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soul2soul
post Feb 2 2007, 03:54 PM

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Public Bank (O) at 9.50 today!!! yeha!!!

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post Feb 2 2007, 04:36 PM

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Today, especailly TM is having tremendous volume traded which rarely be seen(may be) in a decade.

Index though cruise through 1200 level, but when you see overall counters up and down seems like not having the same wave length with the index. Until 4pm, counters up 420, down 428 but still index up almost 18points. There is an advantage buying those index-linked one. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Mayb tis is the government intended plan to push CI up to match wif other countries for showing off how Malaysia can b(BOLEH).
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post Feb 2 2007, 05:15 PM

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or to gather money for the next general election
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post Feb 2 2007, 05:22 PM

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what happen to www.klse.com.my

why i cant get in?
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post Feb 2 2007, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 2 2007, 05:22 PM)
what happen to www.klse.com.my

why i cant get in?
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in the morning still able to login but some error
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cannot at all
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post Feb 2 2007, 06:06 PM

shhhhhhhhh come i tell you something hehe
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sure push till new peak de haha
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post Feb 2 2007, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 26 2007, 07:24 PM)
Recently world stock market upwards mommentum is driven mainly by plenty of liquidity in the market even for Malaysia, liquidity is at all time high which the money is sitting in the bank and doing nothing much.
While interest rate still at relatively low historically, so there are plenty of money seeking for better return especially like stock market.
Until stock market become expensive as comparable to interest return rate then stock market upward momemtum will stop then since there is no reason to invest in stock market anymore. You don't want to take the high risk but still get the return as same as your FD, right?

But stock market also got its risk currently, world economy is predicted to be slow especially in US, if US manage to do the economic soft-landing then it would create the nice picture for the outlook of stock but if it hard-landed and drop into the recession zone then be prepared some roller coaster ride for the stock.
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This guy's comment is good. He is experienced or has knowledge on the economic cycle. Take heed of his advice.

Just to recap. Basically there are 2 ways to analyze, 1) Fundamental analysis 2) Technical Analysis.

Fundamental analysis requires finacial analysis of company annual report. Main idea is to get a stock which price is way below book value (according to Warren Buffet methodology) which is represented by NTA. It also need to take prospect into management, so you know the company will rebound under a good mgmt. So attend their AGM, listen and analyze them.

Technical analysis is just pure price and volume ananlysis of stock. From this, you can look at trend lines and bet against market psychology. Remember, 1)market is determined by the supply and demand 2) The price that is considered value is not the same for everyone opinion 3) People are always greedy..thats what drive the price higher and higher till kaboom.

What highlighted above are just fraction of what I have learn from courses and book I have read and methodology which I have tested against the market from Bloomberg. If you are interested, read Graham and Todd 1946 "Security Analysis" its the bible for stock picking.
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Btw, TA doesn't work well in Malaysia market due to low liquidity and ease of manipulate.
Even for blue chips, often you saw last minute buying spree that just intention to push the closing higher. With that move it might give a false signal to the TA like Japanese Candlestick method. There is no real reason to justify for buying or jump buying (sometimes jump several ticks) at last minute with high price except some intention to manipulate the closing price so that it looks good.
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This the rule i always follow

10. Discount Fundamental Outlook. Never ignore fundamental conditions, and always favor the trade wherein fundamental and technical conditions cooperate. Avoid a trade wherein fundamental and technical conditions are opposed, except in cases of imminent liquidation, or overextended short interest.


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QUOTE(repusez @ Oct 11 2006, 07:40 PM)
crap talk about tips and rumours on klse
http://www.osk188.com/forumOpen.jsp?id=2

visit the star website daily to check on how the stock is performing as it has top 20 active share , dividend info, and yearly performance and etc
but the share price updated is like 1/2 hour late.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/marketwatch/

another worthwhile site to visit is the edge daily.
http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/index.jsp

1st thing if you want to buy share is to open a CDS account(central deposit system, if i'm not mistaken)  with a local brokerage / securities house like OSK, Maybank security, etc.. only cost rm 10 then you can start trading share.

there's a free seminar on how to be stock-market savvy by the Securities Industry Development Centre
http://www.sc.com.my/
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Thanks for sharing the links. My father just called me just now and asking me whether i m interested to invest on shares? So, decided to come here to look for some informations. As i m totally new, but my father have a lot of experience but he have limited "Vitamin M" (Money) ... hahaa ...
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post Feb 5 2007, 06:09 PM

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In such a bull run, fundamentals go out the window, herd instincts follow... then as all get warped up in the frenzy, the market collapses.

Be wary. However, the market still have some way to go but I feel it is far too inflated now. Withdrawing from my portfolio and hold cash from Wed. Start selling from tomorrow. Good luck flers.
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QUOTE(jootat @ Feb 5 2007, 05:55 PM)
Thanks for sharing the links.  My father just called me just now and asking me whether i m interested to invest on shares? So, decided to come here to look for some informations.  As i m totally new, but my father have a lot of experience but he have limited "Vitamin M" (Money) ... hahaa ...
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Hey, I'm considering to venture into stock market but lacking of knowledge has stopped me from stepping forward. I would like to know, is the average ROI (I read an article stating that even the ROI of Warren Buffet is 22% only sweat.gif ) of stock market is the highest among all comparing to mutual fund and other investment option ??
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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Feb 6 2007, 11:48 AM)
Hey, I'm considering to venture into stock market but lacking of knowledge has stopped me from stepping forward. I would like to know, is the average ROI (I read an article stating that even the ROI of Warren Buffet is 22% only sweat.gif ) of stock market is the highest among all comparing to mutual fund and other investment option ??
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he can do that consistently year in year out dude smile.gif
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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Feb 6 2007, 03:09 PM)
he can do that consistently year in year out dude smile.gif

Depends on the capital involving... On the other side, if in value of 40 millions of debt. if currency exchange rate increased of 5%. The company already saved 2 millions!!!

Warren Buffet's capital is... arr... something i have yet to find out... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Feb 6 2007, 11:48 AM)
Hey, I'm considering to venture into stock market but lacking of knowledge has stopped me from stepping forward. I would like to know, is the average ROI (I read an article stating that even the ROI of Warren Buffet is 22% only sweat.gif ) of stock market is the highest among all comparing to mutual fund and other investment option ??
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start from 1969 till 1999, his average return is 30%. but after the crash, it is just 22% but still one of the best le. of course stock return higher than other investment but it also carry higher risk. ur call


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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Feb 5 2007, 06:09 PM)
In such a bull run, fundamentals go out the window, herd instincts follow... then as all get warped up in the frenzy, the market collapses.

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Ya, in bull run or market hot time, people tends to loose logical thinking and greed come in. That's why a lot of people always trapped in buy high sell low phenomena.

Share price can go whatever level when 'hot' but in the end of the day, share price will stay in the range that match its fundamental valuation. Sky high share price might hold for months or even years but if its fundamental doesn't improve and grow to match it high share price then surely the bubble will burst.

The best example would be tech bubble during 2000-2001. All dotcom company share sky rocket to incredible valuation due to over optimistic about the technology sector, but in reality, its growth path is not as good as people think so bubble then burst in big way.


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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Feb 6 2007, 03:09 PM)
he can do that consistently year in year out dude smile.gif
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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Feb 6 2007, 03:21 PM)
Depends on the capital involving... On the other side, if in value of 40 millions of debt. if currency exchange rate increased of 5%. The company already saved 2 millions!!!

Warren Buffet's capital is... arr... something i have yet to find out...  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mucklampir @ Feb 6 2007, 03:24 PM)
start from 1969 till 1999, his average return is 30%. but after the crash, it is just 22% but still one of the best le. of course stock return higher than other investment but it also carry higher risk. ur call
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Well... the reason for putting up WB's ROI is that, I'm surprise how low the ROI is for a person who is called as "god" in share market. That % means that in his 10 deals, 8 will burn and only 2 that actually return profit sweat.gif Correct me if I'm wrong. And I understand the risk for taking part into share market, of course, taking risk alone is not enough, I would like to equip myself more knowledge before actually involve into the share market.

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:03 AM)
How about Megan? Potential???

Mate,... I have checked this one. Looks good!!! Has added it in my checking list.
What is your opinion first? Got any homework done for its latest financial report yet?!

I found this Acoustec. Now checking it carefully. What do you think about this Acoustec?!

How about we compare these 2? To see which one is better?
Or we buy both?! unsure.gif

PS: for others,... just discussion. Dun buy it,...
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QUOTE(TheNameX @ Feb 6 2007, 03:40 PM)
Well... the reason for putting up WB's ROI is that, I'm surprise how low the ROI is for a person who is called as "god" in share market. That % means that in his 10 deals, 8 will burn and only 2 that actually return profit sweat.gif Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Dude, you are wrong with the ROI of 20%.
ROI of 20% per annum mean your investment grow 20% in value mean that you make 0.20 with every 1.00 investment. For long term to do that year in year out, it is impressive.

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