LOL...oh now blaming others when you used the same way? Hmm..

Oh boy here we go again....then why are you here?

Not admitting anything in that sentence. Just my observation of your replies, that's all.

I guess you mean skill in learning only from you, sylar, the sole authority in interpreting Scripture. 

So Mother and Child picture you equate to pagan religions. Then for Christ resurrection from the dead, will you take from those anti-Christian sites like this http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bibliana...lianazar_33.htm? Unbelievable! I have nothing personal against my Lutheran friends. I still have Lutheran friends and my conversion is out of my conviction. You easily make up stories as if you know everything and anything about others. How about quoting factual sources for once? Your last line is pretty telling. "Most protestant probably feel that the Catholic church is in error but do not know the actual source of the church." Yup, that fleeting thing called feelings instead of facts.

I doubt uncle Yee was a Lutheran at all.  Or, he could have been to a Lutheran church but know nothings of Lutheran teaching.  Or, worst still, he just simply picked one and said he was from Lutheran.  He could have picked he was from Baptist or Methodist or Calvinism.

Funny that you posted that video from Fr Malachi Martin. He remained a Catholic, no? . No doubt there will be those within the Catholic Church infiltrated from the dark side trying to destroy the Church from within, but they will not succeed. Even among the apostles chosen by Jesus there was one Judas.

And if you would bother to search other sites other than virulently anti-Catholic sites about the singing of the Exsultet during Easter Vigil Liturgy which has the word lucifer (which means morning star)...read this:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davidmills/20...k-at-the-latin/

http://modernmedievalism.blogspot.my/2015/...nd-lucifer.html

And as for the image of the  Madonna and the Christ Child, Catholics know the difference vs that of Isis & Horus, but probably not you.

Of course I know who Lucifer is. Can't believe you are typing the above because of your ignorance of Latin and only see it from the popular English perspective. There's Lucifer and then there's 'lucifer' meaning star of the morning. 

You've got me wrong. Not wanting to fight but to point out the obvious. Our faithful visitors sylar and shioks wants to show their union with the early Protestant founders like Luther, but their own teachings contradict even those of Luther, Calvin, etc. With regards to Catholics and Lutherans, we aren't hiding the differences, but hoped that communion can be achieved amongst us if both sides understand each other's actual teachings minus the polemics.

Lucifer can mean both way in Latin as per below link.  The question is why would a Pope knowing the controversy surrounding the word chose to use the word in ceremony.  Kind of odd.

http://www.gotquestions.org/morning-star.html

Question: "Why are both Jesus and Satan referred to as the morning star?"

Answer: The first reference to the morning star as an individual is in Isaiah 14:12: “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!” (NIV). The KJV and NKJV both translate “morning star” as “Lucifer, son of the morning.” It is clear from the rest of the passage that Isaiah is referring to Satan’s fall from heaven (Luke 10:18). So in this case, the morning star refers to Satan. In Revelation 22:16, Jesus unmistakably identifies Himself as the morning star. Why are both Jesus and Satan described as the “morning star”?

It is interesting to note that the concept of the “morning star” is not the only concept that is applied to both Jesus and Satan. In Revelation 5:5, Jesus is referred to as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. In 1 Peter 5:8, Satan is compared to a lion, seeking someone to devour. The point is this, both Jesus and Satan, to a certain extent, have similarities to lions. Jesus is similar to a lion in that He is the King, He is royal and majestic. Satan is similar to a lion in that he seeks to devour other creatures. That is where the similarities between Jesus, Satan, and lions end, however. Jesus and Satan are like lions in very different ways.

The idea of a “bright morning star” is a star that outshines all the others. Satan, as perhaps the most beautiful creation of God, probably the most powerful of all the angels, was a bright morning star. Jesus, as God incarnate, the Lord of the universe, is THE bright and morning star. Jesus is the most holy and powerful “light” in all the universe. So, while both Jesus and Satan can be described as “bright morning stars,” in no sense is this equating Jesus and Satan. Satan is a created being. His light only exists to the extent that God created it. Jesus is the light of the world (John 9:5). Only Jesus’ light is self-existent. Satan may be a bright morning star, but he is only a poor imitation of the one true bright morning star, Jesus Christ, the light of the world.

The bolded part already shows you don't agree with ALL their teachings, just some. Enough said.

I still hold to no salvation outside the Church. So what's the standpoint that was changed?

Oh dear...seems like bad comprehension. You think you follow the words of God, but I say that you are following what you think are the words of God.

Resolving is an ongoing process yo....what's so difficult to understand about that? Sheesh...

I never equate the pope with Christ. The Pope is the Vicar of Christ but not Christ, just like an ambassador is the representative of so and so nation. If the Pope is Christ why would the Pope need to go for confession? Again, what's so difficult to understand about that? Sheesh...

I guess this is what sylar111 has been talking about:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Vaticanus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Alexandrinus

Some comments on NIV bible:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NIV/worship.htm
        NIV Translators Are Ok with Worshipping Satan; But Not Jesus!

By David J. Stewart

    America is dying for men of God today. Preachers are dime-a-dozen; but few men truly walk with the God of the Bible. One of the biggest problems is that Satan has duped preachers out of their Bible, under the pretense of a "new" and "improved" bible, which is no Bible at all. The New International Bible (NIV) is by far the most popular Bible today; yet, it is saturated with damnable heresies.

    STRONG'S EXHAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE OF THE BIBLE shows that the SAME Greek word is used for the word "worship" in Matthew 8:2 and 20:20, as in Revelation 13:12,15 and 14:11. Yet, deceitfully, the translators of the NIV used the word "bowed" in Matthew 8:2 and 20:20; BUT kept the word "worship" to refer to Satan in Revelation 13:12,15 and 14:11.

    So the NIV translators don't have a problem with anyone worshipping Satan (i.e., the Beast); they only have a problem with someone WORSHIPPING JESUS. What do you expect from homosexual translators? Check for yourself and you'll learn that the same Greek word for worship, proskuneo, is used in both Matthew 8:2 and Matthew 20:20, as in Revelation 13:12,15 and Revelation 14:11. So why did the NIV translators dishonestly remove all New Testament references to anyone WORSHIPPING the Lord Jesus Christ?

    In fact, the NIV removes the name above every other name (Philippians 2:9,10), Jesus, in 38 places. Why would any Bible translator remove the name of "Jesus" from the Word of God in 38 places? It is obvious to me that the people who produced the NIV were not Christians in any sense of the word. They are heretics.

    What Bible are you using my friend? I hope you'll use the King James Bible (and not the "New" King James Bible, because it is also corrupt). No other Bible today uplifts the name of Jesus, His deity, and the Godhead as does the precious King James Bible.
    

    Butchering the Bible

    So what's wrong with the NIV?  In a word... EVERYTHING! Do you have any idea how many things were eviscerated (disemboweled) from the Bible by the NIV authors? Hundreds of words, phrases, and even entire Bible verses were removed from the Word of God by the NIV butchers.

    Whereas the King James Bible mentions the "Godhead" three times, the NIV has completely removed the word. You won't find the word "propitiation" in the NIV either. In fact, all of the following words have been removed from the Bible by the NIV butchers: regeneration, mercyseat, Calvary, remission, Jehovah, immutable, omnipotent, Comforter, Holy Ghost, Messiah, quickened, infallible, et cetera.

    One of the most blasphemous omissions in the NIV is in John 3:16 where Jesus is no longer proclaimed as the "only BEGOTTEN Son of God." Yes, that's right, the NIV butchers removed the word "begotten" from John 3:16. How in the name of truth and justice could any professed Christian use the New International Version? Yet, it's the most popular bible version sold on the market today. If I had a billion dollars, I'd make an offer to churches all across America. I'd exchange brand new King James Bibles for their perverted NIVs. I'd give them new Bibles for their old corrupt bibles. They would first have to give me their NIVs so I could BURN THEM! I'd burn every NIV I could find.

    That's not all that the wicked NIV deceivers took out of the Bible. The word "sodomite" is completely gone, as are the words: fornication, trucebreakers, winebibbers, carnal, slothful, unthankful, effeminate, backbiting, vanity, lasciviousness, whoredom, devils, Lucifer, damnation, brimstone, and the bottomless pit. I'm not kidding, go check for yourself! All these words in the King James Bible have been stricken from the New International Version. We ought to call it the H.I.V., because it's more deadly than the AIDS virus. 2nd Timothy 2:15 instructs each believer to "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." Well, the NIV also removes the word "study" from this verse.

    To no surprise, Paul's admonition against "science falsely so called" in 1st Timothy 6:20 is gone too, and there are no longer any fables to avoid. Of the 54 times "hell" is mentioned in the King James Bible, the NIV reduces it down to 14 times. The King James Bible states in 1st Timothy 3:16 that "GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH"; but the NIV waters it down to... he was revealed in a body. In Philippians 2:6 of the NIV Jesus is no longer EQUAL with God; but rather, could not grasp equality with God. The NIV is Wicked! Vile! Blasphemy! Why would anyone use the NIV?
    

    The Moody Broadcasting Network is Wrong!

    According to the 1928 DOCTRINAL STATEMENT by the MOODY BIBLE INSTITUTE...

        The Bible is without error in all it affirms in the original autographs and is the only authoritative guide for faith and practice and as such must not be supplanted by any other fields of human learning. [emphasis added]

        SOURCE: MBI—Moody Broadcasting Network: Doctrinal Statement

    Only in the original autographs? That is absurd! The New Testament contains hundreds of quotes from COPIES of Old Testament Scriptures. The writers of the New Testament didn't have any of the original Old Testament autographs to copy from. They copied from copies of the autographs. We read in 2nd Timothy 3:15 concerning Timothy, "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." The only Scriptures which Timothy had, or anyone else at that time, were COPIES of the original manuscripts.

    To claim that God's Word is only "without error" in the original autographs is to boldly and clearly claim that we do not have an inerrant Bible today, that God has not preserved His Word as He promised in Psalm 12:6-7, and that Christians today are at the mercy of the intelligentsia to tell us which of the hundreds of Bibles on the market are God's Word.  Only an ignorant or dishonest theologian would tell people to do their best to sort through the myriad of bibles on the market today, in hopes of finding God's Word.

        Did God Only Inspire the Original Autographs of the Bible?

    Perhaps you ask, "Why can't we just go look at the Greek manuscripts of the Bible?" Unfortunately, in the 19th century "scholars" claimed to have found "new" and "improved" Greek manuscripts from Alexandria, Egypt. These allegedly more reliable texts were used by two heretics, Westcott and Hort, to form the basis of nearly every corrupt bible being published today. In fact, the New World Translation which the Jehovah's Witnesses use has it's origin in the exact SAME Greek of Westcott and Hort as does the New International Version.

    Even the New King James Bible is rooted in the work of Westcott and Hort, sharing all of the same perversions as are found in the NIV. Only the King James Bible has escaped the butchers of God's Word, which was completed in 1611.

    We DO have God's preserved Word today, just as He promised in Psalm 12:6-7...

        "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

    God has promised to PRESERVE His Word unto all generations. Jesus clearly stated in Matthew 5:18, "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." A "jot" and a "tittle" are the smallest grammatical marks in the Greek language. How foolish it is for anyone to claim that God's perfect Word doesn't exist today. According to Moody Bible Institute we don't have a reliable Bible, because we have no original autographs today.

    Archaeologists have discovered over 5,000 ancient Bible writings in various primitive forms, throughout the Holy Land. Some are complete, most just fragments. There is simply no way of knowing for sure if these are originals or not. The Alexandrian texts from Egypt are certainly corrupt, and unreliable; yet everyone using an NIV is being brainwashed by them.

    Also, consider that the Bible Itself is a compilation of 66 separate Books. By the time the Word of God was completed around 96 A.D., it was largely a compilation of copies. There were no original autographs of the Old Testament.
    

    Conclusion

    Get a King James Bible!

    Something is very wrong with a bible, i.e., the NIV, that removes every mention of the word "Godhead." Something is very wrong with a bible that refuses to allow people to WORSHIP Jesus Christ; but it's ok to worship the Beast of Revelation and the Image of the Beast. The New International Version is a piece of garbage! If I had my way, I'd burn every NIV in existence, and replace them with King James Bibles.

    Say what you will about the King James Bible—there is no other Bible today that uplifts the name of Jesus, promotes His deity, magnifies His majesty, worships His omnipotence, and proclaims His LITERAL blood sacrifice for our sins—than the precious King James Bible!
Some other articles, which are good read:

https://isthatinthebible.wordpress.com/arti...al-version-niv/

http://www.christianpost.com/news/report-7...iv-bible-50191/

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/KJV/t...sus-the-niv.htm

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/s...on-battles.html

http://christianitybeliefs.org/the-most-ac...-and-deception/
I guess the most accurate Bible would be from the Dead Sea Scrolls especially book of Isaiah.  If possible, read the original manuscripts (Greek and etc), understand the cultures and traditions in the era, and with the guide of Holy Spirit.

But, I guess Uncle Yee is using Catholic Bible and not related to NIV, KJV, NKJ and other versions.  So make no difference.

I care. Its not my intention to expose such activities.

Let other people do la..

I said Freemasonry is to be on a separate thread and not on this Catholic thread. Is that difficult to comprehend? Good pope or bad pope, the papacy will still be there, for Christ has given Peter and his successors the power to bind and loose until the end of time. Probably you don't believe the promise of Christ.

Go ahead and try to depose him if you hate him so much. However the papacy will remain because Christ has given the power to bind and loose until the end of time.

You can't even define what is the real church and you have some fantasies of persecution of the real church.