Marantz CD player that was made in Johor Bahru, Singapore
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Good point about the distributor situation. One way around it is to buy from distributor that have presence in both SG and MY.

However there are instances whereby even users in SG find prices even cheaper in HK for example and it’s worth for them flying there and buying stuff back.
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QUOTE(chaos32 @ Jan 25 2019, 08:29 PM)
Good point about the distributor situation. One way around it is to buy from distributor that have presence in both SG and MY.

However there are instances whereby even users in SG find prices even cheaper in HK for example and it’s worth for them flying there and buying stuff back.
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How about tax? If go Singapore buy speaker and bring back Malaysia, will we get caught for tax? Any idea how much is the tax rate?
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Tax is payable, I think 10% duty + 6% SST
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 25 2019, 11:19 PM)
How about tax? If go Singapore buy speaker and bring back Malaysia, will we get caught for tax? Any idea how much is the tax rate?
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Some of the brands have the same dealer both in SG and MY and for those brands, sometimes arrangements can be made whereby the purchase is made in Singapore and they shipped it onto KL for you.

Of course, if you bring it back yourself, there is a possibility of taxation. Another consideration would be back up service and warranty and sometimes it pays to buy local especially high value items. smile.gif
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QUOTE(chaos32 @ Jan 26 2019, 11:10 PM)
Of course, if you bring it back yourself, there is a possibility of taxation. Another consideration would be back up service and warranty and sometimes it pays to buy local especially high value items.  smile.gif
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No way that customs won't notice a loudspeaker box.
Doing it properly does mean that you should be able to reclaim the Singapore GST
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Jan 27 2019, 03:43 PM)
No way that customs won't notice a loudspeaker box.
Doing it properly does mean that you should be able to reclaim the Singapore GST
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You can only claim GST back from Singapore if you fly. Driving through the causeway does not entitle you to GST refund.

https://www.visitsingapore.com/en_my/travel...gst-tax-refund/

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QUOTE(chaos32 @ Jan 27 2019, 04:53 PM)
You can only claim GST back from Singapore if you fly. Driving through the causeway does not entitle you to GST refund.

https://www.visitsingapore.com/en_my/travel...gst-tax-refund/
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That is a rip off.
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Jan 27 2019, 03:43 PM)
No way that customs won't notice a loudspeaker box.
Doing it properly does mean that you should be able to reclaim the Singapore GST
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Actually I'm interested on MISSION bookshelf speaker, LX-2+ which can dive deep to lower frequency, spec at 45Hz to 30kHz for +-3dB which seems great for bookshelf speaker. Saw Singapore there got selling SGD499, after convert should be RM15xx. But then the effort to go there purchase and taxing, if exceeding RM2k, is really too much for a "bookshelf speaker" imo. If nett price RM1.5k still can consider. Local MISSION seller doesn't carry this model I see.
Another choice I found would be some Dali Spektor 2, which can chunk out 54Hz,, selling about 1.3k locally.

Also considering used MISSION M32 which is about RM500. But then, I thought used speaker could be abused by previous owners, maybe tweeter not functioning as expected, crossover non accurate requiring reworks etc...
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Crossovers rarely break.
Tweeters and the woofer surrounds are things to check on used speakers.
I take a test cd or my laptop along when buying second hand and test with pink noise.
Look out for drivers replaced with another type. Do some research on what the speaker should look like.

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 1 2019, 09:51 AM)
Actually I'm interested on MISSION bookshelf speaker, LX-2+ which can dive deep to lower frequency, spec at 45Hz to 30kHz for +-3dB which seems great for bookshelf speaker. Saw Singapore there got selling SGD499, after convert should be RM15xx. But then the effort to go there purchase and taxing, if exceeding RM2k, is really too much for a "bookshelf speaker" imo. If nett price RM1.5k still can consider. Local MISSION seller doesn't carry this model I see.
Another choice I found would be some Dali Spektor 2, which can chunk out 54Hz,, selling about 1.3k locally.

Also considering used MISSION M32 which is about RM500. But then, I thought used speaker could be abused by previous owners, maybe tweeter not functioning as expected, crossover non accurate requiring reworks etc...
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Take the specs with a pinch of salt. There are other external factors that will influence the sound such as where the speakers are placed and room. Quality and control of bass is just as important as how low it goes. No point low bass but flabby and rumbly. smile.gif
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The only way a small speaker can go low is by sacrificing efficiency.
You will also find that the harmonic distortion at low frequencies gets really bad at higher levels.
Clean and strong deep bass requires big drivers.
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QUOTE(dayojah @ Feb 2 2019, 10:15 PM)
The only way a small speaker can go low is by sacrificing efficiency.
You will also find that the harmonic distortion at low frequencies gets really bad at higher levels.
Clean and strong deep bass requires big drivers.
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So I compromise by give up using Source Direct option, turn up Bass knob and walah, this is the bass I wanted.
I remember last time when audition speaker, we tested Denon entry AV receiver. The bass is slamming good, but vocal-mid is tiny. Onkyo Integrated Amplifier has nice vocal, but I feel the bass is not so hard, this is with same set of speaker also.

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bump...
Just saw on Mission website, got new appointed distributor listed in our country. I think same distributor for Onkyo product (I bought Onkyo amp with this company warranty card). Hopefully the pricing would be competitive aka cheap and more variant.

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Hihi, new baby in da house.

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Baby meets elder skinny brother.

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 18 2019, 10:21 AM)
Baby meets elder skinny brother.
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fromt & rear channel ah
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QUOTE(ktek @ May 18 2019, 09:26 PM)
fromt & rear channel ah
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Too bad no AV surround receiver, haha.

 

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