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Model Kits Tamiya Mini 4WD V2, Closed for v3

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mazdaspeed
post Nov 28 2006, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Nov 28 2006, 12:12 PM)
too bad no chance to race with u it should be fun
i just started at 1995 cos just started work got money to play la
u so good your father so support u to play
i have to earn n play myself u know la buying ticket at rm3 per try really kills u
there are plans for championship next year but still working out on the rules n stuff
since u always come to tu n lepak play car la let the new guys here see what is a real champion made of
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hehehe. surely fun lar lar. that time every weekend also got race. damn a lot of ppl also. i remembered those days even primary and secondary school got clubs so there are even races held at schools. hopefully u guys can kick start it again.

started off on my own lar. during that time its every kids dream to own a mini 4wd. the craze was crazy man. have to persuade my parents to buy a car for me and then save up for option parts. its only when i started playing competitively then my parents started to support me and my dad join along.

nowadays std so high already lar. champion 10 yrs ago doesnt mean can compete now lar. the ppl continue to improve while i stop playing lar. can start championship what. either u wanna use points like formula one or like last time got one big race each month. if u win u get to hold the challenge throphy for one month and who wins the most in the year gets to keep the throphy.
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post Nov 28 2006, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(M@r0R! @ Nov 28 2006, 04:07 PM)
if 3 years ago then u'll see it laugh.gif
i got a samurai car b4...put ultra dash already damn fast....too bad that time i dunno how to make my own motor sweat.gif
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one fast motor find uncle lye lar. he is champion for open car leh
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post Nov 28 2006, 06:00 PM

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maybe u all can start discussing how to make the car faster and more stable rather than talking kok. heheheh. one does not need bearing rollers and expensive hop up to win. mini 4wd cars can be set/tune although there is always an element of luck. there is some physics to mini 4wd. i have seen those uncle cars and i can tell u guys they can be beaten. better buy belanja david so that he can teach u his tricks.

one tip is to see how the car jumps. see where you land and how u land to determine how to alter the car's setting to adapt to the track. always take a peek at the fastest car to see where he goes right and try to improve on it. if he is currently the fastest for the track he must be doing something right. there is no such thing as one setup. i used to race week in week out and never have an identical setup for my cars before. if your budget allow have more than one car to tryout the track. see which setup is the fastest for the track and try to improve on that car. have more than one type of chassis. most important is keep thinking on new ways of setting the cars.

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post Nov 28 2006, 06:42 PM

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wow,this thread back online liao...miss it....
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post Nov 28 2006, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(mazdaspeed @ Nov 28 2006, 07:00 PM)
maybe u all can start discussing how to make the car faster and more stable rather than talking kok. heheheh. one does not need bearing rollers and expensive hop up to win. mini 4wd cars can be set/tune although there is always an element of luck. there is some physics to mini 4wd. i have seen those uncle cars and i can tell u guys they can be beaten. better buy belanja david so that he can teach u his tricks.

one tip is to see how the car jumps. see where you land and how u land to determine how to alter the car's setting to adapt to the track. always take a peek at the fastest car to see where he goes right and try to improve on it. if he is currently the fastest for the track he must be doing something right. there is no such thing as one setup. i used to race week in week out and never have an identical setup for my cars before. if your budget allow have more than one car to tryout the track. see which setup is the fastest for the track and try to improve on that car. have more than one type of chassis. most important is keep thinking on new ways of setting the cars.
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i really agree with u n your point not too much talk kok
talk bout setting and improvement this is what we are lacking now dont just copy ppl setting buta buta without knowing what the setting is about
think bout your own can work or cannot its been done with testing trail n error
i am still learning till today
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post Nov 28 2006, 06:49 PM

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why got a thread to talk kok here ar??
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post Nov 28 2006, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(mazdaspeed @ Nov 28 2006, 06:00 PM)
maybe u all can start discussing how to make the car faster and more stable rather than talking kok. heheheh. one does not need bearing rollers and expensive hop up to win. mini 4wd cars can be set/tune although there is always an element of luck. there is some physics to mini 4wd. i have seen those uncle cars and i can tell u guys they can be beaten. better buy belanja david so that he can teach u his tricks.

one tip is to see how the car jumps. see where you land and how u land to determine how to alter the car's setting to adapt to the track. always take a peek at the fastest car to see where he goes right and try to improve on it. if he is currently the fastest for the track he must be doing something right. there is no such thing as one setup. i used to race week in week out and never have an identical setup for my cars before. if your budget allow have more than one car to tryout the track. see which setup is the fastest for the track and try to improve on that car. have more than one type of chassis. most important is keep thinking on new ways of setting the cars.
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one thing i learned from the race the other day, plastercine does come in handy . tongue.gif
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post Nov 28 2006, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Nov 28 2006, 07:13 PM)
one thing i learned from the race the other day, plastercine does come in handy . tongue.gif
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how come non tamiya parts are allowed. i saw the uncle using it. dunno what was it for but my guess he was balancing the car with it. he stuck in under the bodyshell. he observe how the car jump and try to put some weight to make sure car jump and land not one sided.
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post Nov 28 2006, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(mazdaspeed @ Nov 28 2006, 07:27 PM)
how come non tamiya parts are allowed. i saw the uncle using it. dunno what was it for but my guess he was balancing the car with it. he stuck in under the bodyshell. he observe how the car jump and try to put some weight to make sure car jump and land not one sided.
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pretyy came to the same conculsion as you there, well , when i`m free one day will make a trip down to test whether using the plasterciine works or not ...and 14grams of wieghts on the car(balanced evenly ) would be enough to balance the car ...i think
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Finally ... Thread clean at last ...
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post Nov 28 2006, 08:04 PM

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thread clean liao..haha..
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14 grams are like so light.....
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post Nov 28 2006, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Nov 28 2006, 07:38 PM)
pretyy came to the same conculsion as you there, well , when i`m free one day will make a trip down to test whether using the plasterciine works or not ...and 14grams of wieghts on the car(balanced evenly ) would be enough to balance the car ...i think
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the balance of car is based on track lar. even when u balance your car for the track at certain speed, when u go faster or slower the balance will be out. you put the weights on the car depends whether the tip is diving down first or tail first. generally you want the car to jump to the maximum allowed straight after the jump to be fast and if very techincal track u want the nose to dive down quickly so that car would not fly out. even playing with rollers can affect the balance of car. there is certain track u need wide track witdh and certain track u want it to be narrower. how you set up the rollers and amount of front down thrust you put can also affect stability of car.

in mini4wd the size of tires used and match it with proper gear ratio also very important. even thinning the sponge tires there is certain tricks to it. too thin and it cant absorb the impact after jump and cause your car to jump out again. too thick high cg also not good. there is a balance in everything you do.
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post Nov 28 2006, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(mazdaspeed @ Nov 28 2006, 09:05 PM)
the balance of car is based on track lar. even when u balance your car for the track at certain speed, when u go faster or slower the balance will be out. you put the weights on the car depends whether the tip is diving down first or tail first. generally you want the car to jump to the maximum allowed straight after the jump to be fast and if very techincal track u want the nose to dive down quickly so that car would not fly out. even playing with rollers can affect the balance of car. there is certain track u need wide track witdh and certain track u want it to be narrower. how you set up the rollers and amount of front down thrust you put can also affect stability of car.

in mini4wd the size of tires used and match it with proper gear ratio also very important. even thinning the sponge tires there is certain tricks to it. too thin and it cant absorb the impact after jump and cause your car to jump out again. too thick high cg also not good. there is a balance in everything you do.
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QUOTE(mazdaspeed @ Nov 28 2006, 08:05 PM)
the balance of car is based on track lar. even when u balance your car for the track at certain speed, when u go faster or slower the balance will be out. you put the weights on the car depends whether the tip is diving down first or tail first. generally you want the car to jump to the maximum allowed straight after the jump to be fast and if very techincal track u want the nose to dive down quickly so that car would not fly out. even playing with rollers can affect the balance of car. there is certain track u need wide track witdh and certain track u want it to be narrower. how you set up the rollers and amount of front down thrust you put can also affect stability of car.

in mini4wd the size of tires used and match it with proper gear ratio also very important. even thinning the sponge tires there is certain tricks to it. too thin and it cant absorb the impact after jump and cause your car to jump out again. too thick high cg also not good. there is a balance in everything you do.
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most of them i see put tje the plaster wan .lol sweat.gif
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maybe can merge the thread ?
choon hon
post Nov 28 2006, 08:57 PM

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wow..good good tips..sonic i will oso try the plasticine trick..haha...
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post Nov 28 2006, 09:28 PM

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Hmm ask the mod to merge the 2 threads
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post Nov 28 2006, 09:33 PM

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Hmm i saw the uncle seow keep on playing with plasticine no wonder he can keep the car so stable. I have to prepare myself for the next competition thoroughly. 3 more days of SPM!!!!! WOOOHOOOOOO
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all i can say i try to think for your own or improve on ppls idea. no point copying blindly what ppl do. if you got new ways of setting up the car and it works than this will give you a competitive advantage. ever wonder why those uncle started to use the voltmeter. its the way for them to control the speed of the car. by measuring the voltage of batteries they can then decide how to go faster or slightly slower. start marking your used cells as it will come in handy for races. you could always mix and match the batteries. if you plus the two batteries voltages the higher the voltage the faster the car and vice versa.

there are also many tricks to slow down the car just before the jump. you can set front and rear rollers + rear skid brake pads very low so that right before the jump the tires are not with contact with the track at all thus slowing the car for the jump.
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post Nov 28 2006, 09:36 PM

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wa...all got expierience except of me.I never dare to go to play coz everytime I play sure got benda rosak one.Sometime chasis,gear,etc.......Bad luck for me.The loop make my luck even worst...

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