I want to squeeze out everything with AIR cooling first. So that we level the playing field here, if I bench here I shouldn't use the Mach 2 straight away - quite unfair actually. So I try on air first, then once reach limit in 2 week, put under the Mach 2 GT.

lazo: Thats the evaporator head that connects to your PC and cool it to about -30C! So dun laugh at that table lamp....lol.

It's the thing that is used to cool down the processor la...
That's the evaporator that should be on top of the processor...

gonna need to mod the casing to fit it.

Well not really mod alot, you just need a small hole at the bottom of the case. Simple hole cut only.....hhehhehe

That is still called as "mod" eventhough it just need some small cut...

This cooling device is superb. and costing you a bomb to get it.I think this is not worthy to get such an expensive cooling device on our system.An extreme water cooling is already good enough for that.

this device performs damm well compare to wc kit...

This post has been edited by sup3rfly: Oct 10 2006, 08:12 AM

No, that's not 100% correct...

Think, if you want to go for 5GHz, can you go with just an extreme watercooling system?

No, i don't think so...

This thing is considered good and the price is okay with the performance...

Even if u're thinking of getting an extreme watercooling components, there's no way you can achieve 0 degrees celcius cooling...

And to add up, extreme watercooling components is quite expensive, just think about an extreme waterblock, the cheapest i could find is RM300 what about the other thing? Radiator? Pump? Reservoir?

Even for metalzone's beginners watercooling setup is already RM450...

What about an extreme watercooling components?

There's no doubt it can reach RM1000...

And that's for watercooling, the cooling that can't even go until 0 degrees celcius...

Add another RM500 that means: RM1500 for an extreme fridge cooling like the vapochill cooling system...

This is the easiest way to show it:

Exteme Watercooling: RM1000 - how low can it go? i don't think it can even go lower than 20 degrees celcius

Freezer Cooling [Vapochill for example]: RM1500 - minimum is -40 degrees celcius... [It's below freezing temperature, much cooler than the the fridge in you're kitchen.... ]

So, which one would u prefer?

Think!!!

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Oct 10 2006, 08:57 AM

An extreme watercooling kit can never reach -60C on the evap or -20C on load, can it? lol If can't then it is not comparable.

This post has been edited by kcnyc: Oct 10 2006, 09:20 AM

Yerp, this is what i'm stressing about...

I don't think an extreme watercooling setup can even reach a lower temperature than 15 degrees celcius....

Hey wait, is there any watercooling setup that can reach 15 degrees celcius?

I don't think so...

Wah yaya...I also agree after i think twice. But if the proc area too cold will it affect the stabality or harm it?I don't think the proc are designed to run under such cold temperature right?

Look at my signature.......that processor is an Intel 660 clocked at 5GHz.

This thread makes me want to snap on my Mach 2 GT to my X6800. lol


This post has been edited by kcnyc: Oct 11 2006, 03:04 PM

Extreme cooling can make so extreme result in overclcoking.When is your X6800 going to build up?

Going to make a run soon... But I am expecting about 4.6GHz - 4.7GHz out of my X6800 with the Prometeia.

Since u're using the Prometeia, don't you think you wanna sell that Vapochill cooling system?

Hey Kc, comparing both Prometeia and the Vapochill, which one is better in Phase Change cooling?

Both is good, but Prometeia has a better insulation system where the whole CPU back and front is sealed in a hermetic chamber so moisture can't get in. No moisture, no condensation, no water in the socket. But it is a little harder to setup compared to the Vapochill. With the Vapochill you need to insulate the socket with dielectric grease. It is a messy affair, your CPU is covered in this slimy goop. And one thing about the motherboard manufacturers nowadays, when they see traces of dielectric grease in your board's socket - your warranty is VOID!

In terms of cooling, the Vapochill seems to be able to cool more than 200Ws of heat - about 210W. But the temps are not as cold - therefore we say it can hold a load of 210W. The Prometeia on the other hand can only hold 200Ws of heat, but it does it at a colder temp - a few celcius lower. So pick your poison.....

I prefer the Prometeia because it is a tad safer to run 24/7 with their hermetic chamber CPU kit. You don't have be worrying about water in the socket. But they use this thing called SEAL STRING to seal the socket - which cannot be reusable. You replace once you change your CPU. But they are cheap......

And also, 200W is alot of heat and not many CPU can even put out that much heat when overclocked. So I will pick the Prommy over the Vapo just because 200W is not even reachable - I would rather get a few celcius colder.

I have 2 Prommys. I don't mind selling one of them. PM or add me to MSN Messenger, we can talk.

U can possibly get that kind of temp with Extreme watercooling under a/c.

You must be kidding me. I don't think it will even reach the 0C let alone negative temps. And how would frozen water in your tubes sound? LOL

What i mean was under idle, not under load. With a/c on we can possibly get lower temps where the rad and the pump should be colder and the water temp should be lower as well. Maybe we can get a decrease in temp around 5c to 10c ?

I get what you mean, with turning up the AC, but how can it be comparable to phase change? And wait, what kind of AC are you using? lol Most AC units will get air temps to 15C max, and you have to transfer that cool temps to the water inside the loop. I don't think you can get a 100% transfer like that dude. And moreover, your CPU and videocard will heat the water up. 15C is quite hard to get, especially in Malaysia temps.