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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread V36, celebrating 35th anniversary!

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amosai
post Jun 26 2015, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(heally82 @ Jun 26 2015, 05:42 PM)
true, my thai friend is one of them, collecting all those transparent ver which i really dont see the purpose...

at least from a builder point of view...
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Well, you still build transparent kits don't you? Technically you still build them HEHE, the good thing about clear versions is that you can't reproduce them under normal circumstances, no amount of paint can help you do that. You can only do a custom paint to make your gunplas look like 7-eleven or p-bandai. That's a huge plus I believe.

I have gotten the F91 and Try Burning Transparent and I have to say it looks magnificent xD.

You can even use them as afterimages if you have the normal version ones too.


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post Jun 27 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Jun 27 2015, 11:52 AM)
You are getting people wrong again
What he meant is transparent kits are IMPOSSIBLE to replicate with any amount of modelling skills at all
It only can be achieved at the injection molding process
Hence it's quite worthy for some to pay the extra costs for getting transparent kits
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That's what I was trying to say and you definitely rephrased it better xD.

Heally, when i say "you build transparent kits", I don't mean you specifically. It's a form of saying things in English. A transparent kit does not magically build itself to a kit.

You technically still need to build it. Frankly speaking, people nowadays are taking the word "building" and mistaking it with "customise". When you assemble the kit without filing, sanding etc, that's still building. That's what a builder does. However, builders can take a step further to customise it by painting etc.

Why people like to differentiate themselves as " real builders" baffles me. Either they don't know the english language well enough or they just want to differentiate themselves from straight builders because that is too low for them to do. Ohh well.

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post Jun 27 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(heally82 @ Jun 27 2015, 02:32 PM)
Well based on the popularity of robot damashi and metal build I guess straight builders are considered soon the only builders around. People just don't customized with extra detailing, weapons mix match, articulation improvements and more. These phenomena even happened in japan hence the purpose of bf and bft. Gunpla is slowly shifting back to toys category. The value of a builders kit is how much you can add on a kit so straight building a kit doesn't attract much to real builder point of view.
Never seen a transparent kit that enter gbwc should give you some hints there...

Though I have been thinking would be nice to have 5 transparent color try burning to recreate the denial battle scene...
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doh.gif Facepalm..... You're one of those that is desperately trying to defend that gunplas are not toys aren't you? It's a rather sensitive and controversial topic so I'll not dwell into that.

Besides, you saying transparent kits don't enter gwbc does not invalidate my point. You still build them. Painting is a part of building gunplas but is not required of it. You do not need to paint, file, sand things down to consider it built. Assembling straight it as per instruction is building "straight BUILD". Hence, builder is also the correct term here. As opposed to what you think.

Just to humor you, there are several impracticality why people don't use transparent kits to enter gwbc for example:

1) When you customise (usually you paint), and VOILA, no more transparent parts, doesn't that defeat the purpose of getting a transparent kit?

2) In order for one to compete with so many people, you can't just show up with a straight build because everyone does not.

3) Is more expensive, need I say more?

4) There might be a rule against it? (Because I think it would be unfair since the availability of those kits depends on geographical locations) Maybe someone who have participated enlighten us?

Unless you can do something unconventional using clear parts, I doubt there's any need for clear parts in competitions.

The reason for build fighters and build fighters try is to sell more gunpla and increase profit. It's a big company, they aren't all that concerned with what people do with it as long as it does not deteriorate their reputation, shareholders are interested in $$, not a noble cause. brows.gif

There's a clear distinction. Robot damashii/metal build, there's barely any building, more like fixing it up on the pre-made unit. When you buy a model kit and build it (regardless of whether you paint/customise it or not), you're a builder.

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post Jun 27 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(heally82 @ Jun 27 2015, 03:49 PM)
Heh very true in some way, it's like saying if you know how to drive you're a car racer, if you know how to cook you're a cook, if you know how to play badminton you're badminton player. Heck I'm a mathematician, programmer, a lots more...
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thumbup.gif Wah you must have expertise in all those. Kudos to you ^^. Those are professions, not a hobby LOL. That's why we call gwbc builders, professional builders brows.gif.
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post Jun 27 2015, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Jun 27 2015, 05:36 PM)
I always tot that snap fit + panel line + decals is merely work of straight builder? And coating too since those are basic appliance?

Shading, repaint, minor molding, improving parts = intermediate?  Normally ppl fix the gunpla flaws or adding some silver/metals to those booster etc

Heavily mod, reconstruct the entire kits to something else, battle damage = advanced?  Since those require not only skills but good interpretation of color and creativity to make it looks interesting and natural.
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Yup, that's how I look at it. biggrin.gif


Heally, all I am saying is builders covers a wide array of people who builds. There's no real or fake builders. Just beginners, intermediate, advances/professional builders. At the end, all are still builders, just at varying levels. It shouldn't be embarrassing at all to call oneself a builder even as a beginner. And I believe meeting a pro can definitely improve one's experience in building.

And there are people who would like to gauge where they stand in open competitions. I don't think it's sad at all, after all it is to promote gunpla. I feel that an honest approach on how the kits are made is a must, no point saying a kit that has nub marks and call it good. If it's bad, just give suggestions on how to improve. Don't have to be mean and go to the extent and say "you're not a builder". Technically, the person still built it, just not that refined.

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post Jul 6 2015, 06:19 PM

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Hey guys, anyone has received the new year campaign gifts before? I won the Burning Gundam Gold Ver. Do they send it or you have to contact the nearest authorized dealer?
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post Jul 7 2015, 04:06 AM

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QUOTE(Chiaroscuro @ Jul 6 2015, 08:06 PM)
last time i got they send through litt tak. try ask have they receive new year campaign prize yet.
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Ah I see. Thanks =D.
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post Jul 15 2015, 09:48 AM

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Hey guys, I received an email from lit tak about the campaign prize. Since I am not based in KL, I asked whether can post it out instead and what they replied I have to pay RM30 for courier charges? WTH.... Is this even normal? sweat.gif
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post Jul 15 2015, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 15 2015, 10:07 AM)
where did you get your campaign card from? but i think it's normal to need to pay for courier.. the prize is not by them and they just help to take the prizes from bandai and distribute them, to be fair to them you can't exactly expect them to pay for all the shipping.. but maybe check with the store you purchased from
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Gundam.my I think. I don't mind paying for the shipping but the price is kinda steep for courier charges >.<. The packaging better be good =/. Thanks anyways =D.

QUOTE(TheEvilMan @ Jul 15 2015, 12:35 PM)
Rear design spotted!
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DEM FOOT AND WAIST (or no waist actually)! shocking.gif
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post Jul 15 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(D-y @ Jul 15 2015, 01:55 PM)
may i ask what prize did u won? if it's one of the rg/mg/pg sets then the price seems kinda justify
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It's just an HG Build Burning. If it's an Mg, I would have gladly paid it =/. But it's shiny so rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 15 2015, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 15 2015, 06:05 PM)
It's worth it, consider that you won a discount to purchase the plated HG.
In the end Bandai wins. I like MG Star Build Strike but only Build Strike Full Package is offered along with separate Star Booster.
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Haha, true true. It's another way to look at it. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 15 2015, 07:10 PM)
to me this is a huge turn off as a marketing gimmick.. if i wanted the whole team as per the show i'll need to buy 3 boxes and have 6 add on interchangable parts put to the side
i would rather they box individual units and sell that way, so that i won't have junk parts lying around if i want the whole team of 3

as it is now, i'd much rather wait for a potential KO to separate the units or include a box set of 3 full units with 3 packs than to buy bandai's offering.. feel like they should've made it cheaper but with only 1 unit per box
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If they box it individually means they need to make different sets of runners for each and make different boxes. I still think this is the best way to do it to keep costs low.

And having extra junks lying around is always good for customizing thumbup.gif

Well, that's just my two cents.

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