Hello, i recently finish alevels and am going to take a degree in computer science. All i see in this forum about cs course is only MMU/APU/Monash. What about sunway university? would like some opinion on sunway cs course. Thanks

Yeah i would also like to know about Sunway's Computer Science Course. How good is it?

My boyfriend grad from Sunway's Computing course and I grad from APU's computing course. Certainly a lot of difference if you do comparison between both.

I have to agree that Sunway's syllabus is almost 2 times easier than APU and MMU's computer science course. Sunway's lecturers are so lenient in marking, especially assignments and projects, so it is quite easy to pass. In APU a simple maths module can have 70% of the class failing it.

So your point is that APU's computer science is better than Sunway?

On your question, "I believe so" is my answer. APU and MMU computer science/IT courses have a much greater reputation for IPTS.

Hey thanks for replying.

Sorry to bother you but can you tell me what IPTS is?

I will be applying as an international student so i don't know much about it. Actually nothing.

By the way, how is the Future Employment Prospects at IT field in Malaysia?

This post has been edited by Subflick: May 8 2015, 09:30 PM

IPTS are private universities in Malaysia, while IPTA are public universities funded by the Malaysian government.

IT field in Malaysia is gradually rising, slowly but surely, as demanded globally where IT field holds a significant position on the world. Future employment? No idea. IT field is one of the top 10 best paying field in Malaysia.

Thanks man. It really helps me a lot.

But one thing I am concerned about is that the ''rumors'' and ''bad talks'' I keep hearing about APU.

Like I have heard that their teaching quality is going down, lousy lecturers etc.

But none of them seems to be a grad/at least studied at APU.

So it would be helpful if you can assure me of the quality.

Thanks and again sorry to annoy you haha.

In terms of syllabus difficulty, APU is far more difficult than Sunway. So it really depends on what you are looking for. Whether you are looking for a good syllabus, or a simple syllabus to pass.

There is certainly a reason why APU/MMU's computer science is more popular than Sunway. But be prepared, don't be surprised if you have 70% of the class failing a test.

For Malaysia's IT job prospect, fresh graduate programmers often get between 2.8k - 3.7k nowadays. Not bad for now, but if you talking about employment after you graduate, we won't know.

I do not agree. I am ex APU student. I transfer to monash already. APU sylabus is so low. I never do assignment/class test for math. I still pass my maths module.[during 2014] and if you don't already know... if u fail u can beg APU top management to pass you....

This post has been edited by FaTaLiTy.KiLLS: May 9 2015, 12:09 AM

Please do not go APU if you have the choice. I beg you.
Monash>APU>MMU>Other

This post has been edited by FaTaLiTy.KiLLS: May 9 2015, 12:10 AM

Thank you! These information really means a lot to me.

I have compared both universities course structure and APU seems to have a better one!

Do me one more favor please if you can...
Since you are a graduate from APU can you tell me about their education quality and facilities?

And since your Boyfriend graduated from Sunway you might know about his experience.

Thanks again.

I am a student at APU. Bout the teaching quality? I guess it depends on your luck meeting up with which lecturer, like I've experienced some of the best lecturers who gave us a lot of clear explanation and practices, and some of the worst who didn't even care to explain. For instance on my current semester, I am having classes with 4 up-to-par lecturers and one "she has no idea what she's doing and what she has to do"

Gotta warn you about the small campus environment there, even when it is already a 5-star. You can't enjoy campus life there, unless they have finished building the new campus which is "rumoured" to be done next year, after proposing it like years ago.

This post has been edited by lolzcalvin: May 9 2015, 12:15 AM

I don't know about you. but i only got like 3 good lecturer for my 1 years worth of studies.... Let me guess the "she" is a middle east lecturer teaching C/JAVA language or data structure...
LOL the campus they said 2013 to me back in 2012....

This post has been edited by FaTaLiTy.KiLLS: May 9 2015, 12:20 AM

I would love to go to Monash but the problem is about the Australian degree which I am not interested in. Again Nottingham isn't the best choice for IT field.

Thanks FatalityKills and lolzcalvin for bringing out the Pros and Cons.

Super confused right now!

APU itself is not a bad choice actually but I personally hated it... and why would you want a malaysia cert but not australia cert?
Pros
1. The IT standard there is high just NOT the way they access the student.
2. Student are all IT oriented. Therefore, you can learn alot from the student NOT LECTURER. Because the student have more passion and sometimes know better than lecturers. This is the benefit of famous IT school because all student interested/passionated in IT will gather there.
3. Easy pass
4. You can work there. [i worked for 2 years]

Cons
1. Bad lecturers
2. Expensive considering everything
3. I ate 2 times at cafeteria. 2 times cockroaches in food..........
4. No campus life. Go class go back sleep type....

This post has been edited by FaTaLiTy.KiLLS: May 9 2015, 12:27 AM

Is easy pass a good sign actually? @kumiko_91 says that 70% fails and she is a graduate from APU.

Cons #3 and #4 is going to kill me. #3 can be avoided but #4.. need to think about it.

well those 70% are those lazy people... but seriously is so easy to pass... i only studied the night before i get Bs and As.... tips given is 80% same with exam... if you wanna make you life hard come monash.... i have weekly assignments.... 2-4% each.... For APU is usually one time assignment.... and for some is 100% coursework... For my C programming, I copy my senior source code and add few extra implementation and I got A... [100% coursework]
I do not know about #4, because the new Campus is really almost complete can see the building itself already not just a empty land like it used to be...

Oh I see. Thanks for your time. I really appreciate it. Thank you very much! .

I will be thinking about it.

Meanwhile more feedback are welcomed

Edit: Just noticed I hijacked someone else's thread. Sorry about that.

This post has been edited by Subflick: May 9 2015, 12:54 AM

First thing is, TS is comparing APU vs Sunway only. Of course I will recommend APU among both. If he's asking in terms of general malaysian university, I would highly suggest MMU.

Second thing, I am a programmer who programs for the government since 16. I am the type who don't go to 60% of the class but scored a first class honours with best project award. I actually enjoy the "No campus life" thing, because I do not have the time in the world to be bothered about campus life. My life is go to class, then head straight back to work with the same attire.

Until now, I do get APU's invitation to bump into student's class to talk about big data / AI field because I work as a AI researcher now. I also bump into labs to talk about android development recently.

Fortunately, for me, I met a lot of experienced and good lecturers who was fully supportive when I proposed to do a big data related project for my degree thesis. They got me the materials and equipment despite the trouble to get it from the States and the expensive pricing (they are easily over RM50k to buy that workstation). They even loan me all the laptops they got on hand to support my research (about 20 of them because I need a lot of local processing power). They sponsored me amazon server to host my dataset too.

That's why I appreciate APU a lot for giving me a lot of freedom in terms of research topic and all the time in the world to help me in research. The lecturers did research together with me because they are also a learner who wants to know more about data mining / deep learning. They read research papers together with me to make my thesis works. I am the type who loves studying and researching alone.

I don't know about the fees thing. I am a scholarship holder.

I don't even eat in cafeteria because I am a cardiac disease patient. I had a very restricted diet when I was in uni because my condition worsen that time.

If I were to do all these research in university who have a lot of other activities distracting me, I wouldn't be able to do it. Most importantly, which freaking university would want to sponsor about 100k on your degree thesis which others might think I'm out of my mind? Of course, my studies in APU is very rarely heard. 99% of the students wouldn't want to go thru the path I've been.

For those who say APU is very bad, you think you wouldn't met bad lecturers in other universities? There must be bad eggs in other universities as well. University life, to me it is either you want to pass easy, and to score high proudly. It is about your initiative.

I am merely sharing my experience in APU. If you want a campus life, don't go APU. Because APU is pure boring, and you need to find your own research to have fun.

==,
i guess i have been a little bit offended on your this post,

if you consider MMU is not enough better than APU and Monash,
then why is CS/IT field in MMU is being ranked in top100 or top200 in QS Ranking last year?



and of course, price is another big issue on picking a university,
Monash do have a good reputation, but it's an overseas certificate, total price for course = 100k+++


of course, if you have money, go ahead for Monash.....

kind of agree with this, i probably could say
IT/CS field is more of a self learning and understanding courses, where usually lecturer don't really play an important role in your whole course.....

the main reason many people failed is because they are lazy, i guess it's correct to say that, or most probably many of them hate programming -__-

Haha I am actually kinda new to programming but I am very interested in ComputerStuffs/ Programming.

Btw, which uni did you study at?

currently studying in mmu melaka~

anyone know which university provides better education for computer science?

MMU， since it's IT subject are ranked in top 100 in QS last year

Hey can you link me to the CS course structure of MMU? I can't seem to find it.

This post has been edited by Subflick: May 12 2015, 10:29 PM

fixed
http://www.computerworld.com.my/resource/m...mputer-science/

><.... sorry for the wrong infor XD

MMU Computer science, Cyberjaya
http://fci.mmu.edu.my/undergrad/udgradprog2.php

MMU Information Tech, Melaka
http://fist2.mmu.edu.my/?page=78


as far as i know,
MMU cyberjaya provide more strict and tougher subjects compared to melaka,
because many failed in melaka and transfer back to melaka,
goodluck,

*personally, i feel melaka is not that tough~

I am personally not from MMU. I can only judge from word of mouth from my peers. and i have quite a number of MMU friends transfer to APU. so yea. Is my point of view. BTW is top200 at asian ranking... not the world
Besides that, APU is not being ranked because is not a complete university yet...
It has 3 names...
APIIT = asia pacific institute of IT [the legend name by working seniors]
UCTI = University College of Tech and Info [the name when i join... is just a college that time]
APU = Asia Pacific University [this the name for the new campus but not having the campus. they just use it now to sound more epic and recruit more student]

This post has been edited by FaTaLiTy.KiLLS: May 13 2015, 10:58 PM

Just to inform you - APU is already a FULL university.

UCTI was a transition name when they were a university college entity. If i am not mistaken, they have both a college and a university license - this is normal as Taylors and Sunway also has two entity licenses.

Hey Fri, do you know about Nottingham computer science. Can you tell me why Nottingham is not good for computer science because I am planning to go there.

MMU would be first choice, followed by Sunway , then APU.

See reply by FaTaLiTy.KiLLS. Yes, APU is easier than Sunway. Look at the common modules at APU, all basic/easy subjects. The technical/difficult topics are option modules at APU. Because the APU program is easier, more people go there and thus more popular.

There is also industrial attachment at Sunway, this is good for gaining experience.

If you want quality lecturers, MMU should be best, the majority of their lecturers are Phd holders with a few Msc holders.

I'm gonna agree with this. MMU stand out among all.

Which one would be the toughest to pass ?

Don't like easy to pass one, as I'm more interested in learning rather than passing



This post has been edited by MyPIA: Jul 12 2015, 12:02 AM

MMU no doubt is one of the best IT universities now in Malaysia.. APU is below than Sunway.. But i believe Sunway is catching up soon becoz IT is still relatively new as compared to their business school.. APU is really... LOL... good luck if u pick that