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9kingsir
post Jun 22 2015, 04:06 AM

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ohmmmmmm.......


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post Jun 22 2015, 04:09 AM

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wan get rich in forex?

simple.. go bank borrow 10 million usd.. then buy usd at 3.4.. no need trade.. waittill go up 3.75...wala.. u earn few million ..

haha
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post Jun 22 2015, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(9kingsir @ Jun 22 2015, 04:09 AM)
wan get rich in forex?

simple.. go bank borrow 10 million usd.. then buy usd at 3.4..  no need trade.. waittill go up 3.75...wala.. u earn few million ..

haha
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Doesn't make sense, if drop then die lor
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post Jun 22 2015, 08:43 AM

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if 10mil, it is better if you go and buy physical gold. lol
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post Jun 22 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(poks @ Jun 22 2015, 08:43 AM)
if 10mil, it is better if you go and buy physical gold. lol
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The spread for physical gold is too big for trading. You can do spot gold trading but definitely hard to make money with physical gold.
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post Jun 22 2015, 09:13 AM

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With a 10 Million, I would put in the bonds or blue chip stock which pay good dividends.
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post Jun 22 2015, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(carrer @ Jun 22 2015, 09:13 AM)
With a 10 Million, I would put in the bonds or blue chip stock which pay good dividends.
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bond and blue chip pay to 1mdb
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post Jun 22 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(9kingsir @ Jun 22 2015, 03:07 PM)
bond and blue chip pay to 1mdb
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I don't get you. You mean buying 1MDB bond?
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post Jun 22 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(carrer @ Jun 22 2015, 04:17 PM)
I don't get you. You mean buying 1MDB bond?
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You buy that bond belong to government, and government take your money go pay 1MDB debts.


That's what he mean actually
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post Jun 22 2015, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jun 22 2015, 04:29 PM)
You buy that bond belong to government, and government take your money go pay 1MDB debts.
That's what he mean actually
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Don't buy Malaysian bonds. Buy US, UK, Singapore, etc.
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post Jun 22 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(carrer @ Jun 22 2015, 04:54 PM)
Don't buy Malaysian bonds. Buy US, UK, Singapore, etc.
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Duno.. So far I haven't reach that stage yet. Still slowly moving. U.S. 30y bonds kah? Haha
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post Jun 22 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jun 22 2015, 06:51 PM)
Duno.. So far I haven't reach that stage yet. Still slowly moving. U.S. 30y bonds kah? Haha
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Yep. 2,5,10-year etc.
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post Jun 22 2015, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(carrer @ Jun 22 2015, 08:02 PM)
Yep. 2,5,10-year etc.
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Anyhow still prefer U.S. side, cause in 10y time we don't know what will happen.
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Most forex robot are risky and useless due to most of them are using martingale system. What do you guys think? I think they are mostly scam and just selling their so called robot to naïve consumers.

For those who don't understand.
-A Martingale System is a method of gambling where you double your bet each time you lose. Many EAs and some other forex trading systems use this method.

Imagine that you bet 1 dollar on a coin coming up heads. If you lose, you bet 2 dollars the next time. If you lose again, you bet 4 dollars. If you win that time, you win 4 dollars and have lost 3 dollars, so you come out 1 dollar ahead.-


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post Jun 23 2015, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 23 2015, 06:30 PM)
Most forex robot are risky and useless due to most of them are using martingale system. What do you guys think? I think they are mostly scam and just selling their so called robot to naïve consumers.

For those who don't understand. 
-A Martingale System is a method of gambling where you double your bet each time you lose. Many EAs and some other forex trading systems use this method.

Imagine that you bet 1 dollar on a coin coming up heads. If you lose, you bet 2 dollars the next time. If you lose again, you bet 4 dollars. If you win that time, you win 4 dollars and have lost 3 dollars, so you come out 1 dollar ahead.-
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so u joined those forex? or you got scammed too?
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QUOTE(Zanmai0146 @ Jun 23 2015, 06:32 PM)
so u joined those forex? or you got scammed too?
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nope just food for thought. ^__^ currently exploring trading methods in forex. ^^
I don't think forex is a scam rather the so called brokers, and ridiculous people that turn it into some mlm platform that caused forex to have a bad name.
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 23 2015, 06:30 PM)
Most forex robot are risky and useless due to most of them are using martingale system. What do you guys think? I think they are mostly scam and just selling their so called robot to naïve consumers.

For those who don't understand. 
-A Martingale System is a method of gambling where you double your bet each time you lose. Many EAs and some other forex trading systems use this method.

Imagine that you bet 1 dollar on a coin coming up heads. If you lose, you bet 2 dollars the next time. If you lose again, you bet 4 dollars. If you win that time, you win 4 dollars and have lost 3 dollars, so you come out 1 dollar ahead.-
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A robot which is based on martingale strategy is very risky. There are profitable robots, but people will not sell them. I have created many robots too, but so far, I have only one which is genuinely profitable, but nothing beats manual trading, so I still manually trade.

By the way, robot results can be easily manipulated by curve fittings.
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QUOTE(carrer @ Jun 23 2015, 08:30 PM)
A robot which is based on martingale strategy is very risky. There are profitable robots, but people will not sell them. I have created many robots too, but so far, I have only one which is genuinely profitable, but nothing beats manual trading, so I still manually trade.

By the way, robot results can be easily manipulated by curve fittings.
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whoa nice~! biggrin.gif wonder what u mean by curve fittings? still learning here ^^
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post Jun 24 2015, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 23 2015, 11:13 PM)
whoa nice~! biggrin.gif wonder what u mean by curve fittings? still learning here ^^
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For example you have a MA crossover system. 50-200 EMA crossover. You try it on EURUSD from 2013-2014, and it is not profitable. You will then optimise (find the best combination) on that period and let's say you found that 59-189 EMA crossover to be profitable. This is called curve fitting, because when you use it on 2013-2014, it's profitable, but there is no certainty that it will work in 2015.
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 23 2015, 06:42 PM)
nope just food for thought. ^__^ currently exploring trading methods in forex. ^^
I don't think forex is a scam rather the so called brokers, and ridiculous people that turn it into some mlm platform that caused forex to have a bad name.
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Agree with u too. Forex is legal. Just the broker are the scammer

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