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TSpricetag
post Feb 10 2015, 12:07 PM, updated 11y ago

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Thanks for all responses.

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koaydarren
post Feb 10 2015, 04:53 PM

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Sorry may i know in what field? haha..
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post Feb 10 2015, 05:46 PM

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Well, they have to start somewhere right?
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post Feb 11 2015, 12:48 PM

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Some universities require lecturer to have experience as co-supervisor prior to becoming a main. The first few batches are where the supervisors will be experimenting we will follow first how we were trained before and then modify accordingly. So, if your potential supervisor graduated from a good school, then chances are u will be ok.
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post Feb 11 2015, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(koaydarren @ Feb 10 2015, 04:53 PM)
Sorry may i know in what field? haha..
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TSpricetag
post Feb 11 2015, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(HouYi @ Feb 10 2015, 05:46 PM)
Well, they have to start somewhere right?
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I understand. I have bad experience with new lecturer as my FYP supervisor..
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post Feb 11 2015, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(gobie2920 @ Feb 11 2015, 12:48 PM)
Some universities require lecturer to have experience as co-supervisor prior to becoming a main. The first few batches are where the supervisors will be experimenting  we will follow first how we were trained before and then modify accordingly. So, if your potential supervisor graduated from a good school, then chances are u will be ok.
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Any ways to check whether he is of high quality? Browsing through goggle, cnt find his journal. Except the phD thesis, won undergraduate best student price, and get scholarship to study overseas. Maybe he is too new that's why not much information?
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post Feb 13 2015, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(pricetag @ Feb 10 2015, 12:07 PM)
Hi.

Anyone having experience of having a new lecturer as supervisor?
Currently i came across a vacancy as RA (who has the intention to continue master study) from a local university website. I applied the vacancy, and at the same day, the lecturer called me. The shocked thing is that she asking me whether i want to go phD with her, as my result is in the first class range.

FYI, the main purpose i apply the RA position is to learn knowledge and technique for lab setting, and perhaps continue study after i master the skill.

Now i am like tergantung at somewhere else. I really want be a lecturer.. Dont know should i follow this lecturer or not. She is too new, graduated last year, from London.

Any one can share some of your thoughts here? Thanks a lot.
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Supervisor and research student have close relationship. Junior supervisor have fresh memory of PhD and senior supervisor may be too busy or reduced passion in supervision. No perpect lover and therefore no perfect supervisor also.

Research is a difficult process. Once you lose confidence on your potential sifu, how can you work well with her. You start to compare with working classmate. Eventually, it is no good for both.

You ask yourself whether you want to establish long term relationship with this scientist or not. If your answer is positive, please go ahead. If it is negative, why not look for somebody you can build trust.

Learn to build trust and the relatiinship will work.

Good luck.

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post Feb 18 2015, 10:47 AM

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Talk to lots of other lecturers who are related to your research.
Then you'll be able to decide & put your trust on.
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post Feb 23 2015, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(pricetag @ Feb 11 2015, 07:13 PM)
Any ways to check whether he is of high quality? Browsing through goggle, cnt find his journal. Except the phD thesis, won undergraduate best student price, and get scholarship to study overseas. Maybe he is too new that's why not much information?
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Yup, he must be very new. Checking his graduating university would give you some indication. Newly graduated lecturer is not expected to have long list. Some even published their postgrad works a few years after their graduation. I published only abstracts before my graduation, but now averaged about 20-30 publications/year, with total of 303 peer reviewed since graduated in 2008.
One sure way to see you click is to see how he communicate with you. If it's prompt, informative and helpful, then that would indicate his interest in supervision.
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post Feb 25 2015, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(gobie2920 @ Feb 23 2015, 01:35 PM)
Yup, he must be very new. Checking his graduating university would give you some indication. Newly graduated lecturer is not expected to have long list. Some even published their postgrad works a few years after their graduation. I published only abstracts before my graduation, but now averaged about 20-30 publications/year, with total of 303 peer reviewed since graduated in 2008.
One sure way to see you click is to see how he communicate with you. If it's prompt, informative and helpful, then that would indicate his interest in supervision.
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post Feb 27 2015, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(pricetag @ Feb 25 2015, 09:07 PsM)
That research already has a grant since one year ago. Till now still no students want to do that research. May i know,  is research title important for one's future in lecturing line? is getting a phD more important or start with master with a tough title which need to struggle a lot yet can learn quite a lot  more important?
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Joining research project with existing funding would means that your project will benefit from stable financing (research is not cheap), full support from supervisor, and working from already robust proposal.
But you will be pressed for deadline as grant would have milestones to catch up.
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post Apr 7 2015, 02:33 PM

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my previous experience with a newly graduated lecturer as my SV is a huge headache! and some of my colleagues in the same lab have the same bad experiences.
I cant assume every newly-grad lecturers are the same but think twice, perhaps talk to some more senior lecturers before you decide
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post Apr 14 2015, 01:01 PM

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Any reputable university will usually impose certain restrictions as to who is allowed to supervise. The general rule is a minimum of 2 years tenure is required for one to become a main supervisor.
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post May 20 2015, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(ckeong89 @ Apr 7 2015, 02:33 PM)
my previous experience with a newly graduated lecturer as my SV is a huge headache! and some of my colleagues in the same lab have the same bad experiences.
I cant assume every newly-grad lecturers are the same but think twice, perhaps talk to some more senior lecturers before you decide
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I already feeling damn headache now rclxub.gif
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post May 20 2015, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Apr 14 2015, 01:01 PM)
Any reputable university will usually impose certain restrictions as to who is allowed to supervise. The general rule is a minimum of 2 years tenure is required for one to become a main supervisor.
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Yes there are other co-sv but... icon_question.gif
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post May 20 2015, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(pricetag @ May 20 2015, 07:57 PM)
I already feeling damn headache now  rclxub.gif
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try to have a nice discussion with him/her, or the best way, find an experienced one.

my previous sv had 5 students (2 phd, 3 master). now only left one master student continuing with him. others either find a new one or quit directly
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QUOTE(pricetag @ May 20 2015, 07:57 PM)
I already feeling damn headache now  rclxub.gif
QUOTE(pricetag @ May 20 2015, 07:59 PM)
Yes there are other co-sv but...  icon_question.gif
I presumed that you have started the PhD program.

Since you belong to the first generation of PhD students, you need set up the equipment and apparatus you’ll need to acquire data. Lacking the support of an established group, you and your fellow colleagues will probably spend a lot of energy in building equipment, designing research methods, constructing new empirical models, learning how to use curve-fitting tools, or even writing new programming codes in Mathematica, C#, Anduino. icon_idea.gif

What is your real concern?
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post Jun 7 2015, 04:47 PM

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My experience is try to get a senior academics as your main supervisor. Co-SV can be from a junior lecturer
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post Jun 7 2015, 05:06 PM

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Sorry but is it common to have co-supervisors? I am interested in taking a PhD and always assumed we'd only have one supervisor.

Wouldn't it be offensive to have a co-supervisor as if the first one isn't qualified enough.

Advice?

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