The trading forums are provided for our members' convenience. There are no plans to remove or separate them.

Standardization takes away some freedom from the traders. Contrary to what goldfries said about the community not having the intelligence to follow standards, it actually requires less intelligence to follow them. They'd just be following prepared standards, whilst otherwise they'd have to exercise creative judgement when performing something.

For the proposals you made, I would say most of them should be guidelines, not enforced standards - because they are quite inflexible.

We need picture or video which shows the item in working condition. - Countless items will suffer from this. How do you show a video of RAM or headphones working, or items which are brand new?

Standard packing procedure which need to be followed. Seller to bare with the packing cost. - I suppose a minimum packing requirement would be a good idea for buyer protection. How often does packing problems been raised in TZDC though?

Standard freight procedure, charges, forwarding company, DHL, Fedex or any other more reliable one for fragile item. Buyer to bare the shipping cost. Tracking (if available) MUST be sent to buyer. - no comments.

Standardised personal warranty, since it very vague now. - I propose a hybrid solution - we can write out a standard "Personal Warranty", or allow people to continue using their own "personal warranty".

Standard return/refund policy. You don't return an item just because u don't like it. Money to be returned 7 days after item was received. - OK.

Standard sending policy, e.g. item must be send within 7 days after the sales is agreed. Buyer to bank in money within 7 days after sales is sealed. - OK.

Things like CDs, movies has no warranty despite any caused, unless of course it's not readable. This is because most of the ppl will definitely abuse the warranty. Copy the media and return for watever reason they can come up with. - Up to the seller.

Verification of seller and buyer, IC + current bill as proof, company registration (for company seller) - This won't make it to be a guideline due to privacy reasons. Companies are also not allowed to trade here.

digilife, I'll be frank with you. Your ideas suck because they put the traders' interests first, and LYN's next. Not only that, I don't see you defending your ideas when people (who happen to be some of our oldest members) argue against them.

Freedom of speech isn't absolute. Here in LYN, your right to free speech ends where it starts directly offending people. In the case of this thread, it's where you made unprovoked personal attacks at goldfries.


I'll leave this thread open, as a window-dressing so that digilife can't complain that we're some bunch of nazis closing his thread. But I do recommend to the other mods around not to participate in it anymore. It's clearly going nowhere.

goldfries, can you split the topic and move Infinity and empire's and maybe some other posts out. They're worth keeping for proper discussion.