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MichaelJohn
post Jan 2 2016, 12:53 PM

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guys, so i kinda noticed that my motherboard (Asus Maximus VII Gene) has a M.2 slot (picture below), was wondering are there any real differences
in performance when comparing between both M.2 vs standard sata ssd? (apart from speed ofc).

If yes, i might be inclined on using that opportunity and buying a M.2 stick myself. Do you have any recommendation on the models around 120GB range?

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post Jan 3 2016, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 2 2016, 08:21 PM)
when you compared performance, you are comparing speed. i'm not sure what you wanna know if you took speed out of equation.

yes there are real performance difference if you get m.2 ssd which supports pcie 2.0 x4 and above. (it's like 2x sata ssd raid0) lesser than that there is only slight difference. again, this difference is subject to your usage and expectations.

although it's not necessary for common usage, it's better to use m.2 pcie ssd mounted on a pcie adapter with heat sink. for instance, samsung 950 pro has auto throttling mechanism, so when the chip is overheating, it will throttle to sata speed. so it's safe to use in m.2 form. to avoid throttling, use the adapter.
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I do know a bit about the speed difference for both, just like to see whether there are additional bonus/let-downs to it.

but thank you for your explanation, basically if i were to opt the m.2 ssd, it is better to mount it to the pcie adapter to avoid throttling. gotcha

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btw, is this the adapter you were talking about?


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post Jan 3 2016, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 3 2016, 11:36 AM)
ok hehe imo in m.2 form, the main downside is overheating of controller.

i use bplus m2p4a currently. it's good. apparently it supports pcie 3.0 x4 also.
- http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/M2P4A.html
- taobao link: http://world.taobao.com/item/37633868328.htm

i have posted an image about bplus m2p4a previously, https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=71040951

after all this while, there might be other options. previously this was the only one with heatsink.

edit: btw, you need some thermal pads to ensure proper contacts between the ssd and heatsink. for some sata ssds, their aluminum case is actually used as heat spreader.
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Noted and thanks

will update again when i've got all the stuff together rclxms.gif flex.gif
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post Jan 3 2016, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 3 2016, 06:58 PM)
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yeah if you looked at most hhhl versions of m.2 pcie ssds, usually they are covered with heat sinks; there is a thermal pad between the m.2 ssd and the adapter in kingston hyperx predator also.

for common usage, many said it's ok to run in bare m.2 form. however, i just don't wanna risk it.
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at first i wanted to run it using the on the board interface since it is a snug fit on the MB cause my graphics card is a dual slot version and it kinda hides it bit but better consult some experts first.

but oh well, won't risk it, guess I'll have to sacrifice my last pcie slot and kill off the dream of running two graphics card in SLi XD
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post Jan 4 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 3 2016, 11:36 AM)
ok hehe imo in m.2 form, the main downside is overheating of controller.

i use bplus m2p4a currently. it's good. apparently it supports pcie 3.0 x4 also.
- http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/M2P4A.html
- taobao link: http://world.taobao.com/item/37633868328.htm

i have posted an image about bplus m2p4a previously, https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=71040951

after all this while, there might be other options. previously this was the only one with heatsink.

edit: btw, you need some thermal pads to ensure proper contacts between the ssd and heatsink. for some sata ssds, their aluminum case is actually used as heat spreader.
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btw... sweat.gif

any m.2 models (120/128GB version) that you think you can recommend me that will go with the adapter?

Trying to find XP941s and SM951s in LYN, can't seem to find a seller doh.gif
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post Jan 4 2016, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Jan 4 2016, 04:45 PM)
uh? maybe i'm lucky. i just went to garage sales, click on hdds and ssds garage sales, and type sm951 in the quick search field, i found this: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3593258 (clawhammer sells a lot of good stuff imo. he's still very active here)

go for sm951, not xp941 (older, slower)

looking at the price, i think you should go for 256gb. 256gb is better anyway. (much closer to top speed that can be found in 512gb)
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alright thanks

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