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post Mar 28 2015, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(cwk88 @ Mar 28 2015, 10:16 AM)
pre-ordered windows ver CE (JP) from amazon jp @ 15,984yen (for collection)
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pre-ordered digital CE from amazon us (for my service account)
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If u ordered on the date when it first open for preorder, u'll get 15,984yen. Seems after that, u could no longer find any place on amazon japan selling it at that shelf price.
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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Mar 29 2015, 07:19 AM)
Just get the CE PS3
Too bad doesn't ship to Australia gahhh
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Doesnt ship to Malaysia either. I have to use freight forwarding services from 3rd party to get it to me.
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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Mar 30 2015, 11:06 AM)
managed to preorder from EBGames Australia...
AUD 299. That's MYR 855... GBP 157....

Saddens me to note the price is based on GBP but oh well
Time to go Diet...

P.S. CE Sold out in 35 mins...
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That's kind of insane.... the price difference between regions had been too drastic.
Players have to pay almost 2 copies of ce price to get 1 to reach them. doh.gif

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QUOTE(shojikun @ Mar 30 2015, 03:50 PM)
hmm.gif what Malaysia/SG under region is? PAL?
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PAL also.

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post Mar 31 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(memphiz_zero88 @ Mar 31 2015, 10:13 AM)
no one is bringing it here? hmm.gif
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Based on the price indication here's the price that you would want to check.

JPN CE
RM449.01(After conversion and without calculating shipping cost)
RM650(Inclusive of shipping cost and possibility tax.)*Rough Estimation*

NA CE
RM669 by Qishan

UK CE
RM855 (Latest price update by Kira-Kun)
This is not inclusive of shipping cost.
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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Apr 1 2015, 06:10 AM)
Adjusted a little. Mine is official Australia retailer selling UK shit lol!

well... the problem  that the local suppliers will be facing is stocking up UK/ PAL Edition

Majority of the Asian players users the PAL Edition

The base price for PAL CE is priced at £130 or €130 (RM713 and RM517 respectively)

With the crazy restrictions.. it is hard to secure PAL CE priced at €130. Chances will be from UK-London

If you were to buy in Malaysia Retailer... I estimate the price to be at RM900

Why?

Base price directly from supplier is already RM713. Plus shipping?
Since it is above RM500, you are imposed with custom Tax.

Once you get Custom Tax, you need to pay local GST if the GST system is consistent with the Australia's (I am a Tax Accountant here)

Darkskies, get ready for more money to pay your custom tax and gst hoho!

Retailer Profit? Easy will sell at RM900
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I pay the most is RM650 which i expect. Since i already ordered my jpn ce since day 1.
For the other regions i'm uncertain.
Especially EU ver. The price fluctuates too huge.
Really damn sian with this heavensward expansion. They launch at the worse time of the year.
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post Apr 14 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Apr 13 2015, 03:10 PM)
Thanks for the link.
US$ 47.99 (MYR~174.19) + RM32.30 shipping to Malaysia  shocking.gif

If buy game with CD version, have to waste 2~4 days for courier service to deliver, then only can start downloading.  cry.gif

If digital, can omit the delivery time, straight away download.

If only the CD is patches-ready...
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Hm.. i thought those early birds got early access ? Usually when the transaction is completed before the cd is shipped out, you're given the early access cd-key.
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post Apr 15 2015, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Apr 15 2015, 07:15 AM)
like i said it before, unless you deal with those who directly deal with SE, you may or may not get preorder codes.

Play-asia is one of them to my understanding.

I am somewhat sure that the Malaysia Retailers will not have pre-order codes too unless otherwise their suppliers are willing to give.

Cause here in Australia, we have not received any codes as what EB Games said "We have not received any pre-order codes from Square Enix. Should we receive them, we will contact you in the coming days."

My advice would be dealing digitally with those who actually offer the preorder codes like GMG.
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Early access code through my understanding is distributed out to those who preordered it earlier on.
Like JPN versions, they do indicate that whether the copy u buy comes bundled with early access code or not.
Usually indicated as Early Preorder bundle bonus.
However, it wont be distributed out immediately to those who "preordered" the physical copy. Because money has not been deducted from either your credit-card/debit-card . Only when they deducted money from your bank-acc, they'll distribute the early access code to you via your email.
For digital copy, i'm not too sure since i've not purchased one before. Though if they did deduct money from your valid bank acc, they'll distribute the early access code to you directly.
Same case goes for Malaysia Retailers. If they acquire these early preorder copies, they should have early access code with them. It's just the matter of did the retailer's supplier settled the amount with SE directly.

It's like your regular online purchase from lelong/lowyat. Someone ordered something from you, would you be silly enough to send the item to him before he make payment ? If he cancel order halfway when the parcel is on it's way to his doorstep, how ?
Retailers are not suppose to be without early access code. Ask them to double check with their supplier. It should be distributed to them in the month of end may or early june via emails.


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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Apr 15 2015, 11:13 AM)
Nope.
That's not how it works.

It really depends on how the retailers deal with the actual supplier.

For example, I preorder CoD Advance Warface. Preordering it will give me gold skin @ Destiny.
After obtaining it, I cancel the preorder. No loss for me and retailers don't really care.

Regardless whether you preorder digital or physical copy, unless your retailer has obtained codes from SE.
Then you got the preorder items.

I don't know your JP version. But I find it rather strange. Are you saying that they deduct full 2 weeks before the game release so that you enjoy the pre-order code?

Major Retailers such as EB Games/ Gamestop/ Games and GMG.com, they will normally distribute the preorder codes upon order.

Please note that the preorder codes are normally distributed through email or pamphlet for MMORPG.

I don't recall people getting their copies earlier because they pre-order it for early access.
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Yes i pointed out that it really depends on how our local retailers deal with the actual supplier who is directly/indirect suppliers/distributors for SE.
However it doesnt worked that way. Maybe it worked for you but for my side it didnt quite work out like what you said about the cancelling of preorders after you got your early preorder bonus code.
If everyone start doing that, do you think they won't care about it ?
Yes, i bought games from amazon japan before and they pretty much worked that way for me. I even bought from other japan online stores . They'll only release preorder codes once they receive my payment.
My credit card balance currently do not have any amount charged under amazon japan even though i preordered heavenward on March.

Early access code as what it's hinted. For early access to the new content before official date. It's distributed through your email that you made purchased from through your registered email account. Like during 2.0, i received my early access code through my email from the online japan retailer i bought from. It's 2 weeks before official start of the server. The physical copy arrived seating on my desk after 2 days later from official date.

Every copy of early preordered heavensward should have early access code. I remember that it was distributed by SE themselves and forwarded to me from the online store through email first . The physical copy came along with the same early access code written on the pamphlet as what you described later.
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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Apr 16 2015, 07:16 AM)
Honestly, no.
Retailers won't care.
Why I said so. Cause codes are abundant. Like yesterday, I walked into EB Games store asked why I haven't received my Kombat Pack for MKX as I preordered, immediately they just processed and got the code.

Nice being friends with staff with EB Games. Cause if they got extra codes, they can just give to friends haha!

Overseas, Early Access and all this pre-order items is just an incentive to get the game.

Retailers do not make money from pre-order but only from the games.

Let's say you get the pre-order codes, you eventually still need the game to play right?

Hence that's why giant game retailers such as EB Games, Gamestop, UK Games and GMG do not really care.
Each company has their own practice.
Not surprised Amazon JP does as such where they charge full before giving you the codes.

I do not think the pamphlet is in game.
It should be separate.

If you get the codes before the game. I assume it is out of the game itself. If not you get 2 codes haha!

Regardless, what I am trying to inform, if you want to secure the pre-order goodies, best get online where pre-order items are actually listed and not local retailers as chances you won't be getting it if they do not deal properly.
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Same code la. Just they give me the early access code in advance before the official launch. This was sent to them by Square Enix. I guess as what you say, different retailers have different practice.
Because as what you describe, it doesnt seems to apply in how i regular shop in amazon japan. Same goes for other japan retailers which i have dealt before with.
I just checked amazon japan, they had refilled preorders for PC - collector edition heavensward.
This time 1k yen expensive only. I bought that time is 14k ++ The one currently sold is 15kyen ++.

I think many people complained about the terrible resold price of amazon japan selling heavensward which made them refilled their supplies with much more reasonable price. I remember one of the comments warn readers not to buy it because their japan local retailer is selling much more cheaper then the online price.


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QUOTE(ahsiong86 @ Apr 23 2015, 02:37 AM)
If browse GMG using Hola / Zenmate (Europe IP) the Heavansward will be in europe version ?
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There's only 3 regions available.
JPN , NA and EU.

As long as the site stated that it's a EU copy, it'll be under EU region.
The difference between in these 3 region is the available payment method.
3 regions has different payment method especially JPN.
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QUOTE(kosuke09211 @ Jun 6 2015, 01:48 PM)
anyone know where can i get the collector edition?
with the box and cd and everything?
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What CE region u speaking of ? JPN/EU or NA ?
They are almost RM600-700 or more to get it delieved to Malaysia.
JPN i got it from amazon japan with the help of a parcel forwarding company.
NA from qishan preorders as far as i know it was like one or two months ago.
EU noone had any ideas how to get it in. Many local retailers refused to bring in because of the high shipping cost .
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QUOTE(kosuke09211 @ Jun 8 2015, 01:23 PM)
thx for the information  smile.gif
i've give up on the CE ask many store they all said not going to bring it in
or refuse to get it....

http://www.kinguin.net/category/16374/fina...ownload-cd-key/
and is this legit?
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Many bought from there according to most of the post here. I'm pretty sure it's legit and cheap as well.
When information going through a public vpn such as hola to get through GMG , there are information leaks to 3rd party.

If you really wanted EU Physical CE copy, i guess it's not the best time to buy it before release.
Get it after. Or if you have any friends who's living around EU regions, try to get them to help you buy it and ship it.
It should be much more cheaper then getting local retailers to help you bring it.
Local retailers are definitely going to be 3rd to 5th party*worse*.
The manufacturers going to sell it to a distributor under a cheaper price where they'll mark it up to a percentage depending on region. Distributor will sell it to either our local retailer with a marked up price + shipping fee or to a second distributor which will later be sold to a local retailer.

SE sells to -> EU Distributor sells to -> Asia regional Distributor with marked up price + shipping fee sells -> To our local retailers with marked up price + shipping fee.

RM500++ for CE. With markup and shipping already around RM 600-700++ to asia regional distributor. You've got to top up to RM700-800++ to get some profits for that. And with the gst, how much our local retailers going to allocate the cost to bring in. So in the end if they charge it too low, not profitable. If charge too high, users will complain.
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QUOTE(kosuke09211 @ Jun 8 2015, 04:21 PM)
ok thx  notworthy.gif
got a fren staying at UK but he's coming back at june 20  sad.gif
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officially starts at June 27th. So it's still early.
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QUOTE(kira-kun @ Jun 8 2015, 10:34 PM)
can ask darkskies take pictures to show us the CE xD
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=.= u are also living in EU region and have direct access to buy straight from SE shop.
I'm not sure when will the package arrive at my doorstep.
My estimation is going to arrive only on 30th June ,Tuesday the earliest.
26th will be shipped out in the midnite It'll only arrive 27th which will take them few hours to quote me the packing + forwarding service charge. After paying the amount , they'll probably shipped out perhaps before 5-6pm jp time.
Package take aeroplane come will perhaps arrive on monday or tuesday.
Then it'll go through custom clearance and see those hungry kastam want to cucuk wang or not.
Going through the ding dong shyt, perhaps wednesday or worse friday.
Yes.. i've very sure that the kastam is a now a pack of hyenas looking to cucuk wang from people through kastam clearance.
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The ultimate pocket destroyer for this month.
Physical CE copy + delivery + 6% gst + 3 months subscription . rclxub.gif
This month eat maggi mee already.
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QUOTE(LalaluSan @ Jun 25 2015, 05:43 PM)
OMGOSSHHHHH...... Anyway, any idea where to get Physical CE locally?
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Amazon jpn and through tenso.

Tenso service has fallen so miserably bad that i feel like flying to japan and make them swallow a katana.
Package arrive on 23rd at 11am. They waited untill 24th to inform me package arrive and then allow me to do the payment. I made the payment around 10am. Untill now i also have not seen the package sent out.
I suppose they trying to drag it untill 25th so that the package can be sent out on friday and arrive on tuesday or wednesday.

Last time i use their services, immediately after package arrive, my account page will pop out to inform me to make payment on the same date it arrived. Then after making payment, next day sent out with EMS tracking code.
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QUOTE(Vickyle @ Jun 25 2015, 09:44 PM)
Tenso was slow for me, my item was at tenso for a week before the item left japan. Moreover, the price is more expensive than other forward service. My item arrived to tenso on a Sunday, but redelivered to tenso on Monday, item only left japan on Thursday or is it Friday?
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Got better forwarder recommendation ? I've been looking.. At least reliable and not Delivery Half Lost + Got and Run cases. Been looking and i couldn't find one.


*nvm... i googled a few and found that certain site is offering discount for normal EMS rates and they don't even have service charge fee* But these site do not offer english assistance . No issue for me anyway, i've been dealing with quite a handful of pure japanese sites without issue.

Damnit Tenso. They offer premium price tag service but do things like snail. After the parcel reach me, i'll immediately delete my tenso account.

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QUOTE(LalaluSan @ Jun 26 2015, 11:26 AM)
How much does it cost by using tenso? I've checked on other website, which usually cost approximate rm6xx include shipping  sweat.gif  need to survey more on this...

Luckily its near end of the month now, just bought myself a 32"tv, gonna eat grass if i manage to get this CE  cry.gif
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http://biginjap.com/content/16-forwarding-terms
-Flat rate of 500 yen service charge on anything.*Cheapest i've seen*
-Will need to pay additional 500 yen for repackaging fee.
Take note though, this site has a banlist for russia and indonesia. laugh.gif
I'm unsure the review of this site and how fast they process your order.

http://tensoservice.com/
On free campaign.(Limited) *membership is free + service usage free*
0 service fee and best of all, 5-10% discount on normal EMS rate charge.
The quote i got from tenso for my heavensward is 3180G . Available nearest option 3 kg and 3.5kg. So have to choose 3.5kg option.
EMS rate for 3.5kg is 4500 yen and 5% off = 4,275 YEN.(You only need to pay)

http://www.tenso.com
Total i pay for Tenso is 5930 yen.
EMS shipping 4500 yen and service charge 1430 yen.

The indicated weigh doesn't necessary represents the weight of the parcel. It's sometimes also measured according to the parcel's dimension. If they use a bigger box to contain your small package, the price will be more expensive then it originally is. Tenso has been a big entity and they should receive certain discounts rate from EMS for using their services. Hence which is why they tried to make your parcel heavier then it originally is by repackaging it with a bigger box. Heavier = Higher price and they gets better returns from the discounts they get. The expansion if packaged rightly and along with it's dimension should weigh no more than 3kg.


Here's the detail i found from googling.
Dimension: 7-5/8” x 7-1/8” x 10-5/8”
CM To 2 decimal place = 19.37 x 18.10 x 26.99
I put 1cm increase to roundoff = 20 x 19 x 27
Volumetric billable weight is 2.5kg
Volumetric calculations source from DHL
Heavensward collectible source dimension
Heavensward CE weight is 2kg.
Source form
Yesasia

How tenso get 3.180KG is something really questionable.



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Got the ce box today from amazon japan.
23rd june reached tenso and delivered to malaysia on tuesday 30th june. doh.gif

Some snapshot.

Parcel box of Heavensward
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Signature of Yoshida.
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Contents
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The excess of Paper box junks.
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I'm not really contented or fascinated by these overly priced premium stuffs from SE. In fact , i feel cheated.
First of all, no monthly timecard included.
The whole huge box have only 4 things that are useable. (1 book art of heavensward with his signature , 2 cd and a dragon figurine.)
The excessive paper box junks puts weight and burden to shipping cost. Some are hard and heavy as well.
Perhaps it gives u the flexibility to showcase your only "4 items" of heavensward.

Overall, it's just totally bs. They did not even calculate and design the ce to be shipping friendly.
Wished that i should have just order the download copy. RM492 for the ce and RM182 for delivering it to Malaysia , totall dmg cost , RM674. vmad.gif

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