I have a dream, which is to travel all around world with my love one!
Of course i will bring along my camera to take down those moment as our memories.
Thus, this inspired me to have a idea, which is to take pre-wedding photo/couple photo(not selfie/wefie) at every place/country that we travelling, i wish to take it by myself (not possible to hire a professional photographer to follow me to travel around the world to take those photo )



Now i am looking a lot of pre wedding photo/couple photo to get the idea of how to take it and the solution is to bring Tripod and take the photo by myself.

Hi all the LOWYAT professional, any guidance/tips/suggestion/comment to my idea?
Thanks!

Frank

Not really sure what you are asking here
It is possible to take shots like these although they will probably not be as easy or as nice as those taken by another photographer

Most DSLR or mirrorless cameras come with WiFi capabilities nowadays, so it should be fairly easy for you to adjust your settings using your phone without having need to set-timer-and-run-back-and-forth: You will be able to focus more on the poses/lighting/background etc. instead
A mini tripod will be good to have since it is often difficult to find supports of the right height to put your camera

Otherwise just invest in a selfie stick, but then the resulting photos will look very similar to one another

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Mar 20 2015, 11:08 AM

Thanks PF T.J!
Your suggestion is exactly what i planned! I dontlike to take selfie photo, i wish take those picture with nature poses with both hands free instead of holding camera or selfie stick

I just want to hear the feedback/suggestion from forum whether have any better idea to take good couple photo/pre-wedding photo by themselves instead of hire third person to take the photo. Especially travel photo. Eg: I wish to take couple photo/pre wedding photo in front of Paris Eiffel Tower, that is not possible to hire a photographer from Malaysia and go to Paris to do this (Costly), so i decide to done by myself ( of coz bring along great/awesome attire for pre-wedding photo like suit/dress), currently i think the only way is setup a tripod and using self timer/remote shutter.

Thanks in advance!

Frank

Rather than just taking photos, you should do a videolog as well.

I highly recommend caseynetistat YouTube channel. Simple equipments but really interesting videos !

Thanks LegendLee! OK! Will subscribe it and learning about how to record a good video! Thanks again for suggestion!..

Frank

I know what you mean man haha
I like to take these type of shots as well during my trips, cause sometimes I feel a bit embarrassed to ask people to take for us, and sometimes there are no people to ask at all

I used to shoot using self-timer and remote shutter; both are quite challenging.
With self timer you will sweat really easily since you need to run around, and your expression and poses will surely be affected. Remote shutter is slightly easier but you still need your partner to pose first to set up AF- still need to run around

Here's a shot I took using timer and continuous shooting since I only have one chance in this lifetime to get it right :-


These type of shots will likely be of the same style- landscape. More artistic shots (upclosed, tilted etc.) will require a lot more time and effort

Recent DSLR and mirrorless cameras allow you to adjust settings and AF using your smartphone- very convenient. The only trouble is that you need to find a place to hide your phone!
Face detection makes things alot easier too, worth trying out too

First of all, your photo is very nice! This is exactly what i desire for my photo but i hope to include more artistic shots too ! The only pity is i dont have a DSLR camera, currently using CASIO ZR1500 (Because my girl like this, you know the feature geh! ) , this camera still ok (Still come with manual exposure, aperture priority(f3-f7.9), shutter priority(15-1/2000)) but i will buy a DSLR to take better shot! Any suggestions? Budget RM2k around. Better with 180 degree screen cuz sometimes need to selfie! Thanks a lot, PF T.J!!


Frank

Thanks man for your kind words
I'm sure the shot would be better if taken by another person haha

Hoho, dedicated selfie camera Can use also ma if you want

Perhaps you can take a look at the Sony A5100, should fit your shooting style. Iinm, it can also be used to take shots using your handphone

Thanks for your suggestion bro! Will try to use my ZR1500 to take some day landscape, night landscape and some artistic photo with tripod during these coming week. Will post here for you guys to check what should improve (Test my skill, im newbie photographer)! Going to middle east on Sunday, business trip 2 weeks

Wah, so naice
All the best man, you can do it~~

Thanks ! Will try my best!

This post has been edited by Frank3: Mar 29 2015, 03:31 PM

Any one considering using a drone for this purpose? Don't know whether will it be possible. Worth a try....

Cheers...

Hi flamestudio,

Drone will be very hard to use? Plus high cost? No idea for this

THanks
Frank

Some countries u can't leave u camera on a tripods or in the hand of others.
like Italy or some Europe country there ppl waiting to snatch ur stuff

I would advise against it
You need someone to fly them. Having it hovering even in autonomous mode/gps is risky since you're new to that area and wind lol.

good drones are cumbersome to carry too not to mention ultra wide from above all the way wouldn't look from the top. Keep it too near and it's too noisy.

will u get custom clearance? I believe certain country have rules...

Wa.... are you experienced it?

I have been there. And they are lots of thievery incidents there. Pick pockets every where. My tour bus also got rob during our dinner time.

Interesting approach.. only one suggestion.. get a wireless not IR remote which requires a direct line of sight and also use the delay trigger option.. It will hopefully cut down the obvious and awkward hand trigger position and body language..

Im planning to get mirrorless camera such as Sony A5100 with tripod, then use SMART REMOTE CONTROL (SONY PLAYMEMORIES) on Iphone to view and shot (Timer 10 sec) my desire photograph.

Then i have to careful and not to use tripod while people mountain people sea.

Just keep in mind that you will get photo with you holding the phone' somehow or your hand gesture / body language cannot disguise the action.. unless you deliberately want it in the photo or can dispose it within the 10 seconds (which is plenty of time).. These were issues I faced when using remote and being self critical of my shots, it became annoying after some time.

Have fun, I am sure you will find a way to work around.

A5100 come with 16-50 PZ lens, is this lens good? Need your professional advise sir.
How about A6000?

Get A6000. I've never use it before, but a lot of people are praising it for it's auto focus and specs.

I shot this using camera's built in timer and tripod, I don't have a remote, but I will try to get a remote next time I want to do this. Had to run back and forth to set camera and check image, it's tiring.
PB021643-Edit2 by Jasonmon, on Flickr

This post has been edited by Nogol: Apr 7 2015, 02:48 PM

First, I like your portait photo! I love to shot close portrait (shallow depth of field) and environmental portrait. Need your professional suggest on lens.

Yes, with remote apps we may skip those tiring run back and setting camera, and just set the timer to hide our phone!

A6000 is very near A5100 only different is A6000 have viewfinder and higher ISO as i survey at internet.

Both the a5100 and a6000 allows you to wirelessly take photos using your smartphone ("Sony Smart Remote Control" App) right?
You can adjust where to focus (this one is the trickiest part using the "conventional method", especially for solo shots), and even all the other camera settings too- extremely convenient. Just need to think of where to hide the phone

[I don't have a Sony, but I have a Fujifilm that allows remote control through smartphone as well, should be similar]

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Apr 7 2015, 05:29 PM

you mean something like this?



This post has been edited by michlove: Apr 7 2015, 05:12 PM

I think every brand have their remote control apps, like Canon, Nikon...
For portrait photography, which lens is best? Normal prime? Wide angle? With or without zoom is better?
Thanks!


Frank

Yes! Exactly! And some close portrait as well !
Thanks for sharing!



Frank

True, but not every model has the support for remote control, so have to be careful haha
Well, the 50mm F1.8 (equivalent to 75mm on APS-C sensors) isn't called the portrait lens for nothing. But then whether to get one or not really depends on your budget and skills.
For starters, maybe it will be better to stick to the 16-50 kitlens first Most people only opt for the 35/50mm F1.8 as the 2nd lens, after becoming more experienced at shooting

Update: The zooming ability will allow you to work better in tight spaces too- very important for self-shots. Yeah, the zoom lens is better in this case- more versatile

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Apr 7 2015, 05:34 PM

I tried on last Friday


I think the photograph idea is the most important, then camera setting and camera quality.



Sorry im the newbie..

Frank

for portraits, definitely prime lens. Canon lens, i love 50mm 1.2 and 135mm

Not bad~
Keep it up!

I actually took 2 last weekend also


*Didn't bring tripod, so just use whatever support I could find

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Apr 7 2015, 09:09 PM

Tripod (if oversea I recommended Manfrotto Pixi, tiny and easy to bring), camera with wifi support (you able view from phone app)

Sample from mine


#X-T1 + 23mm f/1.4 + Pixi

This post has been edited by gavingoh: Apr 7 2015, 08:44 PM

Nice shot!
Wah, later camera gets stolen

Haha nope, low % will happen in Japan

Yeah, true also
Keep it up man~

Thanks for your suggestion! Appreciate it! The pixi only very short right? Is there any pixi as tall as tripod?
Frank

Thanks!

Nope. Yes it's short and you may refer here http://www.manfrotto.com/collection/8374.5...072172.0.0/Pixi
Tall I would suggest get befree if you really oversea, because light always the first.

A5100 sure have remote control

Ya i will try use the kitlens first, then only consider to get other lens such as macro or those F1.8 lens...

Still need some times to train my skills then i will know which lens fit me well.

Anyway, many thanks to your advises!

OKOK, this pixi is very nice and cute! Girls will love it!

Also depends on your requirement of the photo. my friend previously wanted to shoot his own prewedding himself. with lighting and hair and makeup... after an hour he called me to come assist ... he was tired of running about and checking the exposures. mirrorless + wifi is the way to go to make it easy. Thats why I'm thinking of switching to mirrorless .. since two years .. lol still THINKING stage.

but this is definitely a good idea. Im going to try do this too, been a while since I bring out my beat up dSLR to play... always behind the camera, never in front ...

best of luck Frank3

Hi Gerald7,

First of all, thank you!
Waaa, your friend is trying to complete his prewedding photo within one day?
I think i will take 3-4 years to take in different country , each trip try to get 5-10 best photo add into my collection. Then after 5 trips i will have 50-100 pre wedding photo with different environment and outfit
The hard part is i need to bring those outfit cloth such as suit & gown to oversea...or maybe can rent over there

Frank

Yes we did wrap up in about 4 hours. Me and another friend helped... but he also had professional help when they went overseas.

5 years planning.. wow.. epic bro.. keep us updated!

Funny thing for my friends prewed that I shot, I uploaded to flickr then it got into GettyImages, with the couples release.. and got sold...

Yo Bro, your friends photo sure very nice, mind share?
Sure i will keep you all in updated, in this thread

Thanks.
Frank

my friends photos macam biasa only la.. normal prewed photos. https://flic.kr/s/aHsjANwsMS

One more tip for you, becareful where u set your camera, as someone might just suddenly jump out and grab your camera and run since it is far from you.

So i suggest you get one of those al cheapo digitr38 or something like that tripod(the ones that everyone has when buying new camera), wide angle lens, a dslr with tilting/flipping screen. Put near near you and compose from there. can keep camera within 1m distance and can adjust adjust instantly and can do many artistic shots. but since it is wide angle there will be distortion at the side if it is too near. So pandai pandai lah tangkap angle

Yes sir, get a short focal length lens thus we can put our camera near near from us Nice suggestion! Thanks a lot!


Frank

First try my new camera Sony A6000 with 50mm 1.8 len.
If wear gown and suit i will be perfect.
The wifi of sony is bad if too far from camera , will try wide angle next time.

actually this is good idea

I just done my pre wed shooting (freelancer from friends)

previously having idea to buy a camera and do it own (since my camera was stolen), which we can do it casually and daily but my waifu insists to do it in traditional way =.='' no choice~

Currently i found there are two challenges of self taken pre wedding photoshoot:

1) Attire (gown/dress/suit):

Self shooting: We have to rent/buy the gown, suit and other accessories such as flowers by yourself.
Studio services: They will provide you these stuffs.

2) Make up (hair/face):

Self shooting: We have to make up by ourselves, or go to beauty/hair shop before shooting.
Studio services: They will provide these services for us before/during shooting.

gown renting not cheap RM300-RM500

makeup about RM600

Is this the price you pay when shooting pre wedding photo?

Yup

It is every girl's dream in wedding gown so no choice, else I rather go on casual dress shooting

Yup, indeed. I am still searching those cheap gown under few hundred Ringgit for my girl..
Or perhaps other traditional cultural dress will good also, such as Cheongsum, Korean Hanbok, Japan Kimonos

I guess if your shooting is more than 1 day u may need to buy one than rent one.
Cos usually they rent it daily basics, eventually a big cost

we are lucky cos our friend rent us one, so one more choice.

and another thing may shoot during weekdays than weekend....else too many pppl...photobombing haha

But its always cheaper to do all of this yourself
For dress and suit, you can easily buy them for cheaps via Taobao, loads of choices summore

As for makeup, I'm very sure you all have a friend or two who are good at it
The makeup doesn't have to be extraordinary; but some makeup is always better than none haha and it will show up in the resulting photo

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: May 14 2015, 05:52 PM

Very good point, those who wanted to shoot at Sekinchan on the previous Labour Day weekend will surely be disappointed... never expected the crowds to be that massive!

Yes, dress and suit can buy at cheaper price at those online retail, or wholesale market.

Haha, photo bombing by tourist really annoying, must visit on low season or find a different angle view without people (based on ur creativity)

Practice again Sun light is too strong, this photo was taken during noon
Will try on morning or evening next time.

This post has been edited by Frank3: May 26 2015, 02:53 PM

That and the silly angled shot. Unless for certain dramatic effect, don't do angle shot on weddings. This one would have look fine without it. IMO anyway.

Thanks your opinion DaddyO, can you suggest any better way to shot such photo?By tripod with remote shutter apps. Much appreciate if you can guide me

Imho I think you should be given credit to take a tilted shot by yourself, its not easy at all I usually just take from far (non-angled) and just crop for effects (if needed)

The shot would be better with a better background, and when its not around noon time (colours become washed out, sky blown out); plus possibly if you guys dressed better

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: May 27 2015, 09:44 AM

Tripod has its own purpose and not a requirement if you got steady hand. Never did wedding shots, but i had seen couple of them.

Some of the "silly" but fun shots that use angles technique are like jump shots, mind bending shots (like hill climbing on flat surface) or dramatic scenes. The shot you just took does not fit the bill and that would be better on normal angle.

Just bear in mind, these are "wedding" shots. Not overly creative shots for personal use. So make sure the couples are main focus, not the background or pure artistic reason.

It is very tough to do it! Plus my SONY A6000 wifi will be always disconnect with my smart phone if i go too far from camera, while using 50mm lens , then i have no choice to use wide angle kit lens 16mm so i will not facing problem to remote control my shutter.

The background is overexpose because we take under the tree shadow (cuz too hot during the noon)
Will try to shot more during morning or evening next time with better dress up

Thank you very much PF T.J

Appreciate your opinions DaddyO. I will try to use longer focal length with low f-number aperture such as 50mm f1.8 lens which focus more on us so can blur more to background.

Bobian have to use tripod or something that can support my camera because there is no other hand can help me . That's why i open this thread "self pre wedding shot", shot own wedding photo without hire photographer or asking friend to shots (means no other hands to press shutter button), i am not very rich guy who can hire a photographer or a team to go travel with us (eg Paris, US, London, Salar De Uyuni, Santorini, Bali, Maldives, Norway for aurora and many many more destination that i plan to travel in future and i wish to have these awesome background in my wedding photo, this is my dream )

This is a very very challenging goals for me anyway.

Oops i may misunderstood your original intention. Then tripod is a must for self shoot. Also dont use biggest aperture since you are not behind the camera. Try to decrease aperture to 4 or 6 (differ btw cameras and lens) so dont accidentally blur yourself. Try to get selfie cam that can lcd rotate180 so you can see yourself If smartphone bit awkward to use. A6000 is not exactly user friendly for self shot unless you know how to use timer.

No worry dude It is true that sometimes the lens will blur us but focus the background so i have to set face detection mode to avoid this problem occur. I use smartphone "playmemories app" as my remote viewfinder to check my pose and use 2s timer (i press shutter in playmemories app), then hide my phone
I cannot see the LCD while under strong sunlight, i tried before using this method (casio ZR1500 with 180 LCD) it was very difficult than remote control app

Would strongly suggest getting a 180 lcd camera though like a5100 or vari angled lcd second cam. Since i believe you be using it a lot even after the wedding like honeymoon and selfie with your partner. Also if not mistaken a6000 cannot do raw capture on remote so if got scene with high dynamic range will be though.

I will try whether A6000 can capture RAW file tonight by remote apps. Actually i want to buy a5100 but i hate touchscreen and FPS is lesser (i do capture kids sometimes by burst mode). BTW, i still have Casio ZR 1500 as selfie camera and A6000 as professional photography purpose , still on the way to learn more on professional photography such as portraits, landscape, street photography and astrophotography (i like this!), and going to purchase Lightroom and Photoshop for learning more on photo developing skills)

Tested yesterday night, using playmemories remote control can shoot RAW+JPEG

Oh nice. Then next thing to worry is the battery life due to wifi, lol.

Yup, i have one extra battery and 3~4 memory card for more space

Large Selfie Machine for event, wedding, roadshow and many more.

Please refer to

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3598147&hl=

http://www.gui-tou.com/2014/06/photography...ewedding-2.html

Successful Self Prewedding Photo ! This is exactly what i want !

Wah, the variety of the photos is really awesome
Thanks for sharing~

This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Jun 9 2015, 09:42 AM

You are welcome bro~ Sharing is Caring hahaha Lets moving forward to our dream!

if you have a second battery then you can consider using a USB battery charger as alternative.. Most of us have power bank these days and that will give you the extra juice you need without having to invest on more battery.

Yo guys, tried some shoot last couple of weeks!

Disneyland hongkong sleeping beauty castle

Ruin of ST paul's Macau


This post has been edited by Frank3: Aug 25 2015, 03:11 PM

the 1st ever guidance/tips/suggestion/comment for your need, is to get a proper camera.

Hi Junfu1988, thanks for comment.

Of course, to get a best quality photo we more prefer on Full Frame sensor. But i cannot afford to get full frame, so i get a APS-C sensor camera - Sony A6000 (I could changes lens to get better photo, different focal length/F-number)

For travelling, for me i would not like to carry too heavy stuff like those DSLR, what i need is smaller size camera such as mirrorless camera.

Any better suggestion from you? Appreciated..

More sharing for my selfshoot pre wedding photo.


This post has been edited by Frank3: Mar 8 2016, 11:36 AM