no carb for pre workout. You will perform poorly. No pump man

ahh yesss...was surprise also..you only need 70g or protein..
you must be really ecto man...

well i think almost on average i see also...120 to 150g per day...

Usually after workout, I'll take 5 egg whites, 1 x beef/chicken breast/fish, tuna with 2 slices of whole meal bread, 250ml milk. I hope it's enough.

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Added on March 20, 2009, 8:33 pm

According to a friend of mine, he says that my ideal post workout protein is around 60gram. Just post workout.

what workout do you do 6am in the morning. If it's weight, maybe can take white bread. White bread digest quite fast. Or even better, glucose if you want fast energy. Or you could wake on 5 am to eat some banana or wholegrain bread + whey 

I think it should be put this way,

Whole day protein intake should make up 1g/1lb (2.2lb = 1 kg, do your maths! *correct me*)

As supposed to Xmt's, meaning if I weight 88kg then I shd take 60+ g of protein after workout?!

I think around 30-45g is sufficient for instant consumption. Provided there is a next meal containing protein after an hour or two?

Correct me.

The other day I whack 15 eggs a day, I think 10 eggs for me is enough. 

5 for breakfast, 5 for pre-workout, 5 for dinner (no post workout, because after working out immediately I head back home to prepare my meal).

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Added on March 22, 2009, 11:18 pm
Guise,

I need some opinion here. I've just created a new diet plan, only 4 or 5 meals per day. If I workout at 7pm, there will be 5 meals, otherwise just 4.

I always have my dinner before 7pm. But if I finish workout at 10pm, if I take egg whites + milk, will they make me fat? It's like eating after 7pm and before going to bed.

I'm not like you guise, I'm currently cutting down and losing fat. If you guise are thin, nothing to worry about, but I'm not sure whether should I eat egg whites or not?

I don't want to take whey protein because I want to be small now, not big. I will only take whey protein when I've reached my ideal weight and losing all the fats. I don't want to be a fat ass with huge muscles, freaking turn off.    So, whey protein skip.
My goal....

178cm at 80kg, waist 30" - 31", then lose all the fats, be as lean as possible. If I'm able to achieve bodyfat 13 - 15%, I'm happy enough. I know I can do it by somewhere end of may (cut down to 80kg), but the fats probably take sometime, a year or longer.

I just want to be at 80kg, lose fats, 6 packs is not necessary, and be fit. Once I achieved this, then only I will decide from there whether to continue bodybuilding or not. That is the time where I will start to take proper supplements and etc. Step by step, one goal at a time.

So let say if by end of may I'm at 80kg, so it takes me 5 months to reduce 23kg. Then the remaining 7 months is the time where I kill those fats. At this point, I need to keep an eye closely at my weight. Must be in between 75kg - 80kg.

haha again... =.= yolks removed...
well, i shall not mention anything coz i think pizzaboy said already. hahah...
just eat those yolks... =.=

Can someone rate how is my pre-workout diet and post's?

PRE: Hydroxycut Hardcore Pro Series shake (16oz)
POST: Whey Protein shake (6oz)

Do i have to add more like oats intake before and after work outs? Thanks masters