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post Apr 5 2015, 08:24 AM, updated 10y ago

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Been thinking to do an Archery Thread for sometime to gather people who share the same interests. might take me some time to gather all the info need to do a minor introduction to archery on the first page. hope this thread also help some parent to understand archery if their children would pick up this sport.

History of Archery
i will write this as we go along the way

Introduction to archery as sport
*safety notice: DRY FIRE; Dry fire is result from firing a blank, known as drawing the bow and release without an arrow, all the energy will transfer back to the bow and cause really heavy damage to the bow, may even result in 'exploding' bow that will have component flying out and may hurt the archer and people around them. Never NEVER ever fire(release) a bow with no arrow or using under-weighted arrow(refer to arrow building section)

i. Wooden Recurve Bow
Usually club will use this as standard in house bow and to be used in indoor clubs, its cheap, easy and low cost to maintain. very low poundage (bow power) to start with, so new comer can play for hours without hurting themselves. Their draw weight usually in between 12-18 poundage. Some people owns this bow for casual/recreational shooting at home party or parks games.
Many clubs also uses these wooden bow for beginners or nourish children as young as 10 year old before going for advance bow setup.

Investing in a Wooden Bow can range from 300myr up to 1000myr(for those icthy hand wanted to grab a good sights)

ii. Advance Recurve Bow
Some clubs offer Advance Recurve Bow for trying out, its a little heavier, stronger to pull.
When someone starting to get serious with Archery, Clubs will advise them to try on Advance Recurve. At this point, the Recurve Bow will be tuned to your body/style. This is where you will require lots of Disciplines and Consistency to be able to shoot great accuracy (grouping) up to 90 meters!(outoor field). This Advance Recurve will have a few more extra component then a beginner wooden bow to assist in longer distance accuracy and consistency. The draw weight can goes up to #40pound. There are extra component such as Clicker for more consistency, Plunger for arrow clearance, better and expensive Sights, Stabilizer(the long stick pointing out in front of the bow that make it looks like starwars X-wing fighter), better customizable finger tab, etc. When people advance to this stage, they tend to go for outdoor field for practice, if they can master 50/70 meter range, indoor 8-18meter is easy peasy for them.

Things to note in advance recurve bow
Arrows length are cut to precise draw length with point and nock inserted (seek club advice and service), this is required so your clicker may click and give you a consistency draw, since extra draw of 1 inch can make a differences of 2 extra poundage and making the arrow fly higher missing the 10 point target.

Investing in Advance Recurve Bow(complete) can range from 2,000myr up to 15,000myr
Famous brand are the Win&Win, and SF archery for bows, and Shibuya, and Doinker for accessories.
*Blue wordings are part/component that you can buy.

iii. Compound Bow (Target type, designed for Competition)
This is the weird looking bow with wheels and multiple strings sweat.gif joke aside, after a period of time, a number of Recurve archer eventually will want to go for a higher accuracy shooting result (higher points), they will tend to try on compound bow. Compound bow are very powerful and high in accuracy Archery, you could say a compound bow is a technologically featured bow. Usually bad shooting result from a person's body form then a compound bow problem. They are usually paired with really good 'Scope' with lens that 'zoom' into targets, much more advance 'Sights' with a lot of micro adjustment (tilt, yaw, rotate), 'Peep' for aiming assist, 'Kisser' for anchoring assist, 'Speed nocks' for string to speed up the arrow flights, a mechanical hand/thumb/strap 'Release', advance drop rest or blade rest, and many more. The special feature of a compound bow to Recurve is Let-off. Let-off will ease the draw weight eg. 75% off at full draw (when you hit the wall). meaning a #60 only feel like 15pound to hold at fulldraw. 75%(discount) off the weight. with little strength to hold the bow at full draw, the archer can concentrate on aiming on the target.

due to such advance in technology bow, which give such precise accuracy, many archer develop a sickness call 'Target Panic' which can be by either releasing the arrow too early or holding too long and panic until unable to release the arrow. usually these problem will be cure by using a special mechanical 'back tension' Release, which will 'surprise' you by releasing the arrow with slight pullback of your draw arm, which your body form slightly similar with shooting a recurve bow.

Compound bow can be rated up to 330fps (feet per sec) which means the arrow are traveling 100meter per sec, so it take less then 1 sec to reach a 90m target!!!
(for comparison, airgun, those uses pallets are also rated around 300+fps)

Customizing a Compound bow can be a big headache. you will require to check your draw-length (DL) accurately since buying a high Branded Compound bow have a short adjustable draw length, so you will require to buy the 'right' Cam(roller that stores the energy). usually eg, Hoyt Compound bow has Cam DL of Cam#1 25-27" DL, Cam#2 27-29"DL, Cam#3 29-31"DL, buying a wrong DL Cam can cost a lot money to change a correct Cam.
and Draw Weight (poundage) limb can be slightly more fix of #10 increment, #30-40, #40-50, #50-60, #60-70, so getting the right poundage for your draw weight is important as some people get injured from pulling a heavier poundage then they can handle.

Investing in a Compound Bow can range from 2,000myr up to 20,000myr
Famous brands are the Hoyt(expensive, consider the most advance in compound archery industry), Matthew, PSE(budget/hunting series) for bows
Axcel(expensive) surelock(budget) sight and scope, QAD drop Rest, or simple Trophy Taker Rest, and many more.
*Blue wordings are part/component that you can buy.

iv. Youth Compound Bow or Beginner Compound Bow (Multi Adjustable Bow)
Youth Compound Bow are also known as growing up bow. as a young teenager, their body will outgrowth many thing, longer, bigger, taller, stronger... so draw length of the bow will keep on changing, and they can pull heavier draw weight.... so these bow, are design with a wide adjustment, having drawlength(eg, Hoyt Ignite) ranging from 19-30", poundage adjustment from #15 to #70... which sound better then the compound bow mentioned above. the only downside is its not as forgiving in fine tuning for accuracy. and its fairly cheap too, you can get one ready to shoot(with arrows and release complete set) for under 2,000 myr. another famous beginner Compound is the Diamond Edge.

word of advise, there are many cheap china alternative/copycat... but i never ever recommend them. because the power releases from a 50/60 pound bow is very destructive!, and untrusted bow can "explodes" and cause injury to the archer and everyone around him/her. i first hand saw a bow exploded in front of me, luckily i walk away from the shooter after helping him to sight(bino) his accuracy/point, the CAM flew 10 meters away, limb broke into 7/8 pieces, the riser has crack all over the riser/limb bolt, the arrow broke into 3 piece. it was a branded bow but with manufacturing defect (he warranty a new set). imagine those untrusted China Copycats. Archery is actually a very Dangerous sport, it requires very high discipline and respect, please only use trusted brand.

v. Traditional Bow
(more info required)
There are several type of traditional bow, from the Chinese (China) bow to Mongolian Bow/Archery (also known as horse riding archery) to Korean Bow, and Japanese Kyudo.

Investing in a Traditional Bow can range from 300myr up to 10,000myr(kyudo)

Kyudo (Japan's Art of Archery)
There is a group of people are practicing Kyudo. its a very special spiritual and tranquility archery practice. for more information 'Lim Eng Chuan' from Facebook

(cerdit to chriscym for the following kyudo information)

"Kyudo can be separated into modern and traditional Kyudo, however both are represented in the International Kyudo Federation under a unified form.

1) Traditional Kyudo
There are few notable Traditional Kyudo which still in existance today. Namely Heki Ryu, Ogasawara Ryu & Honda Ryu.

Shamen Style (Heki Ryu)
- Heki ryu was the official school for Tokugawa Shogunate in terms of shooting that was founded by a famous Samurai called Heki Danjo Masatsugu during the 15th century
- Heki Ryu focus on the practical shooting that were technique used in Battlefield
- Became the standard Archery technique used by Samurai warriors in the battlefield
- Uniqueness of Heki ryu comes from the shamen style which the kyudoka position the bow in the front position in a ready to shoot stance

Shamen (Honda Ryu & Ogasawara)
- Originally from horse back archery technique. 2 popular styles of Shomen type of Kyudo are namely Ogasawara & Honda Ryu

2) Modern Kyudo
- Modern Kyudo combined elements of Ogasawara and Honda Ryu in their ceremony and grading standards.
- Elements of battle field emphasis were not part of the syllabus, but focus on the graceful movements, philosophy and form of Kyudo
- Majority of modern kyudo which shoot 28m target only.

3) Koshiya Kumiyumi (Battlefield Archery)
Note : this wasn't really part of Kyudo, but this is covered as part of Traditional Heki Ryu syllabus and Satsuma Heki Ryu
Divided into 2 sections of the shooting sequences. First part is called "Kazuya" which to target long distance enemy, archers begin shoot light arrows quickly in half kneeling position.
Second part is called "Yo-Mae" which shoots heavier arrow, assuming the enemy is close to you.
This demonstration was established based on battle field shooting training. It used to be done separately, but re-organized about 200years ago for demonstration with Japanese armour."

Malaysia Kyudo Network FB
Malaysia-Kyudo-Association FB

Bow alternate as Hunting
**it is Illegal to Hunt in Malaysia, but still, some small group of people practice in some part of Malaysia. Malaysia Custom will confiscate any hunting component if found in shipping. I do not encourage people to do it, but for many reason people has to do it, since for the good reason, i wish to share proper ways of hunting with safety and respect.

there are many reason to hunt, some hunt for food(only adult animals), some hunt for security, some hunt for pest control, some hunts in Farms designed for hunting. Some animal are a pest to farmer(rabbits, wild wolves/dogs), destroying their harvest, crops or eat up their animals, hence people will want to kill off the pest... they can either Poison the animal, or hunt with a Gun, or with a Bow... Poison will be dangerous to use, it may contaminated the water source, other animal and come back to you. But why would anyone wanted to hunt with a bow then using a Gun which is easy and simple?... well... its because Bow are Silent. Fire a gun, every little to huge animal within 300m radius will be frighten, run away and hide. Hunt with a bow can be continue to next target within the same period of time. One after another.

IMHO, Compound Hunting bow, has far more advance then Target (competition) Compound Bow. Its because Hunting Bow are design to be Very Quiet, Very little to non Vibration. Easier to draw, and more letoff for holding and waiting for the animal to stop long enough for your aim and release. They Vibrate so little that its so nice to shoot over and over again, that in rare cases, there are a small number of Archer actually uses Hunting Bow to join Target Competition.

CrossBow
sadly to say, due to the design, having a 'trigger' on the body is considered as 'firearm weapon'(eg Gun) and it is illegal to carry or own a crossbow in malaysia. there is no license to be release to own a crossbow (although i seen once, during a opening ceremony of a archery competition, they fire a crossbow for the opening)

Arrows
there're several type of arrow,
i. Wooden Arrows made from certain wood or bamboo are generally cheap and less durable but very forgiving. safe for lower poundage uses, often used with traditional archery
ii. Aluminium Arrows, cheap, repairable, mostly for children and beginner uses. effective only for short distance and low poundage. heavy poundage tend to bend the arrow a lot, hence requires straightening often with roller tool.
iii. Fiber Glass Arrows (they are not carbon fiber) arrows, relatively cheap, durable (depend on 'level'). most club/shop uses china fiber glass arrow with their inhouse bow, as its cheap and durable. (im not sure if there is any branded company still makes them... im pretty sure most has switched to carbon fiber)
iv. Carbon Fibre Arrows, well... no need to explain, expensive and durable. can take a lot of beating.

Fusion/Dual Spine Arrows, (mixture of two 'layer' spine) from the 2 leading brand for Target Competition***.
Easton (USA) is famous for their X10(means X - 10 points), dual spine of aluminium and carbon fiber... they are very very high in accuracy due to their forgivingness... used by many world class archery champion, hence the steep pricing... many professional archer and coaches swear by them.
(but, IMHO, they have terrible durability. It is good enough for couple of competition, then time to throw or use it as practice/training arrow. this is all due to the aluminium core that once it's bent, there is no way to repair it, hence the arrow become less consistent. World Champion Archer are usually sponsored, so they have no worries of durability as they get new arrows all the time sweat.gif )
Carbon Express ('CX', Korean), are using dual carbon fiber spine (for most of their arrows) and slightly cheaper then Easton, but very durable, they top arrow, the CX Nano XR/Pro are now getting a lot recognition.
(my own opinion and experience, CX can take a lot more beating then easton and still shoot fairly straight and groups tight in 90m)

if were to ask me which are better, i will not comment as both are really good competition arrow backed by professional. pick the one that suit you or recommended by your coach, because your couch may have better experience tuning the arrow for you.

Both Easton X10 and CX Nano Pro, a complete build up arrow and tune can cost up to 2000myr (or more) for a dozen*4.

As for more budget concern users, or for new comers who might always miss their arrows, for practice, you can buy cheaper alternate arrows but always make sure it's Spine is 'harder' then your poundage for safety reason. i've seen accidents, arrow breaks aparts in mid flights, partial dry fires and carbon arrow breaks from releasing.


***, Target Competition for a Full Circuit can range up to 90M in an outdoor, competition will still continue under huge wind and rain except Thunder Storm.
*4, Arrows are usually sold by the dozen.

Competition
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Notice how when comes to bow setting, i often mention coach, Archery tuning requires a lot expertise and experience and Coaches are usually exposed to archery more then anyone else. Like i said before, Archery requires Discipline and Respect. I hold high Respect for all the Archery Coaches as they are also the people who keep archery spirit alive.

This post has been edited by ieR: May 28 2015, 11:17 AM
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Archery Clubs/Range/Shops in Malaysia (please help me fill them up)
some school/university has Archery club for their student. try check out with your school if they have any. most school club equipment are sponsored by MSSM (Majlis Sukan Sekolah Malaysia) so u can use them under the school premise.

Central, Northen, and Southern Region of Malaysia




Penang

Kyudo Styles : Shomen Ogasawara Ryu
contact : Lim Eng Chuan (016-4896705)
Stars Archery - Times Square
017 2681447 - https://www.facebook.com/StarsArcheryMalaysia

Kuala Lumpur

Kyudo Styles : Heki Ryu Insai Ha & Shomen
contact : Chris Chiang (016-2026486)
Kelab Memanah Kajang
016 6820623 - https://www.facebook.com/ArcheryKajang

L.A. Sports - Kepong
03 62771497 - http://www.lasports.com.my/


Melacca
Excella Archery - Melaka
excella.archery@gmail.com - https://www.facebook.com/myexcella

East Region (Sabah and Sarawak)

King Archery Sport Centre - Miri
085-419 500 - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Archer...re-Merdeka-Mall

Stars Archery - Kuching
0362759858

Frontier Archery (Shop+ 6-17m Range) - Kuching
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Frontier-Arc...6885896?fref=ts

Petra Archery (Club & Community) -Kuching
https://www.facebook.com/PETRArchery?fref=ts

KIAA (Kuching Indoor Archery Academy) Range 18-90m - Kuching




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Arrow Building

Arrow building can be tedious for some people, and it could be fun for some people. Arrows are sold in separated component, Shaft, Point, Nock and Vanes. Although most shaft comes with Nock (for cutting purpose requires a nock), but some shop offer arrow building service or complete set arrow, they will cost more.

the weight system for arrow are calculate in grains (of rice). dont ask why, ask the stupid american's imperial system. sweat.gif

i. You will required to find the appropriate spine (arrow strength) for your Bow Poundage (#)
so you will required to 'check' your actual poundage with a reader, usually clubs has one to use, then you have to check with the arrow brand's chart for the right spine amount. Recurve and Compound has slight different Spine Chart. always seek Club/Coach for advise.
Using Softer spine will result in too much flexing causing drop in accuracy, or may break upon release causing danger to archer and people around them, Softer spine is also known to be 'lighter' in weight that may cause 'Partial Dry Fire'** which will damage the bow.
Using Harder Spine (i notice some coach usually advise harder spine arrow) will only CoverUp flaws in their form and bow, and it will be big disadvantage for lighter poundage user and the arrow flight becomes slower and requires a higher (lowered) sighting and cause a big 'Arc' in arrow flight giving less accuracy disadvantages which influence by weather/wind.

ii. Prepare(buy) the right Points Head with the right weight, stardard are 100grains but in special cases, heavy shaft like CXnanopro400 will require heavier 125grains point to counter balance the Field.Of.Center of the arrow(tuning purpose). Or some of you might prefer Pin nocks, prepare the right pin adapter and pin nocks, Prepare(buy) the Vanes (or Feather) with color of your choice as each color theme is for your to distinguish your arrow from other's arrow, prepare your Jig(Fletching tool)

iii. Then you will required to find out your effective Draw Length(DL)
for compound archer, it is alright to leave 1 or 2 extra inch then designated DL, as many 'hunter' practice this, because broad-head required clearance from the bow riser(body)
as for recurve, a precise measurement is needed for the precise arrow cutting length, with clicker, it helps to have more consistent draw and release.
with the nocks nocked on the shaft, cut the arrow to length with a shaft cutter (usually we seek clubs service, or have them prep-cut upon ordering)

Shaft: cleaning of arrow shaft with hot water 80-90c. not boiling hot. or if you can find, alcohol (or ace-tone) are good cleaner but watch out as it may/will remove the vinyl(branding sticker)/sleeve from the arrow shaft. Stick the shaft sleeve sticker if required to.

Nock: insert your nocks or pin adapter(and pin nock) into the rear of the arrow, it is required for fletching the vanes. for pin adapter, i would recommend the uses of hotglue to strengthen the hold of the pin adapter to the arrow.

Vanes(plastic/feather): with the fletching tool/Jig, place the the arrow on the jig and the vanes on the fletching clamp, follow the instruction sheet. some people recommend diff type of brand of fletching 'glue', i personally prefer 'bohning gel glue' as it is 'fast' dry, but long enough to do adjustment if mistake is made. some other glue may take 1-10minute for each to dry before u can remove the fletching clamp, the reason why some people hate doing fletching, coz it may take a whole night just to do 12 arrows.

Point: depending on using glue-in point or point sleeve (screw in point), using hotglue, melt some over the point glue/insert area, then put it into the front of the shaft (watch out for the hot glue) and push the point in by pushing the arrow to the floor or book on the table. let it cool off.

after a Day of (fletching)glue curing, your arrows are ready to shoot~


Pin Nocks vs Over Nocks vs Insert Nocks

Plastic Vance Vs Kurly Vanes Vs Feathers



*Before and After each Archery session, practice a habit of checking your arrows for damage. For Carbon Fiber Arrows, do a light twist and flex to check. If the arrow show cracked sound, please dispose of the arrow and prevent from using it anymore. Unsafe practice of using damaged Arrow will cause danger to the user and people around them.

**Partial Dry Fire is similar with a Dry Fire. It transfers not all, but partial of its energy back to the bow and damaging it too. Long term of doing this will damage the bow enough to explode it when the time comes. Please Practice all safety

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post Apr 5 2015, 08:25 AM

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List of Archery in LYN

Casual Club Shooter (woodenbow)
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2.
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Advance Recurve Bow
1. kelvinling (retired) - W&W
2. alpharico
3.

Compound Bow
1. ieR - Hoyt Spyder 34 DL29, 55#.
2. keyser soze (retired)
3. fluxcapacitor
4. xpittcha
5. babyrabies

Traditional/Long Bow Archer/Instinctive Archer (traditional bow or bow without sight)
1. fluxcapacitor (Long Bow)
2. babyrabies
3. syarif
4.

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post Apr 5 2015, 10:04 PM

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Retired Advanced Recurve Bow archer here. My W&W have been left in the case for years already. Was using the W&W Exfeel riser biggrin.gif
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should i need a permit/license to won a bow?

did customs malaysia block the bow buy from ebay?
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post Apr 25 2015, 04:32 AM

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QUOTE(leonstk @ Apr 23 2015, 02:05 PM)
should i need a permit/license to won a bow?

did customs malaysia block the bow buy from ebay?
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there aren't exact a "license" to have a bow, but usually people who join a clubhouse to have an ID tag, so its easily to show you belong to a club and own a bow for recreation sport when stopped by a police. (correct me if im wrong)

custom malaysia will not block a bow from oversea. but they will stop/confiscate 'broadheads' (hunting/blade arrow head). previously, all bows are declare as sport equipment and will be non dutiable (non taxable) item. but now, GST is applied so u will have to pay for the 6% GST.
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new compound shooter here
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post Apr 29 2015, 03:50 PM

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Good to know there is a forum on this sport.

I like archery, but its a bit pricy for me to keep at it.
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i wonder where you people shoot at?

indoor?

or jungle?
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Indoor for me. No experience in hunting
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post May 4 2015, 07:27 PM

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hi, own a recurve bow here. never had any chance to play yet as not yet join any class nor club. anyone practise ocassionally?.
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QUOTE(wordtalks @ May 1 2015, 08:47 AM)
i wonder where you people shoot at?

indoor?

or jungle?
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compound in jungle, longbow as backup
indoor longbow.
Absolutely not a target shooter.. too boring.

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QUOTE(babyrabies @ May 7 2015, 08:14 PM)
compound in jungle, longbow as backup
indoor longbow.
Absolutely not a target shooter.. too boring.
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you that assume you went to jungle alot?

what do you shoot at while in indoor?

Being target and animals, what else you shoot?
its boring always doing the same thing nod.gif
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QUOTE(tboxmy @ Apr 29 2015, 03:50 PM)
Good to know there is a forum on this sport.

I like archery, but its a bit pricy for me to keep at it.
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archery is a expensive sport/hobby, yes, i agree, but compare to any other sport, archery doesnt has high maintenance. compare to golf (maybe a little too high class) or badminton that require a new shoe every year, and amount of shutter cork and a good racket can cost as much as a single bare bow! or cycling with a bare bike enough to buy 2 bare bow~

archery is a very low maintenance sport, aside from if you always lost your arrows (they are pricey too), other then that, you only spend around 300 every 2 years to change a new string+retune(compound).

looking at the bright side of target archery, with compound 50meter range, you walk as much as 2km a day of 3-4 hours shooting, its a good exercise too thumbup.gif
and good form actually gives you a good chest shape too rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(wordtalks @ May 1 2015, 08:47 AM)
i wonder where you people shoot at?

indoor?

or jungle?
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there is no exactly where do we shoot, but we always practice safety first, so we dont shoot to direction with 'people' sweat.gif ..... so do not practice behind your house facing your neighbor!!!! always have a safety/arrow stopper net.

i've done shooting on the seashore, very exciting due to heavy wind, can practice and learn how to counter wind experience,
friend's sawit farm, close to like a jungle, but losing arrow is Not fun. and fear of meeting snake...
in my own workshop (vehicle workshop) (15 meter distance only)
indoor and outdoor field.

QUOTE(alpharico @ May 4 2015, 07:27 PM)
hi, own a recurve bow here. never had any chance to play yet as not yet join any class nor club. anyone practise ocassionally?.
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i assume is advance recurve bow? im not sure of your area, but i guess most indoor center allows archer to use their own equipment and arrows to practice. and recurve archery requires consistence practise~ if not will lose out their forms.


btw guys (and girls) feel free to post photos, of your bow, your form or in action photo, or the competition you joined...
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Any place near damansara to pick up archery?

Sunway a bit far.
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Hey any advice for students looking to get into archery?
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If you are a college student, I suggest compound. Compound doesn't need a lot of practice and commitment. But u still need to know the basic of archery.


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QUOTE(wordtalks @ May 7 2015, 09:09 PM)
you that assume you went to jungle alot?

what do you shoot at while in indoor?

Being target and animals, what else you shoot?
its boring always doing the same thing nod.gif
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Boars or target only, i wouldnt kill any animals i dont eat.
target is just to keep my form for a wild hunt.
normally shoot in my house, cleared an area about 20 yard length.
I dread shooting in an outdoor olympic style range for i had unpleasent
experience with snobbish elitist target shooters. Shooting traditional, I cant my bow
and i dont do stabilisers and all that nonsense. Compound is a different story
U'll need all the help from the bow to get a clean kill, nightfalls.
Im a hunter and an outdoor adventurer at heart, the bow is just a tool.

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Nice topic you started. Kyudo anyone?
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QUOTE(chriscym @ May 25 2015, 11:50 AM)
Nice topic you started. Kyudo anyone?
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hi, are you practicing kyudo?
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hi, are you practicing kyudo?
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Hey ieR, yeah we started 1 1/2 year ago in Malaysia. We have 2 clubs 1 in KL and another 1 in Penang. You practised kyudo before or looking for a club?
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Hey ieR, yeah we started 1 1/2 year ago in Malaysia. We have 2 clubs 1 in KL and another 1 in Penang. You practised kyudo before or looking for a club?
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hi, if possible, would you mind leaving some contact infomation here, so other who might be interested can try to check it out?

i have interest in kyudo about 3 year back before i brought my compound. Almost brought a yumi when i was in japan 3 years back sweat.gif it was really cheap there, around 25,000yen or 10,000++-- for 2nd hand... but end up spending on a set of kimono hmm.gif .
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hi, if possible, would you mind leaving some contact infomation here, so other who might be interested can try to check it out?

i have interest in kyudo about 3 year back before i brought my compound. Almost brought a yumi when i was in japan 3 years back  sweat.gif it was really cheap there, around 25,000yen or 10,000++-- for 2nd hand... but end up spending on a set of kimono hmm.gif .
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Hi ieR,

I guess you keep in touch with Lim Eng Chuan? He is our member from penang and current president of Kyudo Association.

Please join our Facebook Malaysia Kyudo Network (https://www.facebook.com/groups/malaysiakyudonetwork/) & Malaysia Kyudo Association (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Malaysia-Kyudo-Association/422193884547725?flyingspaghettimonster=bookmarks), you can contact us from there. Usually people contact us from this 2 medium through FB

The used Yumi is actually a good idea... get the brand like Jikishin if you found a used with good price (RM300-RM600 I consider very good price). Let us know for recommendation, we can give some advice which one is best bang for the buck.

Any chance you are in KL/Penang? you are welcome to join our training
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QUOTE(chriscym @ May 27 2015, 10:27 AM)
Hi ieR,

I guess you keep in touch with Lim Eng Chuan? He is our member from penang and current president of Kyudo Association.

Please join our Facebook Malaysia Kyudo Network (https://www.facebook.com/groups/malaysiakyudonetwork/) & Malaysia Kyudo Association (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Malaysia-Kyudo-Association/422193884547725?flyingspaghettimonster=bookmarks), you can contact us from there. Usually people contact us from this 2 medium through FB

The used Yumi is actually a good idea... get the brand like Jikishin if you found a used with good price (RM300-RM600 I consider very good price). Let us know for recommendation, we can give some advice which one is best bang for the buck.

Any chance you are in KL/Penang? you are welcome to join our training
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ahh thanks for the extra info, btw any idea how much would a hakama cost in malaysia?
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ahh thanks for the extra info, btw any idea how much would a hakama cost in malaysia?
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Hi ieR,

refer to Asahi, usually we purchase from there as they have give 10% discount on all items. http://www.asahi-archery.co.jp/kyudo_en_jp/k_5/items_en2.php

Plus shipping cheapest is around RM200-250 after conversion. Polyester hakama is recomended for easy maintenance
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Guys,

Finally an archery discussion but it seems that archery is not a very popular sports in Malaysia cry.gif

Anyway, I have an old Matthew LX (draw weight: 60lbs) with Sure-Loc Challenger sight and Eastern Stabilizer but its been collecting dust in my house since the Archery shop in Summit closed down.

I doubt i have the strength the draw the bow anymore.

I was wondering if i should let go of the entire set or get back to the hobby. how much do you guys think this set is worth if i sell it off?

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jun 4 2015, 12:01 PM)
Guys,

Finally an archery discussion but it seems that archery is not a very popular sports in Malaysia  cry.gif

Anyway, I have an old Matthew LX (draw weight: 60lbs) with Sure-Loc Challenger sight and Eastern Stabilizer but its been collecting dust in my house since the Archery shop in Summit closed down.

I doubt i have the strength the draw the bow anymore.

I was wondering if i should let go of the entire set or get back to the hobby. how much do you guys think this set is worth if i sell it off?
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thats the good thing about not popular sport in malaysia, noone knows your bow value so u still can sell it high sweat.gif

is your bow 60-70 or 50-60?

usually ppl break down component to sell, unless quitting then they let go everything as a whole sweet package deal.
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QUOTE(ieR @ Jun 4 2015, 12:10 PM)
thats the good thing about not popular sport in malaysia, noone knows your bow value so u still can sell it high  sweat.gif

is your bow 60-70 or 50-60?

usually ppl break down component to sell, unless quitting then they let go everything as a whole sweet package deal.
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i cant really recall if its 60-70 or 50-60..Will check later.

if i want to send my bow for servicing, where should i go?

i am also looking for a simple release... any recommendation?
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i cant really recall if its 60-70 or 50-60..Will check later.

if i want to send my bow for servicing, where should i go?

i am also looking for a simple release... any recommendation?
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i m from kl ....puchong area
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Hi Guys,

I want to sell my Try Ball Four Finger Thumb Release. Bought it last year end and it still function well.
Reason of selling is because I upgraded to back tension release.

Thank you.

SOLD

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Adjustable thumb pressure and sensitivity of the release

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QUOTE(vson @ Jun 18 2015, 03:14 PM)
Hi Guys,

I want to sell my Try Ball Four Finger Thumb Release. Bought it last year end and it still function well.
Reason of selling is because I upgraded to back tension release.

Thank you.

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Cosmetic : little color off on middle finger (as shown in pic)
Mechanism : 100% good condition
Adjustable thumb position to your preference
Adjustable release head in 360 degree to reduce torque on string
Adjustable thumb pressure and sensitivity of the release
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wow nice torque-less release! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif good buy for those who are interested.
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im new to archery
my Uni club is trying to get a new Target butt(since the old one already split in half)
do you guys know where to buy new one?
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i think LA archer sells them, assuming u are from KL,
Tel:603-6277 1497
Fax:603-6277 1498
E-mail: info@lasports.com.my

else u can directly find malaysia dealer, UFL sport equipment. (let me dig out their email then PM you)
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Hi all, I started archery 6 months ago.. First I bought a Diamond 50# compound bow, shot it for a month or two. Then I got sucked into traditional archery by the "Lars" video.. Didn't want to spend unnecessary money again, I got into making bows with PVC watching Backyardbowyer in YouTube. Shot those till im familiar with what I truly want.

In the end, I made up my mind to buy a modern Korean horsebow( 50# Windfighter)
. Its a compact, lightweight, smooth drawing and beautiful bow.

Actually there's a lot of ppl doing archery in Malaysia.. They just dont read and post in the forum!!


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QUOTE(summerav4 @ Jul 21 2015, 01:40 PM)
Hi all, I started archery 6 months ago.. First I bought a Diamond 50# compound bow, shot it for a month or two. Then I got sucked into traditional archery by the "Lars" video.. Didn't want to spend unnecessary money again, I got into making bows with PVC watching Backyardbowyer in YouTube. Shot those till im familiar with what I truly want.

In the end, I made up my mind to buy a modern Korean horsebow( 50# Windfighter)
. Its a compact, lightweight, smooth drawing and beautiful bow.

Actually there's a lot of ppl doing archery in Malaysia.. They just dont read and post in the forum!!
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hi Summer, yea.... i understand that feel......

i never practice any recurve bow, and one time this archery club owner pulled me in and join their novice wooden bow competition (im just a gap filler), end up winning the first price wooden bow shocking.gif even agaisnt many of the participant who practice advance recurve...... and i have been shooting the new wooden bow instinctively (no rest, no scope, with existing large profile arrows that doesnt fit any rest anyway) ever since sweat.gif pity my compound inside the bow case....

those people who started with woodenbow to advance recurves always craves for precision... end up with high tech with full accessories compound... then for some of us who started with hi-tech precision compound end up with the most traditional instinctive bow doh.gif
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Traditional bow user here..
Looing for a cheap carbon or bamboo arrow.
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Traditional bow...Gao Ying style chinese archery
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Hi, uni student here.. wanted to ask where to get recurve bow new/secondhand below 2k... Currently using wooden bow, wanted to step up but uni is not giving fund for recurve.. SO ended up having to buy my own... Any deals/ promotion info is much appreciated.. hahah (or any best bang for buck suggestion)
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im looking for 2nd recurve alao..for my anak buah..13yrs old..whole set if can..
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Hello all smile.gif

I decided to start archery after a relative of mine gave me a bow, I have no clue about any details except it has two wheel thingies on both ends where the string goes, I think it's called a compound bow? laugh.gif

How can I start archery? I'm from pj area, would be much appreciated if someone could give some pointers to someone who knows zero about the sport (except those rpg game laugh.gif )
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QUOTE(noloveishere @ Feb 11 2016, 02:42 PM)
Hello all smile.gif

I decided to start archery after a relative of mine gave me a bow, I have no clue about any details except it has two wheel thingies on both ends where the string goes, I think it's called a compound bow?  laugh.gif

How can I start archery? I'm from pj area, would be much appreciated if someone could give some pointers to someone who knows zero about the sport (except those rpg game  laugh.gif )
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http://archery.com.my/2015-10/html/contact2.htm

Contact the guy above see if he still do coaching. Their club at around old klang road.
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http://archery.com.my/2015-10/html/contact2.htm

Contact the guy above see if he still do coaching. Their club at around old klang road.
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Thanks for the reply man! smile.gif
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Hello!

Olympic Recurve and Compound Archer here! Recurve indoor target and outdoor target both summer and winter. cool2.gif

Compound only indoor target.

Currently in northern hemisphere, not staying in KL at the moment. Only around during summer. biggrin.gif
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Hi all,

Any active archers in here?

Planning to get myself a bow.

Looking for a community for weekend outings perhaps?

Thanks in advance!
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Hi All,

We would like to invite you to our public Kyudo demonstration by our high ranking Instructor from Japan at the following details.

Date : Sunday, 11th Sept 2016
Time : 2:10pm
Venue : Michael's Badminton Academy (map : Michael's Badminton Academy & Sports Sdn Bhd

https://goo.gl/maps/mNUQnvJ1FZx

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Hi All,

We would like to invite you to our public Kyudo demonstration by our high ranking Instructor from Japan at the following details.

Date : Sunday, 11th Sept 2016
Time : 2:10pm
Venue : Michael's Badminton Academy (map : Michael's Badminton Academy & Sports Sdn Bhd

https://goo.gl/maps/mNUQnvJ1FZx
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nice... i hope those interested be sure to attend this event, its a rare event.
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Hi everyone, I'm looking for an archery shooting range that comes with equipment rental, may I know where can I find such place in Shah Alam/Subang or any nearby area? Thanks!

I used to be a recurve archer 3 years ago and plan to play this sport again. smile.gif

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any open shooting range in kajang/bangi/seri kembangan area...? or ulu klang too...
shooting recurve here

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any open shooting range in kajang/bangi/seri kembangan area...? or ulu klang too...
shooting recurve here
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You can try go to SMAPK, Kajang...there is open range there handle by Malaya Archery...im also shoot there...you can shoot up until 90 meter...
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any open shooting range in kajang/bangi/seri kembangan area...? or ulu klang too...
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You can try go to SMAPK, Kajang...there is open range there handle by Malaya Archery...im also shoot there...you can shoot up until 90 meter...


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Hi everyone,

just wondering, is it okay to practice archery outdoor at park area? or is there some rules when doing archery outdoor?
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Any horsebow archers/traditional archers/mounted archers in here?

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Hi everyone,

just wondering, is it okay to practice archery outdoor at park area? or is there some rules when doing archery outdoor?
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Was wondering the same.

Probably just have a place where target can be setup and nobody who will pass by. I havent tried that.

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There is an indoor centre, Stars Archery in Sunway Pyramid.
https://www.starsarchery.com

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Archery Clubs/Range/Shops in Malaysia (please help me fill them up)
some school/university has Archery club for their student. try check out with your school if they have any. most school club equipment are sponsored by MSSM (Majlis Sukan Sekolah Malaysia) so u can use them under the school premise.

Central, Northen, and Southern Region of Malaysia
Penang

Kyudo Styles : Shomen Ogasawara Ryu
contact : Lim Eng Chuan (016-4896705)
Stars Archery - Times Square
017 2681447 - https://www.facebook.com/StarsArcheryMalaysia

Kuala Lumpur

Kyudo Styles : Heki Ryu Insai Ha & Shomen
contact : Chris Chiang (016-2026486)
Kelab Memanah Kajang
016 6820623 - https://www.facebook.com/ArcheryKajang

L.A. Sports - Kepong
03 62771497 - http://www.lasports.com.my/
Melacca
Excella Archery - Melaka
excella.archery@gmail.com - https://www.facebook.com/myexcella

East Region (Sabah and Sarawak)

King Archery Sport Centre - Miri
085-419 500 - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Archer...re-Merdeka-Mall

Stars Archery - Kuching
0362759858

Frontier Archery (Shop+ 6-17m Range) - Kuching
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Frontier-Arc...6885896?fref=ts

Petra Archery (Club & Community) -Kuching
https://www.facebook.com/PETRArchery?fref=ts

KIAA (Kuching Indoor Archery Academy) Range 18-90m - Kuching
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