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justordinary
post Apr 15 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Epix @ Apr 15 2015, 10:59 AM)
For both websites, do I need to pay the tariff for the shipping?
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For massdrop iinm above Rm500 only have to pay taxes.

For taobao just go to service noticeboard in lowyat forum and look for an agent to ship them for you
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post Apr 16 2015, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(firstknight @ Apr 15 2015, 10:31 PM)
Not really. I'll wait for the malaysia release instead. Shipping itself is already Rm100. Not to mention the 2nd batch extra long wait time. hmm.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Apr 16 2015, 09:46 AM)
but I only left 2 keyboards now.  laugh.gif
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Which 2? hmm.gif
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post Apr 23 2015, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(ragecat @ Apr 23 2015, 01:09 AM)
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl...id=board_Lsno50

where do i get a pcb for this but without the numpad? want to move the arrow buttons to the left a bit and chop off the numpad area. something like this

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@...6%93&=%E2%86%92
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http://www.gonskeyboardworks.com/pcbs-and-...-ver20-pcb.html
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50580.0
http://winkeyless.kr/?product=b-mini-pcb

These are 75%. For pre-built wan theres noppo choc mini or custom duck octagon
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post Apr 23 2015, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Apr 23 2015, 02:30 AM)
Keycool 84 with cherry switches is on massdrop  brows.gif
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Or that but thats kailh switches though and it's cheaper in taobao than massdrop. Or leopold fc660m, or varmilo, pretty sure i seen one but forgot the exact model.
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post Apr 24 2015, 04:39 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Apr 24 2015, 03:15 AM)
Guys, may I know where you guys buy Krytox lube?

Prefer USA site la, mostly I saw are out of stock, or sold in huge volume, which is super expensive and I don't need that much.

Or anyone here have extras that can sell me some. biggrin.gif
Project incoming, but not too soon, just wanna get things prepared.

EDIT: I found on EBay. Well if anyone got extra locally, I don't mind buying just don't rip me off.. smile.gif
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Check gon? spirit from GH? Spirit charges 8USD shipping and GON if not mistaken is $20. There are some complaints about spirit but few months ago i bought springs from him and had no issues at all.
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post Apr 24 2015, 04:52 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Apr 24 2015, 04:43 AM)
Oh yeah Sprit, huhuhu, golden springs, good stuff. Thanks for the info, I'll check that out. biggrin.gif
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Mmm just checked his order form. Krytox 103 was removed from it. Previously he told me that he had both 103 and 104 perhaps you can pm him if you want 103.
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post Apr 24 2015, 05:13 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Apr 24 2015, 05:03 AM)
Yeah I'll check with him, but actually these are used for MX clears, so I'm not sure what to use, many on GH used 105. (Higher number higher viscosity right?)

How about the GPL205 grease? I'll just test a couple of switches first, then only I'll decide if I want to lube them all, the set I'm buying already comes with 62g Korean springs. biggrin.gif

I'm new to all the lube stuff, definitely need more experiments.
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Yes higher number higher viscosity. Grease are usually used for stabilizers though and oil for switches. In my own personal experience, grease/high viscosity oil does not work very well with plastic contacts. It makes it harder to glide and it becomes sluggish instead. And i find it extremely tedious though to get accurate consistency across the board with lubing.

But of course i'm no lube expert and above is just my personal opinion which might or might not be accurate and never done lube on cherry mx clears so maybe some other sifu here could reply you with a more accurate answer. smile.gif
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post Apr 26 2015, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(CAL V @ Apr 25 2015, 07:02 PM)
Thanks for pointing that out to me, I just posted a log over there.

But my stuff are not in yet, so I've just listed down all the stuff that will be included in this build. Should be able to post some pics next week.

Well, it is a little sad to see no place for such build here.. cry.gif
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You can create an album through imgur too. Remember to link it here i'm interested to see a build log. smile.gif

dadudeneverabides https://www.massdrop.com/buy/unicomp-ultra-classic

Just incase you're interested. cool.gif
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post Apr 26 2015, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(ragecat @ Apr 26 2015, 03:14 AM)
Wow. So many things to do with a mechanical keyboard. I suppose stickers lube and grease all come after youve assembled the keyboard?
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Before. You lube sticker the switch before assembly and soldering.
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post Apr 27 2015, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Apr 27 2015, 02:24 AM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HysRQnJiupQ
Just imagine this, but the bottom housing is still soldered to the PCB.
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You can't do that on consumer grade keyboards. Those plates does not support opening switch top.
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post Apr 27 2015, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Apr 27 2015, 11:21 AM)
Thanks for clarification. I've been thinking of opening the switch before but found out that I can't do that on my board without desoldering. The plate mount switch which is removable without soldering is due to the special plate designed for phantom keyboard.

Anyway, I'm thinking of getting a 60% board for portable traveling.  smile.gif  Anyone know how much do I have to prepare for each component roughly? If possible, I would like the most basic one cause I don't think I would want to bring it out if it's too expensive.

I'm thinking of using gateron switches. Last time I calculated the cost for 1 switch including shipping from taobao would cost around rm1 per switch roughly. So i guesss it's roughly rm60-rm80 there.

Is it cheaper to get a ready made 60% board or is it cheaper to get a custom board?
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Cheaper to get ready made.

Gateron switches - Rm75
Stabilizers - Rm30
Switch stickers - Rm20
Switch lube - Rm35-40
Switch spring - Rm20-40
Stabilizer lube - Rm ??
LEDs - Rm15
Diodes+Resistors - Rm10
60% PCB - Rm100+-
60% plate - Rm45
60% aluminium case - Rm200+-
Mini USB cable - Rm15

Total of about - Rm550?

Here's a breakdown of estimated prices on making a custom 60% board. Prices are not 100% right depending on what you wanna get. PCB price is based on GH60 and not korean PCB. You've got to top up more for that. Prices are direct converted and haven't factor in shipping prices.



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post Apr 27 2015, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Apr 27 2015, 05:14 PM)
Thanks for the rough estimation.

Hmm, I think I wouldn't use stickers,leds etc. Is acrylic case cheaper than aluminium case? But then it will still be very expensive.
I was thinking of getting a ready made stock keyboard one but I wanted to use gateron switches. Or should I find some chinese keyboards which uses gateron switch?
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Mmm if you're not gonna lube, sticker etc, i don't see any point in spending way more for a custom board. If i'm on a tight budget i'd get a cheap stock china board with gaterons instead.

*Just saw cloud posted the poker 2 casing alternative. You'll definitely save alot going with that case. But then again, don't forget you need a set of keycaps. Pok3r comes with aluminium casing and pbt keycaps you might want to consider that.

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post Apr 27 2015, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Apr 27 2015, 10:11 PM)
Hmm, a few good points you bring up there, sifu. smile.gif
Custom layout is definitely welcomed, and poker 2 kinda defeats my purpose of trying out gaterons too. tongue.gif

Leds aren't for me. I can live without it.

If i really want to get a alu case, I can always buy it and change it since the plastic case is only rm20+.

Btw, what's your comment about linear switches on pcb mounting? Are there any special feel from it?
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Tried gaterons 35g on pcb mount itself vs on a acrylic plate mount. Couldn't tell the differences in feel or perhaps i didn't go through extensive typing to tell the difference. But i'll definitely get a metal plate for linear switch if i could. The metal plate sound resonance is too good to miss out. cool.gif
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post Apr 27 2015, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Apr 27 2015, 10:21 PM)
Hmm,  hmm.gif .
Guess I would have to try that out for myself. I don't know how does a metal plate resonance sound sounds like.  biggrin.gif

Or maybe there is a difference between acrylic plate and metal plate. Anyway, I don't even know whether my current keyboard uses a metal plate or a plastic plate.  sweat.gif
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I've side by side comparison so i could tell the sound difference is pretty huge. On the acrylic one the bottoming out is muffled out while on metal plate it sounds more 'full' and loud. But well thats just my opinion i love the sound of linear switches bottoming out. laugh.gif
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(ragecat @ Apr 29 2015, 09:13 PM)
Oh sweet! No need for controller then! smile.gif In what situation is the teensy used for then? I can't seem to find the plate on winkeyless. Just acrylic case.

Btw, I won't need a controller for the GH60 Satan as well right? I'm looking at that for my second keyboard. This one will be for gaming, so I don't need the function keys. B.mini is fantastic for office as its small, has direction keys and the function keys.
I'm picking up my wooden blocks this weekend! Can't wait. I haven't figured out how to chop it yet though. Apparently it is stupid hard to work with.
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Winkeyless acrylic case comes with acrylic plate.

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post May 14 2015, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(joonwei23 @ May 14 2015, 03:52 AM)
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switches for 1 tkl done  sweat.gif  tongue.gif
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How did you manage to get sip sockets and stickers installed. Don't they interfere a little and prevent the top housing from closing snugly?

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