It's pretty funny that Peter can be considered by the Catholic Church as the first pope when the fact was that he was not even based in Rome at any phrase of his life.

Anyway. Your assumption here is that the catholic church is the Church which God has founded. What if this is not the case. What if the catholic church is a synagogue of Satan?

Anyway. Good job in evading the hard questions as per usual pointed out by shoiks.

It's ok not to question the organization even if there are allegations that the higher ups are committing hideous crime. After all, since God is "preserving" this church, we can turn a blind eye to all of the evil deads committed by the higher ups. I guess that's the attitude that you are showing when it comes to the truth then.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Jun 15 2016, 05:18 PM

Just a wild guess, is it because Constantine made Christianity the official religion and Peter as the first POPE, thus, the increased of number of Christianity? Being a "Christian" during the period could enjoy many benefits.

This is somewhat similar in M'sia where some become Muslim and, in turn Bumiputra, to get contracts and other perks. Right, uncle yeeck?

Well, jokes aside.
You have to follow the version that constantine followed otherwise you will be branded as a heretic.

You are again confused between individual sins and the official organisation as a whole. You said Peter was not even based in Rome at any phase of his life? What is your source for that? If you can ask 'what if the Catholic Church is a synagogue of Satan', similarly anyone can ask what if your church is a synagogue of Satan? I'll repeat again, allege whatever you want, but at least show some proof.

So those who followed Christianity before Constantine made it official must have been fools, eh?

And what are you trying to say? That you don't agree with the decisions of the Council of Nicea? Or you prefer Arius' teachings? LOL.

This post has been edited by yeeck: Jun 15 2016, 11:36 PM

35Jesus heard that they had cast him out: and when he had found him, he said to him: Dost thou believe in the Son of God? 36He answered, and said: Who is he, Lord, that I may believe in him? 37And Jesus said to him: Thou hast both seen him; and it is he that talketh with thee. 38And he said: I believe, Lord. And falling down, he adored him. 39And Jesus said: For judgment I am come into this world; that they who see not, may see; and they who see, may become blind. 40And some of the Pharisees, who were with him, heard: and they said unto him: Are we also blind? 41Jesus said to them: If you were blind, you should not have sin: but now you say: We see. Your sin remaineth.

John 9:35-41

Am a Roman Catholic but I don't read the bible. I do not know what to say during prayers beside my own words.

But what is happening to the world in these few days made me feel insecure and afraid

There is nothing wrong with using your own words for prayers. No hard and fast rules when it comes to praying, just do it with a open heart and present your thanksgiving and requests to God. If you know one or two basic prayers like the Lord's prayer or the rosary, that would also be of great help.

Additionally, if you really feel the need, do try to read the Bible. Or, if you have the time, attend Mass, on Sunday's and also during the weekdays, liturgy of the word is part of Mass, there scripture will be read out for you to hear and listen. If you are not sure of what you read / hear, i suggest you ask questions or better yet, try going for Bible study classes. Your local Church should run at least one or two during the year.

and why do u feel any reason to feel insecure and afraid?

God bless!

This post has been edited by khool: Jun 16 2016, 02:57 PM

I have had my bible study classes before I got baptised. Sad to say, I have been a devout follower.

Well, life is so fragile. Anyone of us can go anytime. We won't even know what will happen to us after death.

A friend told me that if we have the faith, we are to be with God after our time on Earth is over. It's that simple. But for some reasons, I'm having doubts

This post has been edited by ChaNzy: Jun 16 2016, 06:54 PM

If you are Catholic, you should have doubt.

why so?

You need to Work for your salvation lar.

Peter was in Rome? That's a new revelation.

Luke 18:11 "The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other people--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector."

Luke 20:46-47 ""Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. These men will be punished most severely."

New to you, probably.

Of course anyone can go anytime. Yes, we do know what will happen to us. Ever heard of the 4 last things? There's death, judgement, and ultimately heaven or hell. Nothing to worry about if you frequent the sacraments and strive to be in the state of grace, always praying for the grace of final perseverance. Christ has instituted the sacraments which is given only through the Church but alas, many choose not to avail themselves of these easy means of grace.

This post has been edited by yeeck: Jun 17 2016, 01:41 AM

Ignore that troll, what he means is his Protestant religion taught him to only lay back, say he has faith, and nothing else needed.

You are referring to your RCIA classes? The classes arejust the beginning of your life in Christ. Catholics are strongly encouraged to read the Bible and attend Bible study classes throughout their life, in order to strengthen their faith and knowledge in Christ. In addition, please do attend Mass regularly, especially weekend Masses to listen to the word of God and also to receive Holy Communion. It is quite important as Christ has already said that His flesh is true food and His blood is true drink. It is said that if one were to attend Mass regularly, one would basically hear the entire Bible being read to them and also explained through the priest's homily.

As bro Yeeck has already mentioned, keep yourself in a constant state of grace; adhere to the 7 sacraments and you cannot go wrong. Take the verse from Matthew, 17:20


So truly, there is no need to doubt or fear anything. Remember, no matter what happens in this world, no matter who our leaders are; Jesus, the Son of God, will always be the King of Kings and Lord of Lords and He has dominion over all of creation.

Isaiah 41:10


Amen and the Lord be with you!

LOL! Are you telling me Catholic now no need to religiously work on their salvation as you have been preached earlier?