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mucklampir
post Feb 6 2007, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Feb 6 2007, 03:40 PM)
Well... the reason for putting up WB's ROI is that, I'm surprise how low the ROI is for a person who is called as "god" in share market. That % means that in his 10 deals, 8 will burn and only 2 that actually return profit sweat.gif Correct me if I'm wrong. And I understand the risk for taking part into share market, of course, taking risk alone is not enough, I would like to equip myself more knowledge before actually involve into the share market.
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if u put $8400 in berkshire hathaway in 1969, its grown to more than 13 million now. wat u think? still cannot drool.gif you?


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post Feb 6 2007, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Feb 6 2007, 11:48 AM)
Hey, I'm considering to venture into stock market but lacking of knowledge has stopped me from stepping forward. I would like to know, is the average ROI (I read an article stating that even the ROI of Warren Buffet is 22% only sweat.gif ) of stock market is the highest among all comparing to mutual fund and other investment option ??
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for ikan bilis investor, u can get more than 22% ROI easily during bull run. But that doesn't mean u r much better than Buffet. In fact getting more than 22% ROI p.a consistently for few years is also possible. The difference between Buffet n ikan bilis is in liquidity. For Buffet, due to its huge investment, pulling out fr a market is not easy, so he opt for sustainable growth company. Ikan bilis on the other hand can opt for speculative stock which can go up or down like roller coaster. Easily earning more than 50% and pull out without causing the share price dip. cool.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Feb 6 2007, 06:27 PM)
Ikan bilis on the other hand can opt for speculative stock which can go up or down like roller coaster.  Easily earning more than 50% and pull out without causing the share price dip.    cool.gif
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With speculation like that, highly probably ending with -ve return rather than xx% positive return. icon_idea.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 6 2007, 06:01 PM)
if u put $8400 in berkshire hathaway in 1969, its grown to more than 13 million now. wat u think? still cannot  drool.gif you?
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are you 1 of them rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Feb 7 2007, 11:58 AM)
are you 1 of them rolleyes.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 12:35 PM

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Just for sharing, trade at your own risk.

Maxis-CA is trading at discounted value now
Current - RM3.42
Maxis - RM 12.00
Exercise Price - RM8.11
Exercise Ratio - 1:1

Discounted by Rm0.47
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post Feb 7 2007, 12:40 PM

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I grab(goreng) some MTronic at 0.375...

pray hard now... 2:30pm later keep on increase till 0.55!!! ... biggrin.gif

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post Feb 7 2007, 12:50 PM

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Another in-the-money warrant is Maybank-CB
wonder why no one notices that unsure.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 12:53 PM

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thanks for the tips devils..... will check it out smile.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Feb 7 2007, 12:50 PM)
Another in-the-money warrant is Maybank-CB
wonder why no one notices that unsure.gif
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u sure ke?? what's the ratio. Why most newspaper didn't show the exercise ratio for call warrant. very misleading. mad.gif
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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Feb 7 2007, 12:40 PM)
I grab(goreng) some MTronic at 0.375...

pray hard now... 2:30pm later keep on increase till 0.55!!! ...  biggrin.gif
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any soruce?
i know big players will play iris & mobif-
there r back to Speculate biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(feralee @ Feb 7 2007, 01:25 PM)
any soruce?
i know big players will play iris & mobif-
there r back to Speculate biggrin.gif

No source, no source... just it is low enough to buy now(as to my calculation)...

just grab it... and pray it increase lor... not expensive also mah...
Wish me luck man,... brother. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Feb 7 2007, 12:59 PM)
u sure ke?? what's the ratio.  Why most newspaper didn't show the exercise ratio for call warrant. very misleading.  mad.gif
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you can always check bursa site for warrant info biggrin.gif
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/website/bm/ma...rrants_info.pdf
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 6 2007, 03:32 PM)
Ya, in bull run or market hot time, people tends to loose logical thinking and greed come in. That's why a lot of people always trapped in buy high sell low phenomena.

Share price can go whatever level when 'hot' but in the end of the day, share price will stay in the range that match its fundamental valuation. Sky high share price might hold for months or even years but if its fundamental doesn't improve and grow to match it high share price then surely the bubble will burst.

The best example would be tech bubble during 2000-2001. All dotcom company share sky rocket to incredible valuation due to over optimistic about the technology sector, but in reality, its growth path is not as good as people think so bubble then burst in big way.
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At the rate market is going right now is a bit healthier but the darndest thing is it is going up according to the government's wishes.. that makes me wonder whether its the govt election machinery syndicating the "extraordinary" rise. Now they are calling for more "retail investors" its like calling for sacrificial lambs....


QUOTE(dEviLs @ Feb 7 2007, 12:35 PM)
Just for sharing, trade at your own risk.

Maxis-CA is trading at discounted value now
Current - RM3.42
Maxis - RM 12.00
Exercise Price - RM8.11
Exercise Ratio - 1:1

Discounted by Rm0.47
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I tot maxis is 2 CA + RM8.11 for 1? can anyone reconfirm?


Added on February 7, 2007, 2:08 pm
QUOTE(Singh_Kalan @ Feb 6 2007, 06:27 PM)
for ikan bilis investor, u can get more than 22% ROI easily during bull run.  But that doesn't mean u r much better than Buffet.  In fact getting more than 22% ROI p.a consistently for few years is also possible.  The difference between Buffet n ikan bilis is in liquidity.  For Buffet, due to its huge investment, pulling out fr a market is not easy, so he opt for sustainable growth company.  Ikan bilis on the other hand can opt for speculative stock which can go up or down like roller coaster.  Easily earning more than 50% and pull out without causing the share price dip.    cool.gif
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22% is no big deal as you say... in this current bull run, if you had played it dilligently since Nov last year, I would not be surprised if someone has actually got a 2000% on their investment.

This post has been edited by Grengo01: Feb 7 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Feb 7 2007, 02:03 PM)

I tot maxis is 2 CA + RM8.11 for 1? can anyone reconfirm?
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Refer to the PDF file I posted above smile.gif
It's stated 1:1 there
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post Feb 7 2007, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Feb 7 2007, 02:08 PM)
Refer to the PDF file I posted above smile.gif
It's stated 1:1 there
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thanks mate... anyway happy trading and wish all of you will get an Ang Pow from KLSE...
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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Feb 7 2007, 01:33 PM)
No source, no source... just it is low enough to buy now(as to my calculation)...

just grab it... and pray it increase lor... not expensive also mah...
Wish me luck man,... brother. sweat.gif
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lol
play contra?
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post Feb 7 2007, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Feb 7 2007, 02:54 PM)
lol
play contra?
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Seeing people goreng... then mah me goreng also lah!

I give it 7 days,... Does not matter if buy it in. Waiting is better. But if losing also not much. It keeps decreasing now... Losing few cents already... cry.gif

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QUOTE(dEviLs @ Feb 7 2007, 12:35 PM)
Just for sharing, trade at your own risk.

Maxis-CA is trading at discounted value now
Current - RM3.42
Maxis - RM 12.00
Exercise Price - RM8.11
Exercise Ratio - 1:1

Discounted by Rm0.47
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not only MAXIS-CA
MAYBANK-CA and MAYBANK-CB also discount more than 12%
these 3 are good to speculate..
jz buy it and wait for it to trade in value..
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post Feb 7 2007, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Feb 7 2007, 02:54 PM)
lol
play contra?
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play contra if the counter dun move faster enough you will panic 1 and if it drops even more panic whistling.gif

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